Do people not realize how terrible the GameCube was?

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="jeffwulf"]It also had 3 GOTY out of the 5 years it was released.Panzer_Zwei

Even though the gamecube was lack luster due to lack of 3rd party support and long droughts its ironic how you mention this. I mean seeing as how every console Sega made after the Genesis eventually had a gaming drought because they were so quickly discontinued. Gamecube was my least favorite console last gen but hey at least it saw a full life span.

owww SNAP! 

It also had 3 GOTY out of the 5 years it was released.jeffwulf

RE4, MP, and WW can't hold up against the constant flow of great games for the PS2 and the larger amount of titles even the Xbox had. 

They offered incentive to buy it, but the other two consoles just offered more in terms of games.

The GC had some really great games on it. Don't try to deny that, it just makes you look like a fanboy.

And I seriously doubt you ever owned a gamecube. 

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="jeffwulf"]It also had 3 GOTY out of the 5 years it was released.Panzer_Zwei

Even though the gamecube was lack luster due to lack of 3rd party support and long droughts its ironic how you mention this. I mean seeing as how every console Sega made after the Genesis eventually had a gaming drought because they were so quickly discontinued. Gamecube was my least favorite console last gen but hey at least it saw a full life span.

I'm just saying its ironic that you criticize one system for having droughts when all of your favoirte systems get discontinued meaning they have something worse then droughts, meaning no games at all. I'm not debating what system has better games because thats all debatable. You could say that the Dreamcast had 10x better games then the Gamecube but in the end it ultimately met a larger drought then the Gamecube ever did due to its life span ending so quickly.

Spelling Sega in all CAPS. Oh you know them are fighting words with Panzer :P

I'm just saying its ironic that you criticize one system for having droughts when all of your favoirte systems get discontinued meaning they have something worse then droughts, meaning no games at all. I'm not debating what system has better games because thats all debatable. You could say that the Dreamcast had 10x better games then the Gamecube but in the end it ultimately met a larger drought then the Gamecube ever did due to its life span ending so quickly.

Spelling Sega in all CAPS. Oh you know them are fighting words with Panzer :P

Blackbond

And I always spell SEGA with caps, that's how their logo has always been.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I'm just saying its ironic that you criticize one system for having droughts when all of your favoirte systems get discontinued meaning they have something worse then droughts, meaning no games at all. I'm not debating what system has better games because thats all debatable. You could say that the Dreamcast had 10x better games then the Gamecube but in the end it ultimately met a larger drought then the Gamecube ever did due to its life span ending so quickly.

Spelling Sega in all CAPS. Oh you know them are fighting words with Panzer :P

Panzer_Zwei

And I always spell SEGA with caps, that's how their logo has always been.

Listen this is the point I'm making. The Gamecube was the least appealing console last gen, to me anyways. but it was still decent. But how can you go on and criticize it for the same problems that consoles like Dreamcast and Saturn faced. N64 and Gamecube had gaming droughts. Saturn and Dreamcast were discontinued early and left consumers with no games at all. Both ways there were a drought in games. I just find it ironic you can be criticize Gamecube for having gaming droughts but not recognize that some of your favorite systems were in similar situations. That is what I call being a hypocrite.

System wars is always fun after a long day at school to relax, unwind and laugh at some of the most hypocritical and idiotic people in the world - fanboys/girls.

Here's my two cents (pence over here) The Gamecube was a very powerful and able console last gen, a lot more powerful than the ps2, The ps2 on the other hand had a LOT of games, sure many of those games were ported onto xbox, psp and sometimes gamecube but who cares when it had them all right? That's all well and good but in my opinion the sheer volume of average games the ps2 had to offer couldn't come close to matching the quality of the gamecubes first party titles. I always saw the xbox as a middle ground between the two as I never played mine much.

So it all comes down to a couple of things, if you have a lot of money and free time and don't mind playing the same games with different settings over and over again then the ps2 was the best option last gen. If you have little money and free time and love fun, original games then the gamecube was best, if you don't fit into any of the catagories then take your pick between all three (sorry I couldn't come up with a defining reason to buy xbox (don't flame me for it! please!)) 

