Do you consider Sony vs Microsoft a great rivalry?

The PS2 was the most powerful console for 20 months until the xbox arrived, it wasn't like the xbox release on March 2000,it release in November 2001 the PS2 was almost 2 years when the xbox landed,so yeah sony had the most powerful console before the xbox even existed.

The PS2 Install base was already set before the Xbox arrived. Thinking about it Sony have won every generation v Xbox. I think it's a given every generation Xbox just doesn't have the install base as a platform.

Xbox does what Phony'dont. :P

I think Sega vs Nintendo since it was a good healthy rivalry and gamers weren't anywhere near as hostile to each other about it.

Microsoft new system Xbox One confusing gamers with used game policies & its high price tag didn’t help either. It didn’t take long for Sony to capitalize on the frustration of gamers as they announce the PS4. Every gamer took their anger on Microsoft with PS4.

It was good last gen but now there's just no competetion. There's just no reason to get a XBone anymore unless you like playing old games like every Xbox fanboys here does

@davillain-: still unable to learn the difference between then & than?

Something I don't like is MS congratulating sony with milestones and games they release. If they are rivals it doesn't happen.

Sega vs Nintendo was the best. The hardware was unique and the libraries were vast and varied. Now we are fighting over which AMD box is better (they’re insanely similar) while playing a few exclusives each year. The shit is dull

Nah, Generation 3 and 4 were the Golden Years of gaming in my opinion. The Greatest Generations to ever grow up on video games, period!

Yes it did. Sorry to make all the cows all butthurt. But when it mattered, the 360 outsold the PS3. You all know it - there are several "but... but... but... the PS3 was still being sold for <insert number here> after the PS4, so it caught up!" and "but... but... but... the 360 failure rates skew the numbers!"

All bush!t - the 360 outsold the PS3, and sold more copies of almost all 3rd party titles. Deal with it and enjoy the PS4's success.

If the xbox wasn't as strong as it was in relation to the PS2, the PS3 would've never had the RSX added to it, and if the x360 didn't match PS3 hardware despite being released one year sooner, the PS4 wouldn't have been as strong, nor would it be as accessible to developers. FYI Xbox is the context of the post mean the xbox "family" not just the original xbox. The specter of the Xbox looming in the background has forced Sony to up their game on the hardware front the past two generations.

Or you like the controller better, or the ecosystem better, or you just don't feel the need to get a PS4 for the handful of games that aren't on the other system. 90% of the library is shared between the two. I would rather miss out on the few games I can't play for now, than playing all the other games with the dual shock.

@StormyJoe: the 360 did not outsell the PS3. “When it mattered” LOL. Even with the heavily inflated RROD numbers, the 360 was outsold. Deal with it.

There was never a rivalry.PS2 destroyed Xbox, PS3 with myriad of problems and Sony in the verge of bankruptcy surpassed X360 in the very end with a whole year less in the market and PS4 is on another level this gen...

What rivarly you talking about ?

Not sure how 1 sided ass kicking can be considered a rivalry.

I don't really know about rivalry. I see Microsoft more as a warning to Sony to not F!!cK up and use some good hardware hence the Cell and PS4. PS2 couldn't handle anything like Halo when Xbox came out so it pushed Sony. Xbox came default with an HDD and ethernet, Sony followed. Microsoft started an ecosystem with Xbox Live and Sony had to follow suit. This gen, Microsoft threw a big amount of eggs into backwards compatibility for this gen (Sony has had hardware BC but the PS3 screwed all that up so they have to leave that one out and pretty much reset) but I'm sure next gen Sony is going to go big into BC. Again, MS pushed with Xbox One X. Regardless of whether you like it or not, it's the strongest console out right now and the majority of the time, multiplats are better on it. What is this going to do? It's going to make sure Sony doesn't screw up with the PS5 and make sure it doesn't turn out like a PRO.

In a nutshell, from the beginning, here is what happened, MS made a console out of off the shelf PC parts and made it x86 based. Sony is now using off the shelf parts and is now x86 based. No difference between them now other than exclusives, controller, and their OS, UI ecosystem.

