Do Wii owners even have a game to talk about?

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#51 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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Wii owners have a whopping 19 quality games (A or better) to choose from this year. They don't just have one game to talk about, they have 19! :| ... :lol:
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#52 AlexSays
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They don't just have one game to talk about, they have 19!Stevo_the_gamer
So the people have to spend $950 before they can complain about the lack of games. Now how many of you guys and gals have spent a thousand?
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#53 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator  Online
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]They don't just have one game to talk about, they have 19!AlexSays
So the people have to spend $950 before they can complain about the lack of games. Now how many of you guys and gals have spent a thousand?

If one were to complain, it would be over the lack of quality options to choose from. And judging by how critically "well" the Wii's library is this year... I'd say everyone has a right to point and laugh at the sheep for defending a system whose library is dismal at best. ;)
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#54 AlexSays
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I'd say everyone has a right to point and laugh at the sheep for defending a system whose library is dismal at best. ;)Stevo_the_gamer
I'd say everyone has a right to point and laugh at people ridiculing others for playing what they like. ;)
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#55 dylanmcc
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The Conduit

Besides that, there's nothing to look for on the Wii.... at least that's how it is for me.

lebanese_boy

Yeah, same with me. It hurts at the moment only having a Wii. I need a 360 :'(
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#56 dylanmcc
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I'd say everyone has a right to point and laugh at the sheep for defending a system whose library is dismal at best. ;)AlexSays
I'd say everyone has a right to point and laugh at people ridiculing others for playing what they like. ;)


I agree with AlexSays :)
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#57 Zhengi
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Why talk about games when there is so much playing to do? I've been playing Tales of Symphonia 2 and it's pretty good so far. I have about 15 hours invested into it so far.
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#58 WalterPaladines
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Um, I haven't bought a Wii game in a long time, but there are a few I plan to get when I have the time and money, those being:

de Blob

LostWinds

Blast Works

and

World of GooSpruceCaboose
Wow imo that list looks terrible, but if you enjoy those games by all means get them. Looks like the Gamecube all over again, but worst.
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#59 JLF1
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I have lots of games I could talk about. Unfortunately they don't have guns, shooting, and violence, so I'd be ridiculed for even mentioning them.

AlexSays


Oh, please not this again.
Almost every game has violence. SMG, Tales of Symhponia 2, De blob, SSBB, Wario land and No more heroes has violence.

Hyped Wii games like:

Madworld
The Conduit
Fragile
Punch out 2
Sin and punishment 2

have a ton of violence.

I can easily mention a ton of PS3 and 360 games that don't have to much violence or blood that was released this year and scored at leat a 7 (meaning a Good game).

Valkyria Chronicles
Banjo: NaB
Viva Pinata 2
Little big planet
Disgaea 3
Tales of Vesparia
Rock band 2
Briad
Pixeljunk: Eden
Mirror's edge
Eternal Sonata (on PS3 this year)
Pure
Motorstorm 2
Top Spin 3
Grid
Hot shots golf 5
GT5: P
Burnout paradise
Lost Odyssey

Now where in this list are the grey shooter with tons of violence?

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It's been a hell of a drought this past 6 months. But then again, the first 6 months were a hell of a drought for the 360 and PS3.

Still, I've been enjoying deBlob and World of Goo.

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#61 JLF1
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It's been a hell of a drought this past 6 months. But then again, the first 6 months were a hell of a drought for the 360 and PS3.

Still, I've been enjoying deBlob and World of Goo.

goblaa

The first 6 months the 360 had:

Lost Odyssey
Condemned 2
Burnout paradise
Devil May Cry 4
GTA4
Soul Calibur 4
Grid
Civilization: Revolution
Battlefield: Bad Company
Bourne
Ninja Gaiden 2

And the PS3 had:

Condemned 2
Burnout paradise
Devil May Cry 4
GTA4
Soul Calibur 4
Grid
Civilization: Revolution
Battlefield: Bad Company
Bourne
Metal gear Solid 4