Plus you guys need to remember this is my opinion and your's is yours, that's life, but don't quit your day jobs arguing with people on this forum, it's one of my favourite forms of entertainment!:P 

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I'm just saying its ironic that you criticize one system for having droughts when all of your favoirte systems get discontinued meaning they have something worse then droughts, meaning no games at all. I'm not debating what system has better games because thats all debatable. You could say that the Dreamcast had 10x better games then the Gamecube but in the end it ultimately met a larger drought then the Gamecube ever did due to its life span ending so quickly.

Spelling Sega in all CAPS. Oh you know them are fighting words with Panzer :P

Blackbond

And I always spell SEGA with caps, that's how their logo has always been.

Listen this is the point I'm making. The Gamecube was the least appealing console last gen, to me anyways. but it was still decent. But how can you go on and criticize it for the same problems that consoles like Dreamcast and Saturn faced. N64 and Gamecube had gaming droughts. Saturn and Dreamcast were discontinued early and left consumers with no games at all. Both ways there were a drought in games. I just find it ironic you can be criticize Gamecube for having gaming droughts but not recognize that some of your favorite systems were in similar situations. That is what I call being a hypocrite.

I don't ever recall any topic where I have discussed the droughts of SEGA systems for that matter, so you have no idea if I do critisize them for that or not. SEGA had their problems and are up to critisize, but they have nothing to do with this topic, and that's what you don't seem to seem to be able to comprehend.

Comming running and mentioning SEGA everytime I make a statement, will not make it null, no matter how much you wish it. 

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

I'm just saying its ironic that you criticize one system for having droughts when all of your favoirte systems get discontinued meaning they have something worse then droughts, meaning no games at all. I'm not debating what system has better games because thats all debatable. You could say that the Dreamcast had 10x better games then the Gamecube but in the end it ultimately met a larger drought then the Gamecube ever did due to its life span ending so quickly.

Spelling Sega in all CAPS. Oh you know them are fighting words with Panzer :P

Panzer_Zwei

And I always spell SEGA with caps, that's how their logo has always been.

Listen this is the point I'm making. The Gamecube was the least appealing console last gen, to me anyways. but it was still decent. But how can you go on and criticize it for the same problems that consoles like Dreamcast and Saturn faced. N64 and Gamecube had gaming droughts. Saturn and Dreamcast were discontinued early and left consumers with no games at all. Both ways there were a drought in games. I just find it ironic you can be criticize Gamecube for having gaming droughts but not recognize that some of your favorite systems were in similar situations. That is what I call being a hypocrite.

I don't ever recall any topic where I have discussed the droughts of SEGA systems for that matter, so you have no idea if I do critisize them for that or not. SEGA had their problems and are up to critisize, but they have nothing to do with this topic, and that's what you don't seem to seem to be able to comprehend.

Comming running and mentioning SEGA everytime I make a statement, will not make it null, no matter how much you wish it.

Because making a hypocritical statement regardless of context makes your arguement look bad. Listen I'm not a huge fan of the Gamecube like I said but dissing it the way you are doesn't make sense as it shares the same issues your favorite consoles has as well that is the point. I am in no way trying to defend Nintendo as they ended up in 3rd place for a reason the fact that you complain about Gamecube droughts and supported the Dreamcast just makes me laugh. 

System wars is always fun after a long day at school to relax, unwind and laugh at some of the most hypocritical and idiotic people in the world - fanboys/girls.

Here's my two cents (pence over here) The Gamecube was a very powerful and able console last gen, a lot more powerful than the ps2, The ps2 on the other hand had a LOT of games, sure many of those games were ported onto xbox, psp and sometimes gamecube but who cares when it had them all right? That's all well and good but in my opinion the sheer volume of average games the ps2 had to offer couldn't come close to matching the quality of the gamecubes first party titles. I always saw the xbox as a middle ground between the two as I never played mine much.

