Do you LOVE or HATE Fallout 4?

I realize this game is either love or hate. I actually love it, even though it didn't captivate me like Fallout 3 or Skyrim. The combat is so much fun. What about you, SW? Where are you on the Fallout 4 consensus?

Neither. I think it is a mediocre game that sold as much as it did on hype, and which does nothing that it tries particularly well- as a result, I dislike it, but its existence does not offend me. There are far better games that i can play that give me exactly what I want, anyway.

It''s garbage.

Bug ridden insult to the amazing original Fallout game by Interplay.

It's good for what came out this year, it was a weak year for games (there's been better, despite what the bloodborne/witcher fanboys will say)

Neither

It's a mediocre game. I think it was overhyped because of the success of Skyrim. It's an 8/10 game

Well, I love my family, wife dogs. I like the game though.

It's a 7/10 to me. It's fun, but there is a lot better. To be honest though I like the elder scrolls games bethesda does over the fallout games.

Love. Its better than Fallout3 and NV but is also worst than both in some areas. Its a good game but for such a huge franchise, Bethesda and their sea of money, five years since the last Fallout, this should've been 1 million times better than what it really is. Sometimes i feel like i'm back in 2008 and is playing Fallout 3 on 360.

Its an extremely lazy evolution of then series (if at all) but since i'm a huge fan of its world, i can look over its problems. There's zero excuses for Bethesda to release a single other game on their relic of an engine, tho. Not a single other game. Please GTFO with this trash of an engine that runs like garbage and manages to look even worst.

Do i like the game? Yes. Its 9/10 worthy for me but that is ONLY because i enjoy the Fallout (as the series, not just 4) world as a whole.

Yeah! absolutely, Fallout 4 is cool. So much fun in the game. It does not let you bore. It has so many cool features, I appreciate the lack of a level cap - but there's not a lot to keep you playing beyond the Settlement building and just general exploration. I'd appreciate more Behemonth spawns and more Search & Clear missions for locations I've never been to.

Despise it, if only for how lazy Bethesda is. I rate it a 6/10, especially put up against other games that came out in 2015 like TW3, MG5, XBCX, then if you put it up against games that the developers poured there hearts out on, F4 looks even worse, Undertale alone put to shame many games because its amazing how much effort went into it, then comes along Bethesda HAHAHA, what a joke. I rate Batman:AK higher as at least I know some actual hard work went into some versions of that game. F4 for me is what CoD is, but worse, because it took the 5 years or so to release it.

I really like it, but I wouldn't say I love it. I think it's a great game, but this is coming from someone who hasn't played any Fallouts before this one. Fallout 4 can be improved upon immensely though, which is the case with pretty much all of Bethesda's games.

I love it. Huge world with tons of stuff to find and the places are worth exploring not because you will find 100 completely pointless things to do when you step forward an inch (W3, AC, DAI) but because you find stuff that's useful for crafting and interesting quests come through exploration not little fucking pointers all over the map that say 'hey go and do this other thing that wastes your time as well'.

All the hate it gets hasn't stopped people who love it from playing it. It's more rewarding and interesting than W3 (you are Geralt on another sightseeing tour almost zero character development outside a couple of swords and signs and TONS of filler content) or DAI which is just plain lazy the world looks amazing but the game they didn't even fucking try and don't get me started on that gargantuan pile of shit that is Skyrim.

Great game, if you hate it, stop playing RPG's and play AC and bore yourself to death (basically doing the world a favour at the same time which may win you favour with God, double whammy).

It's merely okay. I love the exploration of Fallout, but that's about it for FO4.

I'm at 100+ hours now and still playing, love it enough to finish it but I'm beginning to resent the fact it's eating so much of my time up. Still fun game by design.

I like it pretty much.

I loved it. :)

FO4 is pure shit

This, the gunplay was better than its predocessors ... but the rest of it.... ugh....

I suppose, if it had a good "end game" ... and actually had good factions, and a good finale ... I would be singing another tune.

Got to level 50 .. nothing challenging to do ... no awesome side quests.... no super-dangerous/rewarding areas on the map...... that required me to level higher... no nothing...

