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#1 Tony-Baxter
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Amazing how we live in the year 2011 and Sony (OF ALL COMPANIES) didn't even have a firewall up on the internet.
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#2 el3m2tigre
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They didn't have a firewall up? I was pretty sure they did have one up, only that it was dated.

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#3 broken_bass_bin
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I'm pretty sure they did have a firewall.

Just a massively flawed one.

EDIT: Do I forgive them? No. But I place more blame on the people who actually did it in the first place.

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#4 Ragnarok1051
Member since 2007 • 20238 Posts

Sony didn't hack me.

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#5 ActionRemix
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I got Little Big Planet out of it :D
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#6 mrmusicman247
Member since 2008 • 17601 Posts
No, never. Sony has broken my heart and into my bank account. I will never trust them again blah blah blah.
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#7 Heil68
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I never held a grudge.
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#8 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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I haven't heard anyone talk of it since this thread.

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#9 Badosh
Member since 2011 • 12774 Posts
There's nothing to forgive.
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#10 xXDrPainXx
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I don't care. Stuff like this happens all the time to other corporations so I don't know why Sony would be any different? Obviously once its done you have to go back and rework on what you would do differently.

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#11 SquirrelTamer
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There's nothing to forgive.Badosh
This!
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#12 razgriz_101
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I dont care, effectively crap happens thats how i see it and generally tend to abide by that.

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#13 Messiahbolical-
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I never cared about the hack, any smart person would just change all of their passwords/credit cards/etc. That took about 30-40 minutes to take care of completely and I didn't have anything to worry about at all. The thing that pissed me off was how long it took them to get PSN back up. Me and my girlfriend use PSN Voice Chat to talk to each other a lot to save phone minutes because PSN chat is free, so not having PSN chat for 3 weeks sucked horrifically and we had to text a lot more than normal and find other means of talking to each other during the week and not using so much minutes. Also, not playing games online sucked too since I usually only play online games to begin with.
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#14 slaves
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I never blamed them so no need for forgiveness

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#15 mmmwksil
Member since 2003 • 16423 Posts

It happens. They asked for forgiveness with those free games; not that they needed to.

Either way, the games they gave out weren't to my liking, anyway. Infamous was so lousy, and LBP as well. The others I already owned.

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#16 Legendaryscmt
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I couldn't play online, but beyond that it didn't affect me at all. Didn't use credit cards, passwords were changed, etc, etc. I forgive them this time, but it better be one hell of a wakeup call to them,

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#17 daviwinn
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I've decided that I will avoid Sony products if possible from now on. The next time I buy a TV I'll look at Samsung, Sharp or LG. If a game I want is multiplat, I'm buying it on the 360. If a new exclusive comes out I'm buying used, and I'll never make another purchase on the PSN...so no, I guess I haven't forgiven them. Oh and by the way, it wasn't the hack or the downtime that drove me away, it was their complete lack of concern about their consumers.
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#18 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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I don't forgive or forget 8)

seriously i always forgot about the hack until someone brings it back up again

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#19 JigglyWiggly_
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Wasn't the main problem that their mysql entries were storing passwords in plaintext?
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#20 BigBoss154
Member since 2009 • 2956 Posts

Wasn't the main problem that their mysql entries were storing passwords in plaintext?JigglyWiggly_

The passwords were in hashed form, though.

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#21 FlamesOfGrey
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I've never seen a concrete official statement about Sony's security being terrible so, I don't fully blame Sony. They didn't hack themselves and any company can get hacked if a group of compotent hackers want to badly enough. My problem with the hacking situation is Sony waiting so long to be upfront and come clean about the situation, 6 days is pathetic. I will be using PSN points from now on and won't ever trust them or any other service like XBL with my card information again.
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#22 mems_1224
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i dont blame sony for the hack, i blame them for the terrible way they handled the entire situation
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#23 KevinPlanet
Member since 2003 • 941 Posts

Yes. It could (and has) have happened to any company including Microsoft, Nintendo, EA and Valve. Sony was specifically targeted.

I had no problem uploading my CC information as soon as I had access to the store, and if the same were to happen to Nintendo or Microsoft I still would have no problem with it. They handled the situation properly by providing theft detection services just in case and I still have yet to play the two games I got for free.

Your CC information isn't safe ANYWHERE, and its best to monitor transactions on your own or have alert services set up just in case.