So it all comes down to a couple of things, if you have a lot of money and free time and don't mind playing the same games with different settings over and over again then the ps2 was the best option last gen. If you have little money and free time and love fun, original games then the gamecube was best, if you don't fit into any of the catagories then take your pick between all three (sorry I couldn't come up with a defining reason to buy xbox (don't flame me for it! please!))

Plus you guys need to remember this is my opinion and your's is yours, that's life, but don't quit your day jobs arguing with people on this forum, it's one of my favourite forms of entertainment!:P

 

O_OdazX_X

I will admit that a lot of the popular PS2 games were the same game in different settings (I'm assuming you are talking about the abundance of JRPGs). There were a lot of fun and original games though. I picked up a game called SkyGunner at a movie rental store sale for 10 bucks over spring break, just because it was published by Atlas and I usually like the stuff they bring over here. Turned out to be one of the best games I have played on the system (think Starfox with Ogre Battle styled characters). Point is I guess that PS2 had a lot of awesome games that no one knew about. 

Because making a hypocritical statement regardless of context makes your arguement look bad. Listen I'm not a huge fan of the Gamecube like I said but dissing it the way you are doesn't make sense as it shares the same issues your favorite consoles has as well that is the point. I am in no way trying to defend Nintendo as they ended up in 3rd place for a reason the fact that you complain about Gamecube droughts and supported the Dreamcast just makes me laugh.

Blackbond

If I buy I system I don't care about how other systems do, I care about how the system I just purchased does. So because the Dreamcast was discontinued means I can't critisize other systems I bought no matter how bad they do? what kind of non-sensic philosophy is that?

Your argument has no value at all. Despíte what my favourite system is and how it did, I can critisize whatever I want if another system of mine fails to live to my expecations.

[QUOTE="O_OdazX_X"]

System wars is always fun after a long day at school to relax, unwind and laugh at some of the most hypocritical and idiotic people in the world - fanboys/girls.

Here's my two cents (pence over here) The Gamecube was a very powerful and able console last gen, a lot more powerful than the ps2, The ps2 on the other hand had a LOT of games, sure many of those games were ported onto xbox, psp and sometimes gamecube but who cares when it had them all right? That's all well and good but in my opinion the sheer volume of average games the ps2 had to offer couldn't come close to matching the quality of the gamecubes first party titles. I always saw the xbox as a middle ground between the two as I never played mine much.

So it all comes down to a couple of things, if you have a lot of money and free time and don't mind playing the same games with different settings over and over again then the ps2 was the best option last gen. If you have little money and free time and love fun, original games then the gamecube was best, if you don't fit into any of the catagories then take your pick between all three (sorry I couldn't come up with a defining reason to buy xbox (don't flame me for it! please!))

Plus you guys need to remember this is my opinion and your's is yours, that's life, but don't quit your day jobs arguing with people on this forum, it's one of my favourite forms of entertainment!:P

 

bloodychimp

I will admit that a lot of the popular PS2 games were the same game in different settings (I'm assuming you are talking about the abundance of JRPGs). There were a lot of fun and original games though. I picked up a game called SkyGunner at a movie rental store sale for 10 bucks over spring break, just because it was published by Atlas and I usually like the stuff they bring over here. Turned out to be one of the best games I have played on the system (think Starfox with Ogre Battle styled characters). Point is I guess that PS2 had a lot of awesome games that no one knew about.

Fair doos, and I was also talkin about all of the FPSs that all seemed a little too similar for my liking, but you also make a good point, I'd forgotten about games like Disgea (sorry if wrong spelling no time to correct) of course there was the final fantasy games which i'm HUGE fan of, but I still think overall, Nintendo's 1st party games are some of the best money can buy, and they were only availible on gamecube for that five years. 

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Because making a hypocritical statement regardless of context makes your arguement look bad. Listen I'm not a huge fan of the Gamecube like I said but dissing it the way you are doesn't make sense as it shares the same issues your favorite consoles has as well that is the point. I am in no way trying to defend Nintendo as they ended up in 3rd place for a reason the fact that you complain about Gamecube droughts and supported the Dreamcast just makes me laugh.

