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Yep. I'm playing my 360 on a 7 year old TV and I still get the next gen experience. Don't need a HDTV to enjoy my consoles.
[QUOTE="karicha9"]People that feel that you need HD to truly experience "next gen" are falling for the marketing ploy.ramey70You'd have hard time convincing my eyes that they are seeing a "marketing ploy" on my 56" 1080p HDTV.Yet most games are 720p, correct?
"Next gen" is just a phrase made to describe a new batch of consoles. It's not a hardware or gameplay standard that a console has to live up to.
Read up and enjoy. :)
[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="karicha9"]People that feel that you need HD to truly experience "next gen" are falling for the marketing ploy.karicha9You'd have hard time convincing my eyes that they are seeing a "marketing ploy" on my 56" 1080p HDTV.Yet most games are 720p, correct?
I feel gaming should incorperate every technology that is available. Since consoles only come out every 5 years or so, they can't possibly utilize everything.
In 1994, 3D graphics were possible and secondly CDs were the standard for media.
In 2000, DVDs were rapidly becoming the standard and media playback capablities were expected in consoles.
In 2002, online was rapidly becoming more and more important to gaming
In 2005, HD was set to become the next big thing in home entertainment.
As always some consoles chose to neglect certain trends for others, but you have to admit, CDs killed the cartridge. DVD's played a huge roll in the sucess of the PS2. Online help the xbox build a fan base. And just about everything is going HD now. Seems to me, a next gen console should have HD capabilities. Wether or not it has advanced shaders, HDR capabilites, anext gen movie discdrive, or a motion sensing control is not really that important when you get down to it. But I think anything less than 720p is old news. Â
I have a hard time playing 480i games after spending so much time with HD progressive signals. It makes my eyes hurt, and sometimes I get a little nauseous.
[QUOTE="ramey70"]Again I disagree. The first time I played Resistance, which was an average at best shooter, was on an SDTV. When I purchased my HDTV I popped in Resistance just to see the difference. I ended up spending all weekend playing it from start to finish all over again just to enjoy the HD visuals. Quite simply, it was like a whole new game and I thoroughly enjoyed it more the second time around.karicha9Then you are simply a graphics whore and you might as well just watch a movie.
[QUOTE="mofaxfosho"]lol@people without hdtvsTNT_SlugThey're a luxury item. I want my gaming to be as inexpensive as possible and not depend on luxuries, thank you.
 They won't be luxury anymore when HD becomes the "standard", besides, some decent HDTV's can be found fairly cheap.
All I can say is... My $1,400 purchase was well worth it. I can even use it as a massive PC monitor. :P
Killing 2 birds with 1 stone is nice.
That is not true at ALL. The experience can be a lot worse if you can't stand the low resolution and it just makes thinks hard to see.hellzhitmanI suggest you stop playing on your 13" TV, then. Seriously, you must be kidding me. We didn't need HD before this gen, so we certainly don't "need" it now to see what's going on.
They're a luxury item. I want my gaming to be as inexpensive as possible and not depend on luxuries, thank you.[QUOTE="TNT_Slug"][QUOTE="mofaxfosho"]lol@people without hdtvsNagidar
 They won't be luxury anymore when HD becomes the "standard", besides, some decent HDTV's can be found fairly cheap.
And how many years will be until that? Did you know that the number of DVD players just surpassed the number of VHS players in the U.S. only very recently? Yes, HDTV will become the new standard someday... But until then, I'll pass on it.[QUOTE="Nagidar"]They're a luxury item. I want my gaming to be as inexpensive as possible and not depend on luxuries, thank you.[QUOTE="TNT_Slug"][QUOTE="mofaxfosho"]lol@people without hdtvsTNT_Slug
 They won't be luxury anymore when HD becomes the "standard", besides, some decent HDTV's can be found fairly cheap.
And how many years will be until that? Did you know that the number of DVD players just surpassed the number of VHS players in the U.S. very recently? Yes, HDTV will become the new standard someday... Until then, I'll pass on it. Hey man, I was just making a point, its your loss, not mine, have fun.
[QUOTE="hellzhitman"]That is not true at ALL. The experience can be a lot worse if you can't stand the low resolution and it just makes thinks hard to see.karicha9I suggest you stop playing on your 13" TV, then. Seriously, you must be kidding me. We didn't need HD before this gen, so we certainly don't "need" it now to see what's going on.
[QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"]That is not true at ALL. The experience can be a lot worse if you can't stand the low resolution and it just makes thinks hard to see.hellzhitmanI suggest you stop playing on your 13" TV, then. Seriously, you must be kidding me. We didn't need HD before this gen, so we certainly don't "need" it now to see what's going on.
[QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"]That is not true at ALL. The experience can be a lot worse if you can't stand the low resolution and it just makes thinks hard to see.hellzhitmanI suggest you stop playing on your 13" TV, then. Seriously, you must be kidding me. We didn't need HD before this gen, so we certainly don't "need" it now to see what's going on.
[QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"]That is not true at ALL. The experience can be a lot worse if you can't stand the low resolution and it just makes thinks hard to see.Kronos6I suggest you stop playing on your 13" TV, then. Seriously, you must be kidding me. We didn't need HD before this gen, so we certainly don't "need" it now to see what's going on.
[QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"]That is not true at ALL. The experience can be a lot worse if you can't stand the low resolution and it just makes thinks hard to see.karicha9I suggest you stop playing on your 13" TV, then. Seriously, you must be kidding me. We didn't need HD before this gen, so we certainly don't "need" it now to see what's going on.
Did I say that. Let me ask you? Do you own anything besides a Nintendo console? Just because I don't like looking at 10 year old resolution I don't want to go back to it.hellzhitmanI thought you "needed" HD because you couldn't see things? Now we see it's all about things looking prettier.
[QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="karicha9"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"]That is not true at ALL. The experience can be a lot worse if you can't stand the low resolution and it just makes thinks hard to see.karicha9I suggest you stop playing on your 13" TV, then. Seriously, you must be kidding me. We didn't need HD before this gen, so we certainly don't "need" it now to see what's going on.
[QUOTE="hellzhitman"]Did I say that. Let me ask you? Do you own anything besides a Nintendo console? Just because I don't like looking at 10 year old resolution I don't want to go back to it.karicha9I thought you "needed" HD because you couldn't see things? Now we see it's all about things looking prettier.
I believe the precedent tells us that people in general don't care for graphics too much, and there was no need for this poll...The PS1 beat the N64 The PS2 beat the GC and Xbox The DS beat the PSP. What do all these consoles have in common? Worse graphics than the competition. I simply don't think the introduction of HDTVs change that, specially since they're a redundant feature (I already have a TV).TNT_Slug
The PS1 beat the N64 - Nintendo beat the N64, cartridges were not only more expensive than CD's, they held less information, bad move by Nintendo.
The PS2 beat the GC and Xbox - PS2 had no competition for over a year, it had a head start, the PS2's head start won last gen.
The DS beat the PSP. - The PSP was a portable PS2 instead of just a stand-alone handheld, it was pushed by SONY to be a multimedia handheld that backfired, UMD movies went to crap, that is what beat the PSP.
Which again just points to graphics whoreitis. I'd prefer a big screen to HD anyday. I have no problem seeing things in SD and never have. You people act like HD is some kind of savior to your eyes. Let's face it, though. Hitch on HD is still....well...Hitch.
karicha9
Well, it all boils down to this.
Which would you rather eat?
This?
Or this?
Essentially that's all SD and HD is, with the first one being SD and the second HD. They're basically the same thing (cheeseburgers) but the second looks (and probably tastes) a hell of a lot better.
[QUOTE="TNT_Slug"]I believe the precedent tells us that people in general don't care for graphics too much, and there was no need for this poll...
The PS1 beat the N64 The PS2 beat the GC and Xbox The DS beat the PSP. What do all these consoles have in common? Worse graphics than the competition. I simply don't think the introduction of HDTVs change that, specially since they're a redundant feature (I already have a TV).Nagidar
The PS1 beat the N64 - Nintendo beat the N64, cartridges were not only more expensive than CD's, they held less information, bad move by Nintendo.
The PS2 beat the GC and Xbox - PS2 had no competition for over a year, it had a head start, the PS2's head start won last gen.
The DS beat the PSP. - The PSP was a portable PS2 instead of just a stand-alone handheld, it was pushed by SONY to be a multimedia handheld that backfired, UMD movies went to crap, that is what beat the PSP.
Are you supporting or rebutting my points? You just proved that the factors to decide a console war are not the graphics, which was my original point.No, thats not what I said. You must be some die-hard Nintendo fan because I'm getting pissed off. Hd makes games better in the sense that they're more immersive and everything doesn't look like a 3 inch wide pixel on your screen. It's like a pair of good headphones. Once you try it, you notice things you never noticed before( this is for games that are made the right way). Besides, if you are a Nintendo fan I'd like to tell you there was no reason Nintendo couldn't have made it's resolution scalable like the Xbox and PS2 did...hellzhitman
[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="TNT_Slug"]I believe the precedent tells us that people in general don't care for graphics too much, and there was no need for this poll...
The PS1 beat the N64 The PS2 beat the GC and Xbox The DS beat the PSP. What do all these consoles have in common? Worse graphics than the competition. I simply don't think the introduction of HDTVs change that, specially since they're a redundant feature (I already have a TV).TNT_Slug
The PS1 beat the N64 - Nintendo beat the N64, cartridges were not only more expensive than CD's, they held less information, bad move by Nintendo.
The PS2 beat the GC and Xbox - PS2 had no competition for over a year, it had a head start, the PS2's head start won last gen.
The DS beat the PSP. - The PSP was a portable PS2 instead of just a stand-alone handheld, it was pushed by SONY to be a multimedia handheld that backfired, UMD movies went to crap, that is what beat the PSP.
Are you supporting or rebutting my points? You just proved that the factors to decide a console war are not the graphics, which was my original point. No, what I'm saying is, there are other factors involved, if the Xbox was released along side the PS2 do you think the PS2 would have dominated? (Well, by that much anyways, we will never know what would have happened)
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