This is not a drought. Multiplats are the majority of the good games this gen and the Wii is missing out on 90% of them.
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#62 Syferonik
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ROFL of course they do....we all know how sheeps play SALES lol bu bu but my wii sales so much more than your ps3/360 but all you get is Wii music garbage and 1 mario once per year LOL. SHEEPS you better be ready to play wast of space games like that till next nintendo.
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#63 Bread_or_Decide
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Wii is having the worst holiday season game-wise.
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Um, I haven't bought a Wii game in a long time, but there are a few I plan to get when I have the time and money, those being:

de Blob

LostWinds

Blast Works

and

World of GooWalterPaladines
Wow imo that list looks terrible, but if you enjoy those games by all means get them. Looks like the Gamecube all over again, but worst.

hmmmm while I fully agree its been a barren 2nd 1/2 of the year for the Wii, I would like to ask why are these terrible games? and why did they score AA or higher on Metacritic or GameRankings? also why don't you like them and have you played them?
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#65 rgame1
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It's selling so well they don't need games to feel their purchase is justified.Shafftehr
that explains it.
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#66 bf2nutta
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]It's selling so well they don't need games to feel their purchase is justified.rgame1
that explains it.

Nope not for me my purchase is justified by Wii Ware Titles, VC titles and some gems buried in the pile of crap which is the Wii library
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#67 clone01
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I mean a game that has come out recently. As a former frustrated and bored Wii owner, I sold the damn thing for almost full price and I'm happy with it...but I just want to make sure if I am missing out on anything.Devour2Survive
well, right now its pretty dry, but there are a few coming up on the horizon that look great (sadness, fatal frame 4, no more heroes 2, madworld, super punch out). also, boom blox, de blob, and world of goo were great, IMO.
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#68 stvee101
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It's been a hell of a drought this past 6 months. But then again, the first 6 months were a hell of a drought for the 360 and PS3.

Still, I've been enjoying deBlob and World of Goo.

goblaa

No it wasn't.:| 

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all the people that sold it just because ONE drought are going to be kicking themselves when alot of the amazing games come out next year.Gh0st_Of_0nyx
Unless a successor to Starfox 64 or Donkey Kong 64 comes out in 2009, I don't need/want my Wii, Madworld and Fragile look good but I could make like 400 bucks selling my Wii if I wanted. I bought a Wii for great 1st party franchises, all I got was Mario Galaxy, which is great but where's Starfox and Donkey Kong? I don't care about Smash Brawl and Mario Kart Wii sucked A LOT compared to Mario Kart 64. I essentially wanted another N64 (my fav. system of all time), and got the opposite.
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We have that Animal Crossing game ya know where they keep showing that commercial with the two girls talking about meeting up to watch the fireworks in the game. :lol:
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Most of the games out for it are more niche games. I have plenty of games that I want to get that have come out recently, but haven't had time to get them. Most notably in de Blob. Might not be your kind of game, but I think it looks like a great game and definitely worth talking about... outside of System Wars.
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We have that Animal Crossing game ya know where they keep showing that commercial with the two girls talking about meeting up to watch the fireworks in the game. :lol:SecretPolice
oh god I saw one with 2 girls also one of them was asking the other if she wanted to go shopping and then they moved the character on the screen to some area or something and they were smiling and giggling it was so lame.
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#73 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]We have that Animal Crossing game ya know where they keep showing that commercial with the two girls talking about meeting up to watch the fireworks in the game. :lol:angry_fork
oh god I saw one with 2 girls also one of them was asking the other if she wanted to go shopping and then they moved the character on the screen to some area or something and they were smiling and giggling it was so lame.

Yup thats the one and it's so funny because "n" was saying that was was going to be the 2008 game for the core gamer.
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]We have that Animal Crossing game ya know where they keep showing that commercial with the two girls talking about meeting up to watch the fireworks in the game. :lol:angry_fork
oh god I saw one with 2 girls also one of them was asking the other if she wanted to go shopping and then they moved the character on the screen to some area or something and they were smiling and giggling it was so lame.

Do you think girls have flea's as well?? Yes it aint a great advert But maybe because its a game for a casual market, you know shock horror a group of people which isn't interested in Gears of War or Resistance,
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]We have that Animal Crossing game ya know where they keep showing that commercial with the two girls talking about meeting up to watch the fireworks in the game. :lol:bf2nutta
oh god I saw one with 2 girls also one of them was asking the other if she wanted to go shopping and then they moved the character on the screen to some area or something and they were smiling and giggling it was so lame.