Panzer_Zwei

If I buy I system I don't care about how other systems do, I care about how the system I just purchased does. So because the Dreamcast was discontinued means I can't critisize other systems I bought no matter how bad they do? what kind of non-sensic philosophy is that?

Your argument has no value at all. Despíte what my favourite system is and how it did, I can critisize whatever I want if another system of mine fails to live to my expecations.

Well of course you can criticize and like any system you want Panzer its called being entitled to your opinion and having free thought. Even if you are still being hypocritical about it. I have no arguement this is true, I only have a question. That question is why do you criticize the Gamecube for having 3rd Party droughts when Dreamcast and yes Saturn went through the same thing? You can think what you want say what you want it doesn't matter to me. At this point I still think you're still being a hypocrite. 

[QUOTE="bloodychimp"][QUOTE="O_OdazX_X"]

System wars is always fun after a long day at school to relax, unwind and laugh at some of the most hypocritical and idiotic people in the world - fanboys/girls.

Here's my two cents (pence over here) The Gamecube was a very powerful and able console last gen, a lot more powerful than the ps2, The ps2 on the other hand had a LOT of games, sure many of those games were ported onto xbox, psp and sometimes gamecube but who cares when it had them all right? That's all well and good but in my opinion the sheer volume of average games the ps2 had to offer couldn't come close to matching the quality of the gamecubes first party titles. I always saw the xbox as a middle ground between the two as I never played mine much.

So it all comes down to a couple of things, if you have a lot of money and free time and don't mind playing the same games with different settings over and over again then the ps2 was the best option last gen. If you have little money and free time and love fun, original games then the gamecube was best, if you don't fit into any of the catagories then take your pick between all three (sorry I couldn't come up with a defining reason to buy xbox (don't flame me for it! please!))

Plus you guys need to remember this is my opinion and your's is yours, that's life, but don't quit your day jobs arguing with people on this forum, it's one of my favourite forms of entertainment!:P

 

O_OdazX_X

I will admit that a lot of the popular PS2 games were the same game in different settings (I'm assuming you are talking about the abundance of JRPGs). There were a lot of fun and original games though. I picked up a game called SkyGunner at a movie rental store sale for 10 bucks over spring break, just because it was published by Atlas and I usually like the stuff they bring over here. Turned out to be one of the best games I have played on the system (think Starfox with Ogre Battle styled characters). Point is I guess that PS2 had a lot of awesome games that no one knew about.

Fair doos, and I was also talkin about all of the FPSs that all seemed a little too similar for my liking, but you also make a good point, I'd forgotten about games like Disgea (sorry if wrong spelling no time to correct) of course there was the final fantasy games which i'm HUGE fan of, but I still think overall, Nintendo's 1st party games are some of the best money can buy, and they were only availible on gamecube for that five years.

No question about that. Zelda ranks up there with Warcraft and Tribes as my favorite serieses ever. And actually Disgaea was one of the few RPGs on the PS2 that actually stood out IMO. I was mainly referring to the usual legions of FF clones that show up on Sony systems. 

Did you know it's still fun and has quite a few exclusives? Oh well, I guess facts prove me wrong. I guess all that time I played GC wasn't actually fun because you told me it's terrible :(.Dark_Link142

Just remember: because the gamecube didn't have more AA games than you would ever be able to play in a generation, you weren't having any fun. Once you come to grips with that, the healing can begin. :P 

I see its another case of Blackbond vs Panzer :|

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Because making a hypocritical statement regardless of context makes your arguement look bad. Listen I'm not a huge fan of the Gamecube like I said but dissing it the way you are doesn't make sense as it shares the same issues your favorite consoles has as well that is the point. I am in no way trying to defend Nintendo as they ended up in 3rd place for a reason the fact that you complain about Gamecube droughts and supported the Dreamcast just makes me laugh.

Blackbond

If I buy I system I don't care about how other systems do, I care about how the system I just purchased does. So because the Dreamcast was discontinued means I can't critisize other systems I bought no matter how bad they do? what kind of non-sensic philosophy is that?