So you guys can thank Microsoft for pushing Sony. You can also thank Microsoft for paying for online. That's the bummer. The free games and deals though soften the blow a little though.

I like Sony still. I just use them for the Single Player exclusives. I'm not really a fan of their UI as far as the store, groups, parties, and chat is considered. I think MS has that down better. Just my preference.

I LOL'd at this one. Pure cow denial right there...

What do you mean denial ? When exactly there was a rivalry ? Last generation when Sony was in the verge of bankruptcy and released one of the most overpriced and problematic consoles ever released 1 year after X360 ? And even then in the end sold more ? Come on ...

Sony in the biggest financial pressure ever, PS3 overpriced and problematic, PS3 otherwise massive exclusives became multis ( tekken, FF to name a few ) , X360 became the lead console for many multis , X360 cheaper and in many cases better quality in multis, X360 was winning for many years straight the sales and hype war when in the meantime Sony almost bankrupted multiple times .. You call this RIVALRY for MS and X360 to rival Sony and PS3, someone under such circumstances and STILL LOSE in the end ?

If something proven last generation is the opposite !! That Xbox will never be a worthy rival. Period. If MS couldnt make it last generation, theyll never do it. PS vs Xbox ... rivals ... lol...

@StormyJoe: what denial bro? You’re the one who said Xbox 360 outsold the PS3. All data available says otherwise. Prove me wrong you sad beaten down lem.

MS have a leadership problem until that changes it won't be a competitive rivaly only a petty fanboy war.

I don't think having a couple of years where a competitor knocked Sony on their ass has been worth the toxicity culture the XBox brought with it nor the online fees.

Because the 360 *did* outsell the PS3 - for quite a few years. Check the sales data, my friend.

The 360 wasn't a worthy rival of the PS3? Dude, what are you on?

This lol

No it wasnt ... Having a whole company almost go bankrupt with a super problematic product out at the same time and still lose the war in the end ? You call that rivalry ? MS had to destroy Sony and PS3 not lose !!

You dont know what rival means i guess ?

@AzatiS: Well, technically Microsoft's Xbox 360 is a rival by nature of it competing within the same market against the PS3. It doesn't matter how successful they are at competing, a rival is simply a competitor.

"a person who is competing for the same object or goal as another, or who tries to equal or outdo another; competitor."

So by nature of competing, the Xbox 360 was a rival to the PS3. So it would actually be you who doesn't know what a rival is. :P

This gen its boring, they share 99% of the same library.... they are around the same range of power, they still have the same limitations they had last gen except RAM.

You basically have Sony fans beating a dead horse , because they can't take on PC Gaming still, and the Switch is dominating its own section of the market and will end up having more high quality exclusives in a shorter time frame.

@kali-b1rd: Well, I'm not sure about 99%

I eventually moved away from Xbox One gaming to PC gaming because there were an increasing number of Japanese games that did not release on the platform. There are quite a few third party games that did not release on Xbox One which are really good games. Again, mainly Japanese.

Nintendo VS Sega was far better a rivalry because we were able to argue why we liked said platform without being attacked by randoms online. Then after we gave our opinions we were done and played what was in front of us. Most kids in the early 90s only had one system. We were thankful that we got to play something different at a friend's house.

Giving people a voice on the internet was a poor choice in hindsight. Places like this board and various social media sites prove it every minute.

Not much of a rivalry.

It was a good rivalry last gen, but it’s hard to argue it isn’t one sided now. Hope MS steps it up. I think they do a lot of things better than Sony but you need the games.

I agree

Did any of you read the topic in the end of the day ? Let me repost.

Do you consider Sony vs Microsoft a great rivalry?

My original post :

There was never a rivalry.PS2 destroyed Xbox, PS3 with myriad of problems and Sony in the verge of bankruptcy surpassed X360 in the very end with a whole year less in the market and PS4 is on another level this gen...

What rivarly you talking about ?

Definition of rivalry : competition for the same objective or for superiority in the same field.

So again, rivalry who ? PS2 and PS4 destroyed Xbox and X1, its not even funny. So lets move to that specific generation then since theres no Sony vs MS rivalry at all in console gaming.