Do you think girls have flea's as well??

what? haha
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No not a game But Games...
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#77 RuinedMachine
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The Wii is a gaming failure. That's all there is to it.

There are about 10 users left in SW who defend it in every thread where it is mentionned. The same 10 or so users that are in this thread repeating the same old arguments we've heard before.

Crazy insane arguments that make absolutely no sense from our perspective, from gamers' perspective.

Like sales. Sheep have already decided that the winner this gen is the Wii because of its sales while everyone else is sort of looking at each other going "wth... sales? Really?" Yes the Wii is a commercial success for Nintendo. It's not a gaming success for gamers at all though.

The Wii has a pathetic library. It's been out two years now with its massive sales and almost nothing has come out of it. Nothing. Which is made all too clear when those same 10 users I was talking about defend the Wii's library with Wiiware and VC titles that supposedly keep them satisfied until the next Zelda hits. Whenever that's going to be. And either way how pathetic is that, just to keep hoping for the next big Nintendo franchise to hit while PS3 and 360 owners have so many games from both first and 3rd party to chose from.

Sheep have really gone haywire this gen. To them, it's like there's no concept of quality anymore. And if anyone even suggests quality, then they are shut down because it's "subjective". I remember a time where people use to be able to tell good games from bad ones and where people actually agreed on the quality of most titles. I mean sure there are always fanboys who will say that Halo, MGS or Mario are garbage but most gamers know these games are good even if they are not for them. Now good games are tossed aside for million sellers and everytime someone mentions how good or how bad a game is, they get shut down because that's their 'opinion'.

But don't you dare question the sheep's opinion though. All those games on the Wii that nobody cares about except for sheep, they're all gems. They're all diamonds in the rough. And if anyone questions the quality of those games they get hammered with a barrage of "why don't you stick with your guns and space marines because that's all there is to your console" or even better "we enjoy those games because we are true gamers and blah blah blah and we like know more than you because we are Nintendo fans".

Funny how everyone had high (not even high... just some) expectations for the Wii and now that's it's sucking hard, well guess what it was our own fault all along because we were expecting too much. Funny how that goes.




Because in the end, this is all that matters:

360
AAAA 1
AAA 18
AA 96

PS3
AAAA 2
AAA 14
AA 58

Wii
AAAA 0
AAA 7
AA 27
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"][QUOTE="bf2nutta"][QUOTE="angry_fork"] oh god I saw one with 2 girls also one of them was asking the other if she wanted to go shopping and then they moved the character on the screen to some area or something and they were smiling and giggling it was so lame.

Do you think girls have flea's as well??

what? haha

sorry just seen an advert from Renault... I was attempting to be funny I was playing of the fact that the female gamers may enjoy games like this... I know my ex-missus did
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#79 wooooode
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I still have mine but waiting for a new Metroid or Zelda, unless there is something else coming but I dont see anything.
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#80 bf2nutta
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The Wii is a gaming failure. That's all there is to it.

There are about 10 users left in SW who defend it in every thread where it is mentionned. The same 10 or so users that are in this thread repeating the same old arguments we've heard before.

Crazy insane arguments that make absolutely no sense from our perspective, from gamers' perspective.

Like sales. Sheep have already decided that the winner this gen is the Wii because of its sales while everyone else is sort of looking at each other going "wth... sales? Really?" Yes the Wii is a commercial success for Nintendo. It's not a gaming success for gamers at all though.

The Wii has a pathetic library. It's been out two years now with its massive sales and almost nothing has come out of it. Nothing. Which is made all too clear when those same 10 users I was talking about defend the Wii's library with Wiiware and VC titles that supposedly keep them satisfied until the next Zelda hits. Whenever that's going to be. And either way how pathetic is that, just to keep hoping for the next big Nintendo franchise to hit while PS3 and 360 owners have so many games from both first and 3rd party to chose from.

