Do you still think it's a fad? That it will ruin the gaming industry? ....:|
nintendo-4life
The embarrasing demos of motion based gaming both Sony and Microsoft showed did not give me any faith in it. I think it works for Nintendo and everyone else is coming off like a cheap imitation. Natal if released this gen will be a joke it should wait until next gen. Sony's waggle controller with the ping pong ball on the end of it was just horrible.
since you need wii motion plus to make it work properly it is exactly the definition of a gimmick .legol1
i was actually referring to the concept of motion sensing as a whole. and since we are at it. the PS1 had an update on it's controller as well.... why wasn't it called a gimmick then?
Yes all motion control is a gimmick it's never going to replace controllers. Project Natal is cool and I will probably get it and there might be a game or 2 that comes out that I get for the party play thing I'll mostly be using it to replace my current 360 camera and to navigate my 360 menus Minority Report style. As for PS3 it's pretty much Project Natal and Wii combined, ProjectNatal andthe PS3 thing could both do the same thing just give Natal some sticks and insert the programNatal is running into PS3'scamera gimmick it's all the same.
since you need wii motion plus to make it work properly it is exactly the definition of a gimmick .legol1
It still works. Wii MotionPlus just adds more sensitivity. And by your definition the fact that some companies re-released controllers (sony has done it twice - PS1 controller was re-released with two analog sticks and then the PS3 controller released with dualshock 3.) are the same thing..
I never thought it was a fad. I figured that it would be the inevitable future of gaming and it seems very likely that next gen will make it standard.Ontain
If it is standard next gen, this is my last gen of gaming then. I don't play games to be active. I play them to sit on the couch and relax.
[QUOTE="Ontain"]I never thought it was a fad. I figured that it would be the inevitable future of gaming and it seems very likely that next gen will make it standard.Pirate700
If it is standard next gen, this is my last gen of gaming then. I don't play games to be active. I play them to sit on the couch and relax.
Good to know you can still play games the same way with motion controls, like those on the Wii of course - not natal.
nintendo sold a broken controler and sold the missing part after and you are force to buy it if you want to play wii motion plus enable games .smell the coffe and wake up.
nintendo sold a broken controler and sold the missing part after and you are force to buy it if you want to play wii motion plus enable games .smell the coffe and wake up.legol1
broken =/= gimmick Nevertheless i'm not talking about that.
yes and we can already see gaming being ruined by it. Every company is now using motion control and ms is making rare work on natal games instead of real games.
yes and we can already see gaming being ruined by it. Every company is now using motion control and ms is making rare work on natal games instead of real games.
Lemmywinks_360
Yeah I hope this motion garbage goes the way of the Dinosaur soon. I hate every part of it