X360 had 1 year more in the market, stole PS exclusives because of PS3s low sales not because it did something great itself, was cheaper, was the leading platform for most multis because of PS3s fails, had better performance on most multis all that while PS3 was epicly overpriced in many regions around the globe, had nothing to show as far as games goes for 2 years, developers were struggling with its architecture, sales were sunking hard for many years straight sold with a considerable loss while SONY was in multibillion losses every single year of PS3s life. I mean thats how X360 was a rival last gen ? lol......

And beside all that undeniable facts i posted, PS3 manage to win ?!!!!! Really ?? You call that rivalry ? Seriously ? Losing from PS3 under those circumstances clearly showed that Xbox CANT compete with PS brand despite being close. Example ? Just think X360 being in PS3s shoes for a split of second and MS in Sonys ... just a split of a second and we all know the outcome ...

So before we call rivalry between MS and SONY, we think all generations, not a single one.. If from there we want to call rivalry a specific generation we need to think the whole picture not plain sales because Sony and PS3 were a very special case that generation. Everyone of you should understand that wasnt X360 actually rival PS3 ... was PS3 messing everything up and SONY in the verge of bankruptcy that made look X360 like is a rival. Theres a big difference there you all need to consider. And actually for X360 to lose to PS3 in the very end was as pathetic as it gets.

Back then i said this " If Ms with X360 couldnt end up winning Sony and PS3 under those nasty circumstances they were into, theyll never will. " IF i was considering MS and Xbox brand real rivals i would never say that.

@AzatiS: That's still not what a rivalry is. I appreciate the large post but you're still not familiar with the definition... even when you post it and misinterpret it.

They are competing for the same goal, that doesn't mean they have to be equals. As long as they are competing for the same objective, as the definition suggests, then they are rivals.

You could argue the 360 and PS3 was not a great rivalry, but that does not mean it wasn't a rivalry at all. They exist within the same market and are competing for the same audience. It's a rivalry. :P

So rivalry for you = Barcelona vs dead last team = the same as Barcelona vs Real madrid just because dead last, weakest team of the league having the same goals and compete for the same reason ... lol !

As for PS3 vs X360 is like having 2 boxers get into the ring, with one being fresh, at his peak and being happy for the money will make from this fight when the other knows he has to fight with one arm and one leg only, he has to pay to fight and he has to let his opponent hit him hard for a while before he can fight back aka everything humanly possible should be against him ... and STILL WINS in the end under the nastier circumstances possible !

And you guys calling that a rivalry !!! Keep doing that. That was way more shameful to me than X1s current state vs PS4.

To me theres no rivalry nor ever was. Sony vs ms , rivals ? Wii U was rival to PS4 for example ? Because with your logic still is despite being dead. It doesnt make any sense. Go to any sport or whatever that is and check what rivarly really means, its the same here. What you peeps trying to compare i dont get it. When Sony was at their weakest ever and even then still wins in the end .. proves the opposite ... theres no comparison between the two, the one is way and beyond.

@AzatiS: Well, it's the definition of the word.

Two parties competing in the same field for the same goal.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rivalry

It's not my logic. It's the definition of the word. What you are arguing is whether or not it was a great rivalry or an equal rivalry. You don't get to change what words mean. :P

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Besides all that, didn't the Xbox 360 end up selling more units than the PS3? So the idea that they weren't equal even though only approx. 200,000 units separated them seems a bit ridiculous to me. Your analogy doesn't even translate. It's not as if limbs can grow back; The PS3 reversed its handicaps by lowering the price and publishing better games. It's not as if it reached the end of the lifecycle in a sorry state so unless boxers can grow arms and legs back, your analogy doesn't work.

Pretending like Microsoft and the Xbox were on top of their game and had the world at their fingertips, in my opinion, dilutes the effort they had to go through to get there. The Xbox brand barely had a foothold in the market before the launch of the Xbox 360. The Xbox (original) barely outsold the Gamecube. What Microsoft accomplished with the Xbox 360 is equally as commendable as the turnaround Sony had with the Playstation 3 after a difficult launch. I think it's grossly unfair to act as though the Xbox 360 wasn't a major success and equal to its contemporaries like the PS3 when you consider Microsoft had to build that brand to popularity off the back of a console that was comparatively unpopular. The Xbox 360 made the Xbox brand into a real competitor. I think your assertions show legitimate bias.