Sheep have really gone haywire this gen. To them, it's like there's no concept of quality anymore. And if anyone even suggests quality, then they are shut down because it's "subjective". I remember a time where people use to be able to tell good games from bad ones and where people actually agreed on the quality of most titles. I mean sure there are always fanboys who will say that Halo, MGS or Mario are garbage but most gamers know these games are good even if they are not for them. Now good games are tossed aside for million sellers and everytime someone mentions how good or how bad a game is, they get shut down because that's their 'opinion'.

But don't you dare question the sheep's opinion though. All those games on the Wii that nobody cares about except for sheep, they're all gems. They're all diamonds in the rough. And if anyone questions the quality of those games they get hammered with a barrage of "why don't you stick with your guns and space marines because that's all there is to your console" or even better "we enjoy those games because we are true gamers and blah blah blah and we like know more than you because we are Nintendo fans".

Funny how everyone had high (not even high... just some) expectations for the Wii and now that's it's sucking hard, well guess what it was our own fault all along because we were expecting too much. Funny how that goes.




Because in the end, this is all that matters:

360
AAAA 1
AAA 18
AA 96

PS3
AAAA 2
AAA 14
AA 58

Wii
AAAA 0
AAA 7
AA 27RuinedMachine
I am probably one of these 10 you mention lol.... but if read why I defend it and why I like it... you may understand why I defend it and then you may also understand why I hate things about it.... I not gonna sit there and miss out on titles just because this system is not cool or "hardcore" enough like some here state and I think the 10 who do defend do have other consoles.... did you realise you can own as many gaming systems as you want?
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#81 fbigent34
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Let me ask you a question why aren't you playing a video game? People have diffrent taste in games. Maybe you just suck at getting games that appeal to you. i been playing the wii more. and i enjoy Animal crossing(21 years old) first time playing it.
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#82 fbigent34
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The Wii is a gaming failure. That's all there is to it.

There are about 10 users left in SW who defend it in every thread where it is mentionned. The same 10 or so users that are in this thread repeating the same old arguments we've heard before.

Crazy insane arguments that make absolutely no sense from our perspective, from gamers' perspective.

Like sales. Sheep have already decided that the winner this gen is the Wii because of its sales while everyone else is sort of looking at each other going "wth... sales? Really?" Yes the Wii is a commercial success for Nintendo. It's not a gaming success for gamers at all though.

The Wii has a pathetic library. It's been out two years now with its massive sales and almost nothing has come out of it. Nothing. Which is made all too clear when those same 10 users I was talking about defend the Wii's library with Wiiware and VC titles that supposedly keep them satisfied until the next Zelda hits. Whenever that's going to be. And either way how pathetic is that, just to keep hoping for the next big Nintendo franchise to hit while PS3 and 360 owners have so many games from both first and 3rd party to chose from.

Sheep have really gone haywire this gen. To them, it's like there's no concept of quality anymore. And if anyone even suggests quality, then they are shut down because it's "subjective". I remember a time where people use to be able to tell good games from bad ones and where people actually agreed on the quality of most titles. I mean sure there are always fanboys who will say that Halo, MGS or Mario are garbage but most gamers know these games are good even if they are not for them. Now good games are tossed aside for million sellers and everytime someone mentions how good or how bad a game is, they get shut down because that's their 'opinion'.

But don't you dare question the sheep's opinion though. All those games on the Wii that nobody cares about except for sheep, they're all gems. They're all diamonds in the rough. And if anyone questions the quality of those games they get hammered with a barrage of "why don't you stick with your guns and space marines because that's all there is to your console" or even better "we enjoy those games because we are true gamers and blah blah blah and we like know more than you because we are Nintendo fans".

Funny how everyone had high (not even high... just some) expectations for the Wii and now that's it's sucking hard, well guess what it was our own fault all along because we were expecting too much. Funny how that goes.




Because in the end, this is all that matters:

360
AAAA 1
AAA 18
AA 96

PS3
AAAA 2
AAA 14
AA 58

Wii
AAAA 0
AAA 7
AA 27RuinedMachine

So it matter what aonother person review is? :| Now that sales agurement sales have also been the person who wins sales... its been going on since nes. so dont tell me it dosent mean anything when ps2 did it ps1 did it. sega did it. I am sorry so when did you ever for or speak for Nintendo? All you doing is cirtizieing it beacuase you are a fanboy. This is a fault statement just beacuse the games dont appeal to you dosent mean there arent any good games out for wii owners. this is a stupid agurment and wrong and you damn well konw. it. Dude you sound like a borken reocod who wont shutup. there are quality games out but like i said before you too closed mindid to even know where they are. Well another lie... i am not going to go this agurment with you. You're a hug fanboy cant you tell?

this is the most stupides ridouclsous agurmeent... guess what i have bought for the 360... ntohing same with the wii.. so i guess that means 360 games are not quality enough for me to buy them.