Your argument has no value at all. Despíte what my favourite system is and how it did, I can critisize whatever I want if another system of mine fails to live to my expecations.

Well of course you can criticize and like any system you want Panzer its called being entitled to your opinion and having free thought. Even if you are still being hypocritical about it. I have no arguement this is true, I only have a question. That question is why do you criticize the Gamecube for having 3rd Party droughts when Dreamcast and yes Saturn went through the same thing? You can think what you want say what you want it doesn't matter to me. At this point I still think you're still being a hypocrite.

I've never defended the DC discontinuation or the lack of support from SEGA for the Saturn outside of Japan, and I've critisized it in here several times. So, at this point I still think you have no argument at all, and your mentioning of SEGA all the time, pointless.

I see its another case of Blackbond vs Panzer :|

kage_53

Better than me vs Panzer like the old days. This thread would have been nothing but 200 replies of back and forths.

On topic, I found enjoyment in my Gamecube. Whenever I find enjoyment out of a console, it's a success in my book. Outside the realm of my personal feelings, yes, the GC was a disappointment but I wouldn't call it terrible. Terrible would be in the realm of a 3DO, 32x or Virtual Boy.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Because making a hypocritical statement regardless of context makes your arguement look bad. Listen I'm not a huge fan of the Gamecube like I said but dissing it the way you are doesn't make sense as it shares the same issues your favorite consoles has as well that is the point. I am in no way trying to defend Nintendo as they ended up in 3rd place for a reason the fact that you complain about Gamecube droughts and supported the Dreamcast just makes me laugh.

Panzer_Zwei

If I buy I system I don't care about how other systems do, I care about how the system I just purchased does. So because the Dreamcast was discontinued means I can't critisize other systems I bought no matter how bad they do? what kind of non-sensic philosophy is that?

Your argument has no value at all. Despíte what my favourite system is and how it did, I can critisize whatever I want if another system of mine fails to live to my expecations.

Well of course you can criticize and like any system you want Panzer its called being entitled to your opinion and having free thought. Even if you are still being hypocritical about it. I have no arguement this is true, I only have a question. That question is why do you criticize the Gamecube for having 3rd Party droughts when Dreamcast and yes Saturn went through the same thing? You can think what you want say what you want it doesn't matter to me. At this point I still think you're still being a hypocrite.

I've never defended the DC discontinuation or the lack of support from SEGA for the Saturn outside of Japan, and I've critisized it in here several times. So, at this point I still think you have no argument at all, and your mentioning of SEGA all the time, pointless.

Ok Panzer whatever you say. Go back to playing your discontinued systems. The rules apply to all systems not just some. While the N64 was still getting games Saturn was discontinued while the Gamecube was still getting games Dreamcast was discontinued. I don't know what your different expectations were for the Dreamcast but its obvious they weren't that high.  

The system had around 130 AA+ games

 

in contrast..

 

the PS2 had around 300 AA+ games and the Xbox had around 200 AA+ games

 

 

The gamecube also only had 19 AAA games

the xbox had 40

the ps2 had 61

Huxley_00

So having around 150 good-great games makes the system terrible? I dont know how many games you buy for each system, but i get around 30-50, maybe you guys should get lives.... 

Ok Panzer whatever you say. Go back to playing your discontinued systems. The rules apply to all systems not just some. While the N64 was still getting games Saturn was discontinued while the Gamecube was still getting games Dreamcast was discontinued. I don't know what your different expectations were for the Dreamcast but its obvious they weren't that high.

Blackbond

And the same rules apply to all, I was letdown with the Dreamcast and with the GC. When we're actually talking about the Dreamcast then share your thoughts.

[QUOTE="kage_53"]

I see its another case of Blackbond vs Panzer :|

Redmoonxl2

Better than me vs Panzer like the old days. This thread would have been nothing but 200 replies of back and forths.