Maybe a more accurate analogy, if we still want to use boxing as a theme is that the PS3 was a champion who had fallen from grace and had to prove he deserves his title while the Xbox 360 was a nobody who had to prove he even had the right to fight against the PS3. Both platforms succeeded against challenging odds. They both deserve praise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles

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VGChartz seems to have more updates sales that positions the PS3 ahead - again by a very small margin. http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

Rival definition :

1. .a person or thing competing with another for the same objective or for superiority in the same field of activity."he has no serious rival for the job"

   synonyms:

   competitor, opponent, contestant, contender, challenger; More

verb

1. 1.be or seem to be equal or comparable to

So please. It was Sony state and PS3s fault felt like X360 could be a rival, never forget that .. and still it lost.What kind of rival losing like that when his opponent is at the weakest possible state ? Oh wait, ill tell you .. he was never a rival to begin with thats why.

Again, look the boxing match example, is as accurate as it gets. It was X360 that had the generation leading, how is possible to call PS3 a king when wasnt even in the market while Sony was in a multibillion loss at the same time ? I dont know why you dont get in what state Sony and PS3 was for years, you bypassing this like nothing was wrong or nothing was a bid deal for Sony. It was the nastier crisis an console company had to face for decades now. No, i might say there was never such a financial crisis to any console manufacturer ever before. Do you peeps get that ?

So when we talking about rivals please ... take into account everything. Its like having 2 real rivals in any sport or whatever, the one being seriously wounded over and over and still cant win vs him. What kind of rival is this ? You tell me .... When in the world such rivalry ever existed aside few exceptions that had to do over other things than performances.

This generation sales didnt look good the first year for X1 and MS became a wreck. Wii U dead. Those are the rivals ? Oh come on. If something happened last generation, Sony proved to all whos the real shit and huge respect to what they did back then. Who on earth would do what they did under such financial crisis ? If those nasty circumstances, nastier than any company could ever imagine in the world actually, let some others like MS feel like rivals while still losing in the end ... what can i say. Good for them. Now back to reality.

so...no.

PS3 sold as much as 360 and probably overtook it because PS3 sales were still going strong worldwide at the end of the gen.

Now, it's a massacre, Xbox one is a joke.

It has become apparent when ms were embarrassed to give monthly numbers of consoles sold. It embarrasses me the way ms have acted this gen.

Nope. I think your analogy is too colored in bias to work. It's not as though the end result was, as you imply, not equal. They came out with nearly the same sales. You're the one who is not taking into account the actual sales figures. Pretending as though both platforms didn't face challenges (considering that the Xbox had a fraction of the fanbase as Playstation did before the Xbox 360's launch) is too disingenuous for me to consider your opinion. There are so many other dimensions one could consider; the success of blu-ray over HD DVD, the fact that the PS3 was a more powerful platform than the Xbox 360, the failure rate of the 360 hardware and the absence of the Japanese market - to pretend like the 360 didn't do well in the face of these tribulations is bias.

Relating to this topic and the greater context of their general output, I think it's far less comparable. Playstation platforms generally perform far better. The only exception is the Xbox 360 which challenges Sony's product.

The Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 rivalry was the closest to the Genesis and SNES one. The latter was simply the best, because the consoles had signature technology, and the games to prove them differently. They were also invested on side stuff that didn't matter, like Microsoft's Kinect and its games, which I would compare to SEGA CD and its FMV titles.

Nothing is colored. As i said to lems themselves, stop partying over X360 sales, you did as BAD as PS3 or as GOOD as PS3 when Sony and PS3 was in the worst state any other console manufacturer could ever dream of being in. A total nightmare. Nothing to party about losing from such a player. And i wont even start all the other problems PS3 had as a system. If we add that up, oh boy ...

Im not pretending nothing, im talking facts. X360 had everything play on their side, every single thing. From price, to games ,to multis, to steal PS3 exclusives, to be the leading console, to be in profit side for a long time, better online and many more advantages like having a whole more year in the market .. .and all that while Sony was almost gone !! And still .... lost.

What else it needed for MS and X360 to win vs Sony and PS3 ? Sony in the verge of bankruptcy literally speaking and PS3 one of the most, if not the most, problematic and ovepriced system the recent years that not only didnt deliver what it promised but had no games to show off for 2 years.

And here you are telling me X360 was a rival .... by losing in the end under such circumstances, i mean ... really guys ? Thats what a rival is when you thinking true rivals in sports or whenever ? I dont think so. Well i dont think so. You dont think so also.

The Xbox brand began when the PS2 sold like hotcakes. In no way were the circumstances better than Playstation's when SEGA and Nintendo killed themselves. Sony had the easy way in and it's hard for it to go out, because they don't have business practices, but the freedom that developers seek and gamers enjoy. However, former legendary developer Treasure Co. chose the Xbox Live Arcade service for their games. It had to be for the paid services and support. Otherwise, freedom land on PSN, where only the best get to survive.

@AzatiS: No your blatantly ignoring a number of factors that I have previously mentioned. It's not facts, you are just ignoring a large portion of the circumstances that Xbox 360 faced and your argument is clearly bias.

They both did very well. They shared a market together and thrived despite heated competition. Not everyone can afford two consoles. For the platforms to be so matched is a testament to both consoles.

No you are the one desperatly trying to find reasons to counter what was happening with Sony and Ps3 so you have something to say against the facts im stating. X360 stole otherwise PS exclusives ( PS3 managed to lose itself actually ), MS was on profitable side big time unlike sony with multibillion losses per year, every year, cheaper price , better performance on most multis, leading in sales for long time, a whole year more in the market, leading platform for massive hits like COD and other popular titles.... and the list goes on and on ... We gonna compare those things with X360s difficulties ? Its like comparing an elephant with an ant.

They both did the same sales with Sony proving what is the real boss of console gaming providing under epicly nasty circumstances AAA caliber exclusives 6 months before PS4s release and in the very end managed to sale more PS3s when the rivals were either dead or ... in cold life support offering nothing major.... rivals .. guhu guhu.

Theres no rivalry, never was. It seemed like that for the reasons i stated so i can understand why people looked it that way. But in reality its like losing vs a crippled opponent since day 1, when at the same time everything goes your way, and calling yourself a rival. I beg to differ if thats what people think as rivalry. Lets agree we disagree on that, the discussion goes nowhere.

@AzatiS: I don't think there is any desperation. We are talking about a brand with a fraction of the fanbase, missing an entire region of support and having weaker hardware and no support for the popular blu-ray format.

Sorry Az but I cant get behind your opinion here. I think it's far too one sided.

Sales were nearly the exact same...

Well you trying to compare MSs X360 "struggles" with one of the biggest financial crisis any electronic company got into like ever that still as we speak hasnt recovered let alone a whole nation, that of Japan, had to help them otherwise they would go bankrupt ! I mean people tend to bypass this like was some sort of small issue or something. And above that we can add the fact that PS3 was a super problematic, overpriced product with myriad of smaller problems that kept plaguing it till the very end. From price, to architecture, to loss of exclusives to worse multi performance to no games for years to one less year in the market .....

Its fine and beleive me i understand why people thought X360 as rival to PS3 since sales were similar but i dont see it like that. I would if X360 would have won by far .. not lose vs a company and a product that both were at their worst shape ever. Even by losing with a very slight manner ... still ... a true rival would have kicked their asses not lose ...

Hell Nah!!!

Ms is not even trying, at this point!!!

Better luck next time, and never try to screw your customers /piece of advice

nope

nintendo vs sega

sony vs nintendo vs sega

Microsoft just the red headed step child to me..... it just appealed to kids born in the 90's not really had a legacy outside of xbox live and halo...and halo truthfully was overrated then and its overrated now

it took destiny for people to realize how overrated bungie was... because they where not blinded by there choice of console