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#24 brendanhunt1
Member since 2008 • 2333 Posts

That brief period was one of the most productive weeks of my life :P

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#25 brennanhuff
Member since 2011 • 957 Posts

Wasn't the main problem that their mysql entries were storing passwords in plaintext?JigglyWiggly_

lol @mysql

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#26 BPoole96
Member since 2008 • 22818 Posts

I thank Sony for the hack. During that time I realized that I should broaden my gaming horizons and try other platforms instead of only being able to deal with whateebr Soyn gives me

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#27 RandomWinner
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They messed up. I got over it. They handled everything accordingly after the fact. I don't blame them for their actions that lead to this, I blame the people directly responsible (who suck). They messed up, but they owned it, handled it, and admitted to it. I don't know what I would've done differently. I don't like standing up for the mega corporations but nobody's lives were ruined by a lack of online for a month.

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#28 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="broken_bass_bin"]

I'm pretty sure they did have a firewall.

Just a massively flawed one.

EDIT: Do I forgive them? No. But I place more blame on the people who actually did it in the first place.

Pretty much this.
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#29 AzatiS
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Amazing how we live in the year 2011 and Sony (OF ALL COMPANIES) didn't even have a firewall up on the internet.Tony-Baxter
Man , hackers hacking pentagon and NASAs multimillion firewalls and net security... i mean seriously..come on... Dont troll
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#30 brennanhuff
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[QUOTE="Tony-Baxter"]Amazing how we live in the year 2011 and Sony (OF ALL COMPANIES) didn't even have a firewall up on the internet.AzatiS
Man , hackers ATTEMPTING hacking pentagon and NASAs multimillion firewalls and net security... i mean seriously..come on... Dont troll

Fixed.

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#31 Am_Confucius
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Sony doesn't hack accounts. Hackers hack accounts.
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#32 Riverwolf007
Member since 2005 • 26023 Posts

i can't blame them for not knowing what they are doing.

sony only heard of the internet 3 or 4 years ago.

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#33 Zaibach
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I never forgave those houses that burgled, should have had a cerebus

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#34 finalfantasy94
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It happend and you cant do much about it. It didint hurt me in the end. I didint lose anything and I still got to play my games.

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#35 LegatoSkyheart
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No, and I won't forgive the Hacker either considering it's been like 5 years since the system Launched and THEN someone decides to Hack Sony's Systems? and During a Time where they were having Legal Disputes with some dude that jailbreaks stuff for a living?

I like Sony's Games and the PS3, but 1 they should have had better security and 2 it should never have happened in the first place.

Anyway, Online is up now still so to just be done with it, I forgive Sony a little bit, but We should really just Forget about it and Move On.

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#36 shahilsyed
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I will never forgive Sony for this.

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#37 TrapJak
Member since 2011 • 2933 Posts

It was a one time thing, and the online is back on, so sure.

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#38 ShadowMoses900
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Umm...I'm pretty sure Sony had a firewall up, probably not the best one, bu they probably had one I'm sure.

But to answer your question, not really. I mean the way Sony handled the hack was terrible, they waited an enitire week before they said what was going on, and they waited until the week was over before they told us about mabey having our information comprimised, that was STUPID! Plus they kept bringing out false info on there PS Blog, for instance first they released a statement that said "were just doing some scheduled maintenence, be back tomorrow" well tomorrow rolls around and they say "still doing some maintenance, tomorrow it will be up" and it just kept going and going....

With all that being said, while yes I do put some of the blame on Sony, it ultimately falls on the hackers. Sony shares some of the blame sure, but the majority of it is the hackers fault. I hope nothing like this ever happens again, and I hope it never happens to anyone else either. That's why I encourage everyone, wether they play on PSN or xbox Live or whatever, to change there password on a regular basis. Has xbox live been hacked? no and I hope it never does, but you be really naive to belive it's invincible to one. If some people really wanted to and were dedicated enough, they could hack xbox live.

Like I said I hope it never happens, and I'm not trying to scare anyone. But I see too many people thinking that they don't have to be cautious about their information on xbox live because they think it's invincible. Sorry but it isn't and that's why you need to take precautions just in case. In this day and age you can never really be too careful, especially with personal info...

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#39 shahilsyed
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Umm...I'm pretty sure Sony had a firewall up, probably not the best one, bu they probably had one I'm sure.

