Do Square Enix hate Sony?

First Final Fantasy 13 went multiplat, then Final Fantasy 14, hey! why not star ocean only for the 360?! There is a 80% chance Kingdom Hearts 3 will be multiplat. Whats next? Persona 5 on Xbox 360!?!?!?

You cant trust anyone these days. Sure its for money but sony fans have been nothing but loyal to SE and now they screw sony over?

Whats your opinon?

-PSfanboy101 (Im not a fanboy anymore! :D)

No, because we have Dissidia!

No clue, but I hate Square Enix.

I can't tell if this is a joke or not. Anyway, they started off on nintendo, so why would they be bound to Sony? I hope to god KH3 does come out on X360, because I'm not interested in FF at all.

Final Fantasy 14 wasn't ever meant to be console-exclusive to PS3.

if you read carefully during the convention, Square Enix people repeatedly said they did not sign an exclusivity deal with Sony. that it happened to be that PS3 and PC were the easiest to make an MMO on. they did not rule out it coming to 360.

There have been Japanese articles that Star Ocean 4 will be coming to the PS3, and i wouldn't be a bit surprise if it came with additional content like the Ninja Gaiden series has been doing. It just hasn't been officially announced.

It doesn't bother me one bit if Persona 5 or Kingdom Hearts 3 go multi-platform either. so long as we still get to play it, why should we care. and i'm personally not gonna waste my time counting polygons to see which ones are 'sharper'.

I personally wouldn't be surprised if Kingdom Hearts 3 ends the series. 1 and 2 are following a narrative. i can't say the same for Persona series (i'm buying Persona for my future PSP Go though... would love to play this game). Maybe each Persona game is it's own encapsulated story and that would matter much in the end either.

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What is becoming exclusive is not so much third party support - the economics are not there anymore, they have to go multi-plat - it will be exclusive DLC. whatever the platform holder can do to persuade the average consumer to buy a certain version. even then the majority of that exclusive DLC ends up coming to the other platform anyways. would not be surprised if GTA4 DLC comes PS3, and Arkham-Joker comes to 360.

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As the people at both 360 and PS3 have said. it'll be up to the 1st party devs to make the exclusive games.

unless your like the Wii that is completely unique, under-powered (you cannot put GTA4 or Final Fantasy 13 on the Wii withought tearing out most of the game or downgrading it so far that only desperate Wii-only owners would buy it) machine. in which case most of their games are gonna be exclusive, and if you wanna push it your gonna have to be really creative with it.

Square Enix doesn't hate sony, they just love money

I just think think they love money more. Loyalty can only take you so far.

Sony fans have been loyal to square? then why haven't the past 6 or so final fantasy games sold in the 50 millions? i mean with 150 million ps2's out there you would think all those games would have sold atleast 15-20 million a peice.

I just think think they love money more. Loyalty can only take you so far.

karena

Enix has always been more frugal, took less risks, whereas Square was more innovative, high budget, etc.

It seems Enix runs the company once they merged.

So, now SE is more of a multiplat company, although they've shown more support for 360 this gen than PS3, again that's business.

However, It's Ironic that Square isn't as awesome as they once were. That merger really hurt the company imo, and unfortunately, that was about the time the 360 came out. Bad timing, I guess.

Enix has always been more frugal, took less risks, whereas Square was more innovative, high budget, etc.

It seems Enix runs the company once they merged.

So, now SE is more of a multiplat company, although they've shown more support for 360 this gen than PS3, again that's business.

However, It's Ironic that Square isn't as awesome as they once were. That merger really hurt the company imo, and unfortunately, that was about the time the 360 came out. Bad timing, I guess.

SolidTy

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Enix has always been more frugal, took less risks, whereas Square was more innovative, high budget, etc.

It seems Enix runs the company once they merged.

So, now SE is more of a multiplat company, although they've shown more support for 360 this gen than PS3, again that's business.

However, It's Ironic that Square isn't as awesome as they once were. That merger really hurt the company imo, and unfortunately, that was about the time the 360 came out. Bad timing, I guess.

Zaibach

Square Enix doesn't hate sony, they just love money

DoomZaW

^This is the only valid response here^

[QUOTE="DoomZaW"]

Square Enix doesn't hate sony, they just love money

Shad0ki11

^This is the only valid response here^

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Enix has always been more frugal, took less risks, whereas Square was more innovative, high budget, etc.

It seems Enix runs the company once they merged.

So, now SE is more of a multiplat company, although they've shown more support for 360 this gen than PS3, again that's business.

However, It's Ironic that Square isn't as awesome as they once were. That merger really hurt the company imo, and unfortunately, that was about the time the 360 came out. Bad timing, I guess.

SaudiFury

No, they just love profit more. What's the point in making exclusve PS3 games? You'll just lose money.

For the record, Persona and Shin Megami Tensei in general have nothing to do with Square-Enix, Atlus publishes them, and Atlus seems to love Sony along with NIS. It does seem like Square-Enix is failing to deliver on their "support all consoles equally" statement, considering every other RPG dev has released a few real games on PS3 while they continue to seemingly ignore it. There is stuff on the horizon, but it seems like forever away. Three years with no releases aside from a small PSN castle defenders game is pretty pitiful.