I bought far cry 2-360 and quatam of solonce on the wii.. and that was it. so dont go around bashing people beacuase you dont like the system and only think wii owners love wii games i enjoy plenty of others games two. but you're opioion is so basis is not even funnny.

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#83 HarlockJC
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Because in the end, this is all that matters:

360
AAAA 1
AAA 18
AA 96

PS3
AAAA 2
AAA 14
AA 58

Wii
AAAA 0
AAA 7
AA 27RuinedMachine
And here I though it was how much fun a person had playing a game and not what it scored. Even though games like LO, FE, MP3 and Lost Winds are not on that list it did not keep the game from being any less fun.

Also I do know more about gaming than you. 8)

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#84 fbigent34
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[QUOTE="RuinedMachine"] Because in the end, this is all that matters:

360
AAAA 1
AAA 18
AA 96

PS3
AAAA 2
AAA 14
AA 58

Wii
AAAA 0
AAA 7
AA 27HarlockJC

And here I though it was how much fun a person had playing a game and not what it scored. Even though games like LO, FE, MP3 and Lost Winds are not on that list it did not keep the game from being any less fun.

Also I do know more about gaming than you. 8)

But all he is doing the same thing as people who use sales. He going by the opioion of the review to get the game. Just like the sales of the wii want people to keep getting the wii beacause its hard to find for some still.
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#85 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="RuinedMachine"] Because in the end, this is all that matters:

360
AAAA 1
AAA 18
AA 96

PS3
AAAA 2
AAA 14
AA 58

Wii
AAAA 0
AAA 7
AA 27fbigent34

And here I though it was how much fun a person had playing a game and not what it scored. Even though games like LO, FE, MP3 and Lost Winds are not on that list it did not keep the game from being any less fun.

Also I do know more about gaming than you. 8)

But all he is doing the same thing as people who use sales. He going by the opioion of the review to get the game. Just like the sales of the wii want people to keep getting the wii beacause its hard to find for some still.

The old saying 2 wrongs does not make a right.

Just because others may use sales has a reason that games may be good does not give another person to say only reviews make a system good. With that being said. Sales matter for the real world but games only matter to gamers. There are great games on all three systems which have scored below AA to say otherwise is a joke at best.

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[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Um, I haven't bought a Wii game in a long time, but there are a few I plan to get when I have the time and money, those being:

de Blob

LostWinds

Blast Works

and

World of Goo

Wow imo that list looks terrible, but if you enjoy those games by all means get them. Looks like the Gamecube all over again, but worst.

All of those games he listed are unique, creative and mostly original, I don't have a problem with that.
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hahah that guy was so true about the 10 or so people who defend wii's

 

but guys seriously dont sell yoru wii's heres why

 

Original Zelda!!! the creater already has said that a new zelda is in the making and THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT ORIGINAL. Now for me thats a instant sale especially considereing how good wind waker was ( a very very original game )

 

Just dont buy any shovelware and get a wii for nintendo GOOD 1st party games and all will be well. ( as long as you own a 360 also lol)

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[QUOTE="RuinedMachine"] Because in the end, this is all that matters:

360
AAAA 1
AAA 18
AA 96

PS3
AAAA 2
AAA 14
AA 58

Wii
AAAA 0
AAA 7
AA 27HarlockJC

And here I though it was how much fun a person had playing a game and not what it scored. Even though games like LO, FE, MP3 and Lost Winds are not on that list it did not keep the game from being any less fun.

Also I do know more about gaming than you. 8)




There you go again redirecting the argument negating the concept of quality.
Yes games are about fun, everyone knows that. But SW is not about how much fun you can have with a game.