On topic, I found enjoyment in my Gamecube. Whenever I find enjoyment out of a console, it's a success in my book. Outside the realm of my personal feelings, yes, the GC was a disappointment but I wouldn't call it terrible. Terrible would be in the realm of a 3DO, 32x or Virtual Boy.

Debates between GUFU members are always fun to watch. Reminds me of some of the back and forths I've had in the past.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Ok Panzer whatever you say. Go back to playing your discontinued systems. The rules apply to all systems not just some. While the N64 was still getting games Saturn was discontinued while the Gamecube was still getting games Dreamcast was discontinued. I don't know what your different expectations were for the Dreamcast but its obvious they weren't that high.

Panzer_Zwei

And the same rules apply to all, I was letdown with the Dreamcast and with the GC. When we're actually talking about the Dreamcast then share your thoughts.

Panzer if you noticed about 5 posts before hand I said I had no arguement that I was only asking how you can be hypocritical. But I don't know man. Once the word Sega comes into affect you just turn into a different person. A question can't be interpreted as an arguement. Well unless that's the way you see questions that is.

So you were also let down by the Dreamcast as well. Man if you would have said that in the first place we wouldn't have had to go through this now would we. They were letdowns for the same reasons. Lack of games.

Look at the userbase - Now do you realize why their were more AA games on The other two consoles?

Plus, the GC also got 3 GOTY's out of the 5 years of its life cycle, yet it was the lowest selling one.  

I find it odd that everyone loves the dreamcast yet hates the gamecube.Cassius128

Exactly my point. They both suffered from a lack of games. 

I had fun with GC more than any other system last-gen so STFU!

Optusnet

Anyway, back on topic, people who say GameCube was rubbish don't know what they're talking about. As real gamer should know, QUALITY NOT QUANTITY. What the hell do I care if PS2 got more games? I like GameCube WAAAAAAY more and IMO, PS2 doesn't even compare. Not a bit.UKNintendoFreak

i think both were fantastic consoles, GC had Smash, Sunshine, Metroid, Battalion Wars, Wind Waker, and Tp, While the PS2 offered games like DMC3, GoW1, GoW2, SotC, R&C, and Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2.  

I find it odd that everyone loves the dreamcast yet hates the gamecube.Cassius128

The GC had lack of third party support, and that's what I stated in this topic, relevant to the GC system.Panzer_Zwei

The facts are that it had many excellent games, including some of the defining games of last generation (3 GOTY, after all), and hardware wise it was well built, durable, had a comfortable, ergonomic controller design, and did all that at a cheap price.
You may not have liked it, but by no stretch of the imagination was the GameCube terrible.

I find it odd that everyone loves the dreamcast yet hates the gamecube.Cassius128

Don't get me wrong, Dreamcast was a great system but I agree it is hypocritical to bash one and praise the other when both were disappointments in the realm of longevity. I think it has more to do with the Dreamcast being Sega's last hurrah in the console market than anything else.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Ok Panzer whatever you say. Go back to playing your discontinued systems. The rules apply to all systems not just some. While the N64 was still getting games Saturn was discontinued while the Gamecube was still getting games Dreamcast was discontinued. I don't know what your different expectations were for the Dreamcast but its obvious they weren't that high.

Blackbond

And the same rules apply to all, I was letdown with the Dreamcast and with the GC. When we're actually talking about the Dreamcast then share your thoughts.

Panzer if you noticed about 5 posts before hand I said I had no arguement that I was only asking how you can be hypocritical. But I don't know man. Once the word Sega comes into affect you just turn into a different person. A question can't be interpreted as an arguement. Well unless that's the way you see questions that is.

[QUOTE="Cassius128"]I find it odd that everyone loves the dreamcast yet hates the gamecube.Blackbond

Exactly my point. They both suffered from a lack of games.

The Dreamcast is like an artist that died young, people never saw him decay, so all they can wonder is the potential that he could've had. 

IMHO SSBM > any console multiplayer experience

the GC was a great system- had some real classics.