First Final Fantasy 13 went multiplat, then Final Fantasy 14, hey! why not star ocean only for the 360?! There is a 80% chance Kingdom Hearts 3 will be multiplat. Whats next? Persona 5 on Xbox 360!?!?!?

You cant trust anyone these days. Sure its for money but sony fans have been nothing but loyal to SE and now they screw sony over?

Whats your opinon?

-PSfanboy101 (Im not a fanboy anymore! :D)

PSfanboy101

Its not a question of hating, its just business and SE realised that going multiplat was the way to go this gen in order to make more money..

However SE lately didnt deliver those great games it used to do sometime ago... still they are one of the best devs and going multiplat means more gamers can enjoy their titles..

I say its more of SE making stupid decisions to somehow not bring their games to the PS3. Now their greed and lack of effort are really showing the consequences.

Final Fantasy XIII alone should tell you "no."

Versus, Dissidia, Parasite Eve, and Agito should tell you "hell no."

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

No, they just love profit more. What's the point in making exclusve PS3 games? You'll just lose money.

hakanakumono

LOL RITE LETS JUST MAKE GAMES LUK LIKE NES GAMES, ART AND VISION HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Hes right.

Why make a game exclusive to the PS3 when Sony isnt forking over any money and you can double sales by alsoputting it on the 360.

Unless you were crying about it being on the Wii.

This is the same reason why they ditched the N64 for the PS1 after years of releasing their games exclusively for Nintendo systems. They chose the PS1 because of the lower costs of CDs, cheaper licensing fees and a chance to make a bigger profit than they would on the N64.

The slow adoption of the PS3 in its first few years and the rising costs of video game development forced Square Enix to adopt a policy of putting their games on every console. Square Enix doesn't hate Sony, they simply focus their efforts more on the PSP which is cheaper to produce games for and carries less risk if something fails.

Its the main reason why the DS has seen the most SE games this generation. Its cheap to make games for it, and most them of sell millions of copies each generating good returns for fairly cheap investments.

The reality is, Square Enix doesn't hate Sony, they have simply shifted their policy to ensure they make money this generation.

Square can't make enough $$$ just selling to the PS3. It's true of almost all game developers, everyone wants to go multiplat. There are very few exclusives, and most are first-party.

I've actually enjoyed the SquareEnix games I've played on the PS3 so far this gen like Tomb Raider: Underworld and Batman: AA.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

No, they just love profit more. What's the point in making exclusve PS3 games? You'll just lose money.

shutdown_202

LOL RITE LETS JUST MAKE GAMES LUK LIKE NES GAMES, ART AND VISION HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Hes right.

Why make a game exclusive to the PS3 when Sony isnt forking over any money and you can double sales by alsoputting it on the 360.

Unless you were crying about it being on the Wii.

I don't think that's' what he's saying. Obviously Square should go ahead and make 360/PS3 multiplats as it will make them the most money, but I think Goblaa is suggesting that the HD systems are a mistake overall.

I've actually enjoyed the SquareEnix games I've played on the PS3 so far this gen like Tomb Raider: Underworld and Batman: AA.

JLF1

OI stop being so sneaky :p

Seriously though, it Underworld good? i want to get it later today but from what i heard, it has alot of problems.

Square Enix doesn't hate sony, they just love money

DoomZaW

You beat me to it! :cry:

First Final Fantasy 13 went multiplat, then Final Fantasy 14, hey! why not star ocean only for the 360?! There is a 80% chance Kingdom Hearts 3 will be multiplat. Whats next? Persona 5 on Xbox 360!?!?!?

You cant trust anyone these days. Sure its for money but sony fans have been nothing but loyal to SE and now they screw sony over?

Whats your opinon?

-PSfanboy101 (Im not a fanboy anymore! :D)

PSfanboy101

No they just want to make American gamers familiar to JRPGs , but i think all next projects will be Multiplat

um why do you care? you still get the games on your ps3 it seems

No, but they do like more money. They know more money can come from making their big titles multi-plats.

square suck now because they dont dev exclusively for playstation anymore..G-O-M-J

I just think think they love money more. Loyalty can only take you so far.

karena

imagine if they stayed loyal to nintendo during the n64 and gamecube days instead of going to sony... hmmm

Square Enix doesn't hate Sony it's just that now with the economy the way it is and the cost of making games, companies are looking out for their wallets moreso than before; Plus they are willing to go multiplatform with certain titles and sign for exclusives if the price is right.

[QUOTE="karena"]

I just think think they love money more. Loyalty can only take you so far.

imagine if they stayed loyal to nintendo during the n64 and gamecube days instead of going to sony... hmmm

Square Enix doesn't hate Sony it's just that now with the economy the way it is and the cost of making games, companies are looking out for their wallets moreso than before; Plus they are willing to go multiplatform with certain titles and sign for exclusives if the price is right.

Square Enix doesn't hate sony, they just love money

DoomZaW

This.