The early game was the best bit.... after that... it was mediocre at best...

The japanese are far better at making end-games in RPGs.....

I absolutely love fallout 4... And that's not to say it isn't without flaws, but in a hobby where truth is subjective, no game I've played yet in gen 8 has hooked me quite so deep...

The world is expansive and begs to be searched, the combat is only marginally improved upon, but the way it's systems feed eachother is deeply satisfying and equally addicting...

junk means something and it feeds your settlement building, which levels you up to unlock better perks which help you in combat which also levels you up... Its as if God Howard perfected the carousel of interaction with a games systems... I can agree with some points on the simplification of the dialog and repetitive nature of questing, (though I'd eliminate any thought referring to being "bored" with the questing in game.. Just that there's more opportunity there In such a massive world.)

Fallout doesn't have a ton of high, highs... Its pretty consistently fallout from the get go... I feel this is where most folks are saying it's "average" or "mediocre"... I think it's possibly those who spent a little time with it and we're hoping for more in other areas...

Taken all things, I think it's easily the most connected and satisfying wasteland I've roamed in Fallout.

This.

I'm actually sad and disappointed about the totally unreflected and fanboyish critical acclaim of this game (and not about the game itself). It says a lot about the current state of mainstream gaming and the quality and state of the gaming press. And it's definitely a bad sign for game development in general imo.

Fallout 4 reminds me of that Korn dubstep album.

Shits on the oldschool fans by trying to be modern and hip. Gets outpaced at every step by actual modern stuff.

Gets good reviews and sales regardless.

I really enjoyed it at first, despite not knowing anything about Boston or its landmarks. Now that I am roughly 2 days into the game I am starting to notice the negative aspects. Dogmeat is permanently glitched into one of my settlements where when I talk to him it will bug out my game and prevent me from pulling out my pipboy/he will also not follow, enemy variation is starting to get old, and I'm at the point where I don't really like any of the factions, and the game is just too easy (sure I can start a new game or adjust difficulty but I've already invested a ton of time with this character).

Well, you could say that I... LOVE to HATE Fallout 4.

I don't really know where I sit on Fallout 4 yet.

From what I've played it's mediocre at best, but the thing is Fallout 3 felt the same to me when that launched, but I went back to the game a few years after and really enjoyed it the second time, while New Vegas I enjoyed from the start. So for now, I'm in between, I don't love it, but I don't hate it either, and will try and at least finish the main story at some point.

Fallout 4 is simply the best game ever made.

True some games in this gen have better animation and simply better graphics.

But the artwork, level of interactivity and open world exploration is beyond any other game.

It has always been like that in a bethesda game. They seem to have the power to create a living and breathing world where you can play in.

I'm not saying there won't be any other games that can rival or even best it, but that game hasn't been released yet.

It's not, though- any game that fails at the fundamental, all important being a game part has no business being called the best game ever made.

It's not even just about graphics- no other game this generation is using a fifteen year old engine. No other game this generation has a total lack of textures. No other game this generation has framerate drops to sub 15FPS in corridor areas with just one enemy and simple geometry.

The artwork is trash, what are you talking about? It is bland and generic, and has no sense of identity or self. Fallout 3, for all its visual drabness, was an infinitely more stylish game as far as the art goes.

You can't even climb ladders.

Most interactivity in the game is picking things up and putting them back down. It's as shallow as a check mark on a box.

About the one thing the game does well, though even there, the sameness of its setting doesn't do it many (any) favors.

Living and breathing? It's a sterile sandbox that exists to enable a power fantasy for the player, the entire world shapes itself and revolves around you. A living and breathing world is not like that, a living and breathing world is persistent, and one that exists in spite of and independently of the player's existence and participation in the world.

I can name ten games, of which five are RPGs, that were released this year, and are better than Fallout 4.

best game this year

I haven't played it, nor do I plan to; FO4 isn't a game for me and the discussions surrounding it now do nothing to enthuse me.

Neither, I just like it.

I'd love it if it wasn't for its bugs and dumbing down of dialogue and perk systems.

