Do you care if next gen blocks used games?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]Yeah who cares about businesses like redbox and gamefly that would lose tons of money not to mention the employee cuts that would follow from a stupid idea from this. Yeah oh yeah it is a great thing....blackace

Think of the money that would go to its rightful place... the gaming industry.

lol, no.

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Think of the money that would go to its rightful place... the gaming industry.

tenaka2

lol, no.

I don't really care since I have only a marginal interest in the next gen consoles, and I'm not even sure if I'm going to buy one. If blocking used games is something that worries you, then I suggest switching to PC, where you can at least use Steam!Timstuff

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Think of the money that would go to its rightful place... the gaming industry.

tenaka2

lol, no.

You don't know anything about the gaming industry and how it works. I do. The industry will lose millions. No question about it. Retailers and companies like Gamestop, Gamefly, Blockbuster would lose millions in sales. This is why I doubt this will happen. If it does, remember what I said. lol

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[QUOTE="blackace"]

lol, no.

blackace

The Call of Dudebros will all be lined up around the block to buy the newest COD game and they probably won't even know that they can't sell it back to the store. When they find out they can't trade it in, they'll either just put it back on their shelf or throw it into the landfill and pollute the earth some more, and then 6 months later they'll still be back in line to buy the next one.

I'm guessing you work in game, My name is on a number of PC, Xbox and PS2 titles.

Nope, couldn't care less.

Gamer Selling His Collection for Over $500,000 on eBay

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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Think of the money that would go to its rightful place... the gaming industry.

Timstuff

lol, no.

The Call of Dudebros will all be lined up around the block to buy the newest COD game and they probably won't even know that they can't sell it back to the store. When they find out they can't trade it in, they'll either just put it back on their shelf or throw it into the landfill and pollute the earth some more, and then 6 months later they'll still be back in line to buy the next one.

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

The Call of Dudebros will all be lined up around the block to buy the newest COD game and they probably won't even know that they can't sell it back to the store. When they find out they can't trade it in, they'll either just put it back on their shelf or throw it into the landfill and pollute the earth some more, and then 6 months later they'll still be back in line to buy the next one.tenaka2

I'm guessing you work in game, My name is on a number of PC, Xbox and PS2 titles.

[QUOTE="fueled-system"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Think of the money that would go to its rightful place... the gaming industry.

tenaka2

I get the majority of my games on Steam, it wouldn't be worth the hassle of re-selling a game I paid 5.99 for. Plus having hardcopies aropund is a pain in the ass especially when you move around as much as I do.

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[QUOTE="blackace"]

That's what PC gamers do. Console gamers don't do that and they will definitely know. Some gamers may not know immediately, but once they find out, expect a sharp drop in sales across the board.

blackace

I'm guessing you work in game, My name is on a number of PC, Xbox and PS2 titles.

I agree with you on this 'Retailers and companies like Gamestop, Gamefly, Blockbuster would lose millions in sales.' however I don't see them as part of the games industry.

I am not suggesting a 60 -70 dollar non tradable game, however there are alternatives, initial game prices could be reduced. It is estimated that some used copies go through 4+ users, the profit of which goes directly to a retailer, its simply no good for the industry.

Yes because it's a dreadful idea. I don't buy pre-owned games, but I do like to borrow games off my brother if I don't feel I want to pay full price aswell.

Not being able to get games for cheaper, trade in games you don't like so that you can get some of your money back, and borrow/lend games from/to friends would be extremely annoying. There are a ton of negatives and very few positives that come with blocking used games.

I will not buy a console that won't let me buy used games. The only reason I put up with it on the PC is because most games are cheper or go on sale at some point on steam.

I don't buy used games anyway so I don't care.

YES, I care.

I personnally don't give a damn, since I haven't bought a game used in years. Still, I think that would suck for people who game on a budget. Would really be a dick move by Sony and /or MS.

I buy all my games new, so doesn't affect me.ImBatman-

[QUOTE="ImBatman-"]I buy all my games new, so doesn't affect me.full_disclosure

*giggles*

Digital downloads are the way of the future. Switching disks is for the filthy unwashed.