EDIT - spelling error 

The 3 GOTY will be the default response to this, always was, always will.Panzer_Zwei

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Ok Panzer whatever you say. Go back to playing your discontinued systems. The rules apply to all systems not just some. While the N64 was still getting games Saturn was discontinued while the Gamecube was still getting games Dreamcast was discontinued. I don't know what your different expectations were for the Dreamcast but its obvious they weren't that high.

Panzer_Zwei

And the same rules apply to all, I was letdown with the Dreamcast and with the GC. When we're actually talking about the Dreamcast then share your thoughts.

Panzer if you noticed about 5 posts before hand I said I had no arguement that I was only asking how you can be hypocritical. But I don't know man. Once the word Sega comes into affect you just turn into a different person. A question can't be interpreted as an arguement. Well unless that's the way you see questions that is.

No its basically how are you going to criticize GC for lackluster 3rd Party when the Dreamcast was discontinued and had no games at all. So you say you bought a GC not expecting it to have the issuses it had ok that makes sense. But buy saying that you make it sound like you were expecting the Dreamcast to fail from the get go. We know both were disappointments because they lacked games. A lot of your fellow GUFU aren't claiming how can people say they liked Dreamcast but not Gamecube when they were plagued by the same problems for no reason man. I don't understand how anyone could think one is terrible and the other wasn't or vice versa. 

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Cassius128"]I find it odd that everyone loves the dreamcast yet hates the gamecube.Panzer_Zwei

Exactly my point. They both suffered from a lack of games.

The Dreamcast is like an artist that died young, people never saw him decay, so all they can wonder is the potential that he could've had.

You don't call a console being sold for $50 a long agonizing life span lol. It suffered from lack of good games because while others were playing the other systems of the generation Dreamcast was DEAD. That is the ultimate game drought not having games to play at all period man. 

[QUOTE="Cassius128"]I find it odd that everyone loves the dreamcast yet hates the gamecube.Blackbond

Exactly my point. They both suffered from a lack of games. 

IMHO SSBM > any console multiplayer experience

the GC was a great system- had some real classics.

 

EDIT - spelling error

xxxxThe_GoaTxxx

It's number 2 for me...top 5 go something like this

Goldeneye

SSBM

Mario Kart 64

Halo 

Perfect Dark

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Ok Panzer whatever you say. Go back to playing your discontinued systems. The rules apply to all systems not just some. While the N64 was still getting games Saturn was discontinued while the Gamecube was still getting games Dreamcast was discontinued. I don't know what your different expectations were for the Dreamcast but its obvious they weren't that high.

Blackbond

And the same rules apply to all, I was letdown with the Dreamcast and with the GC. When we're actually talking about the Dreamcast then share your thoughts.

Panzer if you noticed about 5 posts before hand I said I had no arguement that I was only asking how you can be hypocritical. But I don't know man. Once the word Sega comes into affect you just turn into a different person. A question can't be interpreted as an arguement. Well unless that's the way you see questions that is.

No its basically how are you going to criticize GC for lackluster 3rd Party when the Dreamcast was discontinued and had no games at all. So you say you bought a GC not expecting it to have the issuses it had ok that makes sense. But buy saying that you make it sound like you were expecting the Dreamcast to fail from the get go. We know both were disappointments because they lacked games. A lot of your fellow GUFU aren't claiming how can people say they liked Dreamcast but not Gamecube when they were plagued by the same problems for no reason man. I don't understand how anyone could think one is terrible and the other wasn't or vice versa.

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[QUOTE="Cassius128"]I find it odd that everyone loves the dreamcast yet hates the gamecube.kage_53

Exactly my point. They both suffered from a lack of games.

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[QUOTE="Cassius128"]I find it odd that everyone loves the dreamcast yet hates the gamecube.Blackbond

Exactly my point. They both suffered from a lack of games.

The Dreamcast is like an artist that died young, people never saw him decay, so all they can wonder is the potential that he could've had.

You don't call a console being sold for $50 a long agonizing life span lol. It suffered from lack of good games because while others were playing the other systems of the generation Dreamcast was DEAD. That is the ultimate game drought not having games to play at all period man.