I dont like it, but hate is a strong word. If i had to play games i dont like, yes i would hate them.

It doesn't interest me enough to buy it, not a fan of this new-age Fallout...

Sure. A world with 100 normal settlers (producing food and stuff) and about 1000 raiders, bandits, synths and supermutants who do nothing beyond killing each other all the time is probably the perfect depiction of a living and breathing world...

Which drugs do you people take? I want some of that as well...

Yeah it's just Oblivion with guns.

But in all seriousness there are some pretty stupid things missing from the game.

No self shadow in first person mode is a big one, they make such a point to use lighting but your own character does not cast a shadow, the sad thing is modders fixed it in Skyrim so what's the excuse. It's all the little things like that that add up.

@ten_pints: no, see, oblivion was actually fun, and it was ahead of its time. Fallout 4 is stagnant and stale, and the most fun I have with it is ripping it a new one.

how incredibly petty of you

Not saying it's a bad game, but I just haven't been able to get into it. After 20+ hours I have ended up going back to finish up some other games instead. Guess I will try it out again down the road, but I'm not expecting a lot. I think I've started FO3 like 10 times, and I ended up getting bored with it every time. I don't know what it is, because I love Oblivion, Skyrim and New Vegas. It's just FO3, and FO4.

Worth a play but I wont pick it up again after beating it. I think the game could be great if they could fix the shit engine they are using. I had to follow a guy in game in one mission only to have him get stuck on a log in a pre planned route. Spent the next 10 minutes bumping into him to get him to move the 2 feet over so we could finish the mission. Crap like that happened dozens and dozens of times.

I like it, open world games are one of my favourite genres.

Its not a very good game but I wouldnt say I hate it. It introduced some new things like base building and stuff which was OK but it felt like it was tacked on or like I was playing a mod.

Its the worst Bethesda game to date IMO.

It's decent but I can see why people are disappointing(I am too). It's a barebones Fallout 3 being released in 2015 with an inexcusably outdated engine and incorporating almost zero ideas that New Vegas did right(seriously no hardcore mode?). Hopefully modders can fix many of these things and hopefully console owners can get some of these mods like skills at the very least

I do like the random legendary enemies though.

That's not a genre, but a plague in modern gaming... :D

Am I the only one who prefered the combat in Project Nevada gunplay to this bullet sponge mess?

Seriously, whose idea was it to increase HP with each level. All it does is turn everything and everyone into a bullet sponge in the end. You can have well over 1000 hp in this game, enoguh to survive a mini nuke in the face... seriously.

HP gain should be regulated to Base Stats only (and make them cap at 10 this time instead of letting players reach 16 on each stat) and a few perks.

Likewise, I seriously hope Bethesda learnt their lesson from this. They do not understand fallout, and its better to just leave that to Obsidian or maybe even InXile. But Bethesda does not understand fallout, clearly. Oh and please, no dialogue wheel for the next game.

You seem to bear animosity toward Fallout 4 slightly above the level of disliking it.

Its okay...enjoyed it, can't say I love it though. Need to bring back consequences when you join whatever group...no consequences at all...like when you join Brotherhood of Steel, they stated you can't do anymore freelance stuff...yet you're still able to do Minutemen & RailRoad stuff ..lol. Didn't like they gimp the conversation big time & no weapons degradability. :P

I have mixed feelings

Haven't played it yet. I always find Bathesda games over hyped. I don't hate them though. Once I pick them up, I enjoy them for several hours, despite their flaws but they aren't something that I..... anticipate.

@acp_45: Nah, I actually am as neutral towards Fallout 4 as I said- but I didn't say anything about my sentiment towards Fallout 4 fans, now, did I? :D

Wait, did you say it didn't captivate you like Skyrim or Fallout 3?
Good! I think I'll love it when I play it...:D

I like it. The combat is really fun. Also I am a sucker for housing in games. I play a lot of building games so you can put building in just about anything and I'm sold. (Not in my top 5 games of the year, but still good anyway :)

Yea, if you like less than stellar writing and redundant side quests. Have fun then!