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I'm guessing you work in game, My name is on a number of PC, Xbox and PS2 titles.

tenaka2

I agree with you on this 'Retailers and companies like Gamestop, Gamefly, Blockbuster would lose millions in sales.' however I don't see them as part of the games industry.

I am not suggesting a 60 -70 dollar non tradable game, however there are alternatives, initial game prices could be reduced. It is estimated that some used copies go through 4+ users, the profit of which goes directly to a retailer, its simply no good for the industry.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] Well, if you're a developer, you should know. This will be bad for all businesses including the Publishers and Developers alike.blackace

I agree with you on this 'Retailers and companies like Gamestop, Gamefly, Blockbuster would lose millions in sales.' however I don't see them as part of the games industry.

I am not suggesting a 60 -70 dollar non tradable game, however there are alternatives, initial game prices could be reduced. It is estimated that some used copies go through 4+ users, the profit of which goes directly to a retailer, its simply no good for the industry.

They're just retailers, they have nothing to do with the gaming industry.

They're just retailers, they have nothing to do with the gaming industry.

percuvius2

I think it's a terrible thing to do to consumers if it's true. I'll have no part of it if that happens. People fail to realize that there is much more to this than simply not being able to buy used games, it means you can't share games with friends or family, can't play the game on multiple systems, can't sell your game if it's not good.

 

I also think consumer confidence in the value of games will go down and make people afraid to spend so much money on games they might end up not liking, and getting stuck with it.

Bigboi500

One of the few times we can fully agree. 

I think it's a terrible thing to do to consumers if it's true. I'll have no part of it if that happens. People fail to realize that there is much more to this than simply not being able to buy used games, it means you can't share games with friends or family, can't play the game on multiple systems, can't sell your game if it's not good.

 

I also think consumer confidence in the value of games will go down and make people afraid to spend so much money on games they might end up not liking, and getting stuck with it.

Bigboi500

Also just think what will happen if your Online Account is stolen. Getting your account stolen is terrible in that you lose your friends list, all your achievements, downloadable content, and possibly some credit card information but now you would be required to repurchase your entire video game library for that particular console...

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No, I wouldnt care, id be happy for the developers. Used games are worse than piracy, a used game sale IS a lost sale for the company that owns it. It will also stop companies lending games out that dont belong to them and then charging for it ( ie. rentals ).

bezza2011

Don't you realise that many of the stores your'll buy from will go out of business, game rental shops will cease to exist, 1000's will be out of there jobs with no other work to go into, due to the lack of jobs already. no offence but there being greedy, to have a used game means that someone in the first place has bought it new, and it is theres to do what they want with it, if they stop the used games then that is our freedom to sell on what we have bought which makes it that we are pretty much only renting it ourselves, which is greed. the only hingthe should do is charge for the online parts of games, they cannot charge people for playing a second hand offline game.

think about it if they start charging people to have to get activation codes to play the game, then no one will want to buy off someone due to already having to pay another fee on top, which means second hand games will have to come down in price, they need to find a happey medium, otherwise there putting alot of people at risk in losing there jobs.

second hand cars are a massive business, you don't see the main car dealers kicking up a fuss do you. plus second hand games at the moment are ok, seriously back in the days of the amiga or the commadore all it ever was, were copied games, they were on floppy discs and cassettes lol, i don't see why there so bothered now it was worse then.

I dont buy from stores, stores stopped catering to my needs a long time ago when they started cashing in on used games and making 100% profit from software products that someone else spent time, money and effort to make. I am fully aware of how they will go out of business and i dont care. Its a hole they dug too deep to get out of and its about time they fell in it.

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I agree with you on this 'Retailers and companies like Gamestop, Gamefly, Blockbuster would lose millions in sales.' however I don't see them as part of the games industry.

I am not suggesting a 60 -70 dollar non tradable game, however there are alternatives, initial game prices could be reduced. It is estimated that some used copies go through 4+ users, the profit of which goes directly to a retailer, its simply no good for the industry.

percuvius2

They're just retailers, they have nothing to do with the gaming industry.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] The game industry will actually lose million (maybe billions) if this actually happens. Timstuff

lol, no.

