Do you assume that if a game is older, it has outdated gameplay?

@PAL360: We will just have to agree to disagree.

I still replay games from the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th generations often and I still think that they are special and there are very few modern games that I would put in that same league. The 2nd generation was before I was even born and I only really started digging into the stuff from that generation in recent years so can't say that nostalgia is responsible for my fondness for those games. There are many games from the other retro generations as well that I never got a chance to play when I was younger and I only played them for the first time in recent years, so again, this isn't all about nostalgia: I just think games from those generations were better. I have played all but one of the games that you mentioned in your post and none of them would make my top 100 of all time list.

And I prefer the length of games to be increased by high difficulty and high replayability appeal rather than tons of filler content. You say that one of your favorite games was only 15 minutes long. Personally, if a game is great enough to become one of my favorite games of all time, I'd rather spend my money on some of the most fun 15 minutes that I will ever have in any game over a much longer game that doesn't offer me as much fun. I don't like how some gamers judge the value of a game by length nowadays; that's what pushes developers to add a bunch of filler content just to increase the length and all that filler content is then what makes the game start feeling like a chore to complete instead of being fun.

Those shorter classic games generally have much higher replayability appeal as well, so while there are a lot of games from those generations that can be completed in around 1 hour; that's one of the things that I love about them. I love that when I have a spare hour to kill, I can put in a classic game that I played many times before but it will still be able to keep me entertained for the next hour like it has been doing for many years. With many modern games, that spare hour that I have will be taken up by having to suffer through the long crappy tutorial that doesn't offer any fun. And between the long drawn-out tutorials, boring filler content that is only there to increase the length, and lack of any real challenge, I can't imagine that there will be many modern games that I will ever want to replay like I do with so many retro games. So while retro games tend to be short in content, once challenge and replayability appeal is taking into account, they end up offering many hours of entertainment that is timeless without all of the BS that goes along with many modern games.

While the game-worlds, quality stories and gameplay mechanics surely can be timeless. Where I find gaming has significantly progressed, and especially console gaming, is the way the controllers and controls now function.

The fluidity is far beyond what it used to be. The Xbox one controller for example has independent rumble motors located at different locations. Games that especially make use of this are Forza 7 and Halo 5 to name a few.

This is just an example ofcourse. The Playstation-VR, the improved mouse and keyboard acoustics and overall presentation in games have all improved drastically. The medium of film and gaming, are slowly but surely blending together.

That is unfortunately true and that right there is another thing that I don't like about modern gaming. I'm getting so sick of movie "games". It disappoints me how a preview for a "game" that shows 10 minutes of nothing but cinematics without a single second of actual gameplay can get hyped to the moon nowadays.

I assume if it's newer, it has out dated gameplay. lol movie games.

I'm about 11 hours into Odin Sphere Leifthrasir right now(PS4 version), so no. Also the original StarCraft will never get old. Still play N64 regularly. But out of the tens of thousands of games released, I'd only go back to replay a few. Too many new games I'm trying to get through.

Not really, a lot of the times it's the actual gameplay that's dumbed down in modern games. Like the super automated platforming in Uncharted for instance.

@storm_of_swords: I can see your predicament, but at the same time there are so many good gameplay centered games out there as well. The variety and number of games out these days is enormous. I can't count the backlog of good games I still have left to play.

Movie games are just a genre, but I have to say that Sony's first party line of games that fall under that genre do an excellent job at storytelling. The characters have never felt so alive. I recently played the first 3 hours of Uncharted 4, and the setpieces that game sets up for you are brilliant. It's puzzle style gameplay with a ton of good characters and brilliant animation work.

In the end there is something to do and love for any type of gamer. I am more of an arcade gamer myself and gravitate towards Microsoft's first party line (good ol' Forza, Gears, Halo), Battlefront 2 (underrated) and AC Origins/Witcher 3. Tons of excellent gameplay to be had there.

Not even close... In fact FPS games since Fear and Half Life 2 and Crysis have been going down hill in terms of AI and game play mechanics.

@Grey_Eyed_Elf: Yup Call Of Duty ruined nearly an entire generation of shooters

@NoodleFighter: Pretty much, its why to get my shooter fix I turned towards games like PUBG... Playing against 100 people who are trying to survive using their shooting skills and own level of tactics to win is the most rewarding shooting experience I have had in years. Call of Duty and Battlefield you die several seconds after spawning at times... Its just not fun to me anymore.

A single player shooters just lost the spark, now its just run to check point and kill several waves of people and move forward. Half Life 2 was to this day the the best single player FPS experience I ever had... From the Ant Lion level to Ravenholm it just blew me away, and Fear with the AI and and gun play it was shooting perfection, Crysis gave you a huge level and abilities to attack the map with what ever way you wanted from any directions it was incredible and looked stunning.

Oh you definitely should give them a play full play through. FEAR is one of my all time favourite FPS games... Those 3 are all in my top 5 FPS games ever.

@storm_of_swords: I still love to play my old consoles and games, i never said they were bad now :/ I said that they are not as special as i remembered, since i have been spoiled by hundreds of equally good games.

As for arcade games, i also love them but i don't get the problem, they are still everywhere. That's the good thing about modern gaming. Now we have state of the art massive 3D games like The Witcher 3, Elite Dangerous or Horizon Zero Down, but also classic plug and play arcade games like Nex Machina, Cursed Castilla or Sonic Mania.

Again, it's called diversity, and we have more now than ever before.

I'm not trying to force you to like this generation, of course. Just explaining you why i love it.