SW was never about who can sell the most. Sheep can try to say this as much as they want but it's not true. Sheep talk about how the NES won, the SNES won, the PS1 won, the PS2 won because they got the most marketshare. That is not true.

SW is about what system is the best. And a videogame system can only be defined by the games it has.

SW is and has always been about quality and quantity of games. Not sales and attach rates and million sellers and low expectations and secondary consoles. SW is about the best.
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The Wii is a gaming failure. That's all there is to it.

There are about 10 users left in SW who defend it in every thread where it is mentionned. The same 10 or so users that are in this thread repeating the same old arguments we've heard before.

Crazy insane arguments that make absolutely no sense from our perspective, from gamers' perspective.

Like sales. Sheep have already decided that the winner this gen is the Wii because of its sales while everyone else is sort of looking at each other going "wth... sales? Really?" Yes the Wii is a commercial success for Nintendo. It's not a gaming success for gamers at all though.

The Wii has a pathetic library. It's been out two years now with its massive sales and almost nothing has come out of it. Nothing. Which is made all too clear when those same 10 users I was talking about defend the Wii's library with Wiiware and VC titles that supposedly keep them satisfied until the next Zelda hits. Whenever that's going to be. And either way how pathetic is that, just to keep hoping for the next big Nintendo franchise to hit while PS3 and 360 owners have so many games from both first and 3rd party to chose from.

Sheep have really gone haywire this gen. To them, it's like there's no concept of quality anymore. And if anyone even suggests quality, then they are shut down because it's "subjective". I remember a time where people use to be able to tell good games from bad ones and where people actually agreed on the quality of most titles. I mean sure there are always fanboys who will say that Halo, MGS or Mario are garbage but most gamers know these games are good even if they are not for them. Now good games are tossed aside for million sellers and everytime someone mentions how good or how bad a game is, they get shut down because that's their 'opinion'.

But don't you dare question the sheep's opinion though. All those games on the Wii that nobody cares about except for sheep, they're all gems. They're all diamonds in the rough. And if anyone questions the quality of those games they get hammered with a barrage of "why don't you stick with your guns and space marines because that's all there is to your console" or even better "we enjoy those games because we are true gamers and blah blah blah and we like know more than you because we are Nintendo fans".

Funny how everyone had high (not even high... just some) expectations for the Wii and now that's it's sucking hard, well guess what it was our own fault all along because we were expecting too much. Funny how that goes.




Because in the end, this is all that matters:

360
AAAA 1
AAA 18
AA 96

PS3
AAAA 2
AAA 14
AA 58

Wii
AAAA 0
AAA 7
AA 27RuinedMachine
well, i agree with a lot that you say. you make some good points, but here is my 2 cents. yes, i'm one of those crazy folks who still defend the Wii. here is why, and i won't use the sales argument. i am a gamer since the days of PONG when i was about 4 years old. i have pretty much had every system besides the Vectrex and Intellivision (yes, i've even owned a NEO-GEO, 3DO, and Philips CDi). 1. this leads me to reason 1. on every single one of these systems, there have been titles worth owning the system for. not just one title, but many. the same holds true for the Wii. the same held true for the gamecube. it was a commercial failure, but it had some great titles that made it completely worth the purchase price. 2. nintendo's first party titles. this is one of the biggest reasons. they still remain, in my humble opinion, t;he finest game developing teams of the present or past. to make a game like super mario galaxy, on gear not nearly as powerful as MS or Sony's offerings, and have it win GOTY tells me that they are doing something right. i liken the nintendo flagship titles to disney world. there are scarier, higher, faster, more extreme rides out there compared to the magic kingdom, but like nintendo, the way they pull it together just "works" really well. 3. playing with friends. while i won't use the sales argument, i will use "teh casuals" argument (a term i've always thought utterly ridiculous, that shouldn't even be uttered by anyone except for professional gamers that make a living from playing. anyone else, yeah, your just as casual as the rest of us). my wife hates videogames, can't stand them. she loves wii sports and wii fit. sure, its not what a lot of gamers enjoy, but creating accessibility to other people who might never experience the medium tells me that it might further pull these "casuals" into games with more depth and difficulty. it does happen. a friend of mine played in a Wii tennis tournament at my house. she bought a Wii 1 week later. a month later, she bought a 360 and enjoys COD4 multiplayer just as much as Zelda: TP and MP3. 4. innovation. yes, i know motion control has been done before. however, games like wii music and animal crossing, endless ocean, etc. bring new ideas of the definition of a game to the table. is it for everyone? no, of course not. but think of it this way: we would not have the FPS, RPG, RTS, or any other modern genre without innovation. sometimes rudimentary concepts spring forth fantastic ideas not yet realized. 5. quirky games. this kind of goes along with number 4, but i'll put it here anyway. lets face it, the Wii has a ton of shovelware (so did the PS2, for that matter). however, if you look through the junk, great games like No More Heroes, De Blob, and Boom Blox come through. one of the advantages of the Wii is cheap development costs. this guarantees a lot of crappy games, but it also gives lesser known, lesser funded developers the chance to take risks and create something unique that they might not be able to feasibly do on a 360 or PS3. so, there you have it, my humble argument for the Nintendo Wii. is it a platform for everyone? nope. if you like shooters and online multiplayer, would it be your console of choice? nah. is it technologically comparable to the MS or Sony? definitely not. are there still reasons to own one? definitely.
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I have lots of games I could talk about. Unfortunately they don't have guns, shooting, and violence, so I'd be ridiculed for even mentioning them.AlexSays
Haha true. Still I'll try and help. I'm looking forward to MadWorld, The Conduit, Monster Hunter 3, Punch-Out!!, PES09,Sin and Punishment 2, LostWinds2 for 09 For 08 I still want to buy De Blob, LostWinds, Tetris Party, COD:WAW, Shaun Whites Snowboarding, Guitar Hero 4, Fifa 09 and so on for 2008 but unfortunately I don't have that kind of money. And I haven't even bought games like Okami, Mario Kart Wii and Bully: Scolarship edition for the wii yet.
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De Blob came out in September, World of Goo came out shortly after. Animal Crossing came out in November. Little King's Story, MadWorld, Fragile, Deadly Creatures, Punchout!! Wii, Skycrawlers, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, Fragile, Muramasa: The Demon Blade are all promising titles coming out relatively soon, all which will be of quality.
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One of my friends who is a Wii owner is talking about The Conduit a lot. FPS_Gamer123
hehe, the conduit is a joke compared to other current gen shooters. The sheep only like it because its technically better than many wii games and has 'good' graphics. hypocrites. it has world of goo and de blob, it has SOME games mentioning but not many if you think the other three systems are having AAA after AAA
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As a Wii owner, HELL NO. Maybe Tales of Symphonia 2, but it has been getting just decent scores. I'll still pick it up though.

But if I may, I'm going to steal the cows favorite line now. WAIT until 2009, cause that's when the Wii is gonna have some awesome games. :P
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[QUOTE="FPS_Gamer123"]One of my friends who is a Wii owner is talking about The Conduit a lot. thegoldenpoo
hehe, the conduit is a joke compared to other current gen shooters. The sheep only like it because its technically better than many wii games and has 'good' graphics. hypocrites. it has world of goo and de blob, it has SOME games mentioning but not many if you think the other three systems are having AAA after AAA

I really don't like it when they mention The Conduit. SMG still looks better. The Conduit has horrible art direction that keeps it from looking as good as it could have been. Plus, Wii owners should be hyping Little King's Story, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, Fragile, etc more than The Conduit..
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[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="FPS_Gamer123"]One of my friends who is a Wii owner is talking about The Conduit a lot. Haziqonfire
hehe, the conduit is a joke compared to other current gen shooters. The sheep only like it because its technically better than many wii games and has 'good' graphics. hypocrites. it has world of goo and de blob, it has SOME games mentioning but not many if you think the other three systems are having AAA after AAA

I really don't like it when they mention The Conduit. SMG still looks better. The Conduit has horrible art direction that keeps it from looking as good as it could have been. Plus, Wii owners should be hyping Little King's Story, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, Fragile, etc more than The Conduit..

you sir, are most correct. i take my hat off to you.

yeah the conduit is horrible looking, do you remember the thread that stated the devs wanted it too look like a 360 game.... :lol:

the art is horrible you are right, the colour pallet is garish. its like stepping back in time 4 or 5 years in graphics terms.