But to answer your question, not really. I mean the way Sony handled the hack was terrible, they waited an enitire week before they said what was going on, and they waited until the week was over before they told us about mabey having our informationcomprimised, that was STUPID! Plus they kept bringing out false info on there PS Blog, for instance first they released a statement that said "were just doing some scheduled maintenence, be back tomorrow" well tomorrow rolls around and they say "still doing some maintenance, tomorrow it will be up" and it just kept going and going....

With all that being said, while yes I do put some of the blame on Sony, it ultimately falls on the hackers. Sony shares some of the blame sure, but the majority of it is the hackers fault. I hope nothing like this ever happens again, and I hope it never happens to anyone else either. That's why I encourage everyone, wether they play on PSN or xbox Live or whatever, to change there password on a regular basis. Has xbox live been hacked? no and I hope it never does, but you be really naive to belive it's invincible to one. If some people really wanted to and were dedicated enough, they could hack xbox live.

Like I said I hope it never happens, and I'm not trying to scare anyone. But I see too many people thinking that they don't have to be cautious about their information on xbox live because they think it's invincible. Sorry but it isn't and that's why you need to take precautions just in case. In this day and age you can never really be too careful, especially with personal info...

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I think this is the first post you made that you didnt kiss Sony's a$$, you were being honest.
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#40 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Umm...I'm pretty sure Sony had a firewall up, probably not the best one, bu they probably had one I'm sure.

But to answer your question, not really. I mean the way Sony handled the hack was terrible, they waited an enitire week before they said what was going on, and they waited until the week was over before they told us about mabey having our informationcomprimised, that was STUPID! Plus they kept bringing out false info on there PS Blog, for instance first they released a statement that said "were just doing some scheduled maintenence, be back tomorrow" well tomorrow rolls around and they say "still doing some maintenance, tomorrow it will be up" and it just kept going and going....

With all that being said, while yes I do put some of the blame on Sony, it ultimately falls on the hackers. Sony shares some of the blame sure, but the majority of it is the hackers fault. I hope nothing like this ever happens again, and I hope it never happens to anyone else either. That's why I encourage everyone, wether they play on PSN or xbox Live or whatever, to change there password on a regular basis. Has xbox live been hacked? no and I hope it never does, but you be really naive to belive it's invincible to one. If some people really wanted to and were dedicated enough, they could hack xbox live.

Like I said I hope it never happens, and I'm not trying to scare anyone. But I see too many people thinking that they don't have to be cautious about their information on xbox live because they think it's invincible. Sorry but it isn't and that's why you need to take precautions just in case. In this day and age you can never really be too careful, especially with personal info...

shahilsyed

I think this is the first post you made that you didnt kiss Sony's a$$, you were being honest.

lol calm down man, no reason to hate me bro ;)

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#41 Demonjoe93
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I've gotten over it. I didn't lose any money and those who did were compensated. I just hope Sony improved their security after that disaster.

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#42 Tykain
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There is nothing to forgive. I never cared about the psn hack tbh.
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#43 T_REX305
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I didn't really care. Never got anything stolen.

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#44 ArchoNils2
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As a Computer Scientist myself I know how few effort they put into their system so no, I don't forgive them that it happened, but I'm sure they learned a lesson and work hard on it from now on, so I guess I'm save using Sony products

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#45 JohnF111
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Sony didn't lose my info, someone took it, even if i leave my car door open it doesn't give someone the right to take my cd player and hence make it my fault, it was still theft.
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#46 princeofshapeir
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They gave out LBP and inFAMOUS as compensation, and considering those two games are fantastic, they've gone above and beyond in terms of customer support.
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#47 ArchoNils2
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Sony didn't lose my info, someone took it, even if i leave my car door open it doesn't give someone the right to take my cd player and hence make it my fault, it was still theft.JohnF111

So if you lend me your car, I leave the door white open and somebody steals you Cd Player you wouldn't blame me?

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#48 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Sony didn't lose my info, someone took it, even if i leave my car door open it doesn't give someone the right to take my cd player and hence make it my fault, it was still theft.ArchoNils2

So if you lend me your car, I leave the door white open and somebody steals you Cd Player you wouldn't blame me?

Terrible analogy as you're equating a car you own to an account you've made on PSN, and the person holding your car door open is responsible for just that car while Sony is responsible for millions of users' accounts.
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#49 bbkkristian
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Haha, Sony got what they deserved by all the media attention and putting them under fire. Its all good now.
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#50 Diviniuz
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a thief breaks into your home by breaking a shut window. Am I going to blame the window or the thief? I guess sony can be considered partially at fault, but most of the fault lies with the hackers