I buy a couple used games so it would suck. I wouldn't outright deny myself of a system though because of it.

Blacking used games huh?

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On the negative side!:

1. More expensive games.
2. No more sharing games.
3. Certain games will become harder to find.
4. A lot of people will stop supporting developers and publishers.

I for one will stop supporting these companies if they block used games. That will be the final nail in the cofin. It'll be time for me to go 100% retro. I'm not gonna give money to these corrupt companies who only want to exploit the consumer as much as possible. No class.

Getting rid of used games will do nothing but HURT the industry. Fvcking dumbasses.

yep no used games means if i buy a new game that breaks some yrs down the line and their out of print,

how the heck would i play it if it cant read used games ,

and if they do this - i fully expect nintendo to take the entire industry away from them because their business practice so far (on disc dlc etc) is already tedious 

its bad enough to shell out ten extra dollars to play multiplayer if bought used , but blocking the  entire game thats insult to injury

It's bad for the industry.

I can't think of how many times I've discovered a new developer, or a new game series through used games, borrowing, renting, or even "piracy", that have led me to purchase/support many more future titles from that same developer/series.

Valve can personally thank me for the 145 games I own on Steam (15 of which are Valve's), and the five or so people I helped get into PC gaming who have also supported Valve by buying hundreds of games through Steam all because I did NOT give them money for Half Life when it came out. I did buy the Half Life collection a year or so later when I could afford it, and even bought the PS2 version too.

Removing used games only prevents people from discovering games.

Not really!

Nope. Gamers who buy used games are just as bad as pirates.

I do. I will not buy any console that blocks used games.

Nope. Gamers who buy used games are just as bad as pirates.

StrongBlackVine

Like buying a used car, damn thieves.

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Nope. Gamers who buy used games are just as bad as pirates.

percuvius2

Like buying a used car, damn thieves.

Intellectually property can and should be licensed. You can't put Windows and other PC software on any computer you want just because you own the disc.

I do. I will not buy any console that blocks used games.

DarkLink77

Ah man you're on that poverty state of mind?

It's bad for the industry.

I can't think of how many times I've discovered a new developer, or a new game series through used games, borrowing, renting, or even "piracy", that have led me to purchase/support many more future titles from that same developer/series.

Valve can personally thank me for the 145 games I own on Steam (15 of which are Valve's), and the five or so people I helped get into PC gaming who have also supported Valve by buying hundreds of games through Steam all because I did NOT give them money for Half Life when it came out. I did buy the Half Life collection a year or so later when I could afford it, and even bought the PS2 version too.

 

Removing used games only prevents people from discovering games.

Ly_the_Fairy

Yep. Most ppl tend to see used games and piracy as a bad thing. Sure it is, if you want to get all moral about it. For the business side of things however its far from a problem, but some devs tend to think otherwise.

If you got pirated games it usually means:

1. You got a game not worth its price.

2. You got a game that's too easy to pirate.

Its a telltale sign that you are not at the right price point. You could say that people pirate because it is free, but I'm almost guaranteed without a doubt that most ppl are noble about it and will buy if its right in price and content. People don't like to break the rules on spite, especially on something that is not so mainstream unlike pirating music and movies.

For used games its almost the same deal. If you remove used games it just means you are alienating users. Not every user just plays used games, they mix it up. The thing is some ppl tend to like used a bit more or are pretty 50/50 especially if they are on a budget. That means that if you deny used games, those users won't buy your system. That then makes it so you lost a potential customer that could have bought a few games new. 

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I do. I will not buy any console that blocks used games.

StrongBlackVine

Ah man you're on that poverty state of mind?

cooperation's taking away peoples choice is awful i don't see why anyone would stand for it. I hope they get sued for billions if they do it.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

I do. I will not buy any console that blocks used games.

DarkLink77

Ah man you're on that poverty state of mind?

Crying about used games is for poor folk.