 http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/901/901464/the-conduit-20080821073611167.jpg

ewwwww........ Uber jaggies

 now for Half Life 2 (2004) compare against; 

 Half-Life 2 Picture

 

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no its for people that have lives... i dont think their will be a good game for it any time soon
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[QUOTE="FPS_Gamer123"]One of my friends who is a Wii owner is talking about The Conduit a lot. thegoldenpoo
hehe, the conduit is a joke compared to other current gen shooters. The sheep only like it because its technically better than many wii games and has 'good' graphics. hypocrites. it has world of goo and de blob, it has SOME games mentioning but not many if you think the other three systems are having AAA after AAA

That doesn't make sense. If Wii owners were interested in a video game because of its graphics then they wouldn't of gotten a Wii in the first place. They would've gone the 360 or PS3 route. Personally, I think Wii owners are interested in The Conduit because they are hoping it will provide a good gameplay element that can not be had on the other consoles. The fact that its graphics are better then most Wii games is only the icing on the cake.
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="RuinedMachine"] Because in the end, this is all that matters:

360
AAAA 1
AAA 18
AA 96

PS3
AAAA 2
AAA 14
AA 58

Wii
AAAA 0
AAA 7
AA 27RuinedMachine

And here I though it was how much fun a person had playing a game and not what it scored. Even though games like LO, FE, MP3 and Lost Winds are not on that list it did not keep the game from being any less fun.

Also I do know more about gaming than you. 8)




There you go again redirecting the argument negating the concept of quality.
Yes games are about fun, everyone knows that. But SW is not about how much fun you can have with a game.



SW was never about who can sell the most. Sheep can try to say this as much as they want but it's not true. Sheep talk about how the NES won, the SNES won, the PS1 won, the PS2 won because they got the most marketshare. That is not true.

SW is about what system is the best. And a videogame system can only be defined by the games it has.

SW is and has always been about quality and quantity of games. Not sales and attach rates and million sellers and low expectations and secondary consoles. SW is about the best.

Maybe you should post a link to the SW rules sheet so we can clear out any confusion for people who don't know what console wars is all about.
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to be fair, the competition didn't have a game out for the entire beginning half of 08

so early 08 was pretty decent so long as everything in 09 stays on track it wont stay bleak

voxware00
Burnout Paradise for PS3/360 AAA right at the start of '08. Or how about the AAAA GTA 4 for both systems a little bit later in the year? 8.5 shooter Battlefield for each? Condemned 2 & RB6 Vegas 2 in March? Both 8.5 .. Rez HD 8.5 in Jan on XBLA.... Also Bourne Conspiracy, GRiD, Top Spin 3, & Devil May Cry 4. Plus MGS4 for PS3 & Ninja Gaiden 2 on 360. All those games in the first half of '08
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[QUOTE="RuinedMachine"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"] And here I though it was how much fun a person had playing a game and not what it scored. Even though games like LO, FE, MP3 and Lost Winds are not on that list it did not keep the game from being any less fun.

 

Also I do know more about gaming than you. 8)

vdastampede




There you go again redirecting the argument negating the concept of quality.
Yes games are about fun, everyone knows that. But SW is not about how much fun you can have with a game.



SW was never about who can sell the most. Sheep can try to say this as much as they want but it's not true. Sheep talk about how the NES won, the SNES won, the PS1 won, the PS2 won because they got the most marketshare. That is not true.

SW is about what system is the best. And a videogame system can only be defined by the games it has.

SW is and has always been about quality and quantity of games. Not sales and attach rates and million sellers and low expectations and secondary consoles. SW is about the best.

Maybe you should post a link to the SW rules sheet so we can clear out any confusion for people who don't know what console wars is all about.

 

 

Welcome to System Wars

System Wars is a thread dedicated to the discussion and debate of systems, platforms, and games. It is also the only forum on GameSpot in which discussion on which system is the "best" is allowed. Cross-platform debate, comparissons of the performance of multiplatform titles, run-downs of sales numbers, predictions of review scores, and heated debates on company tactics or the latest gaming company news, are all typical topics of conversation in System Wars.





I don't see anything in there that says the system with the most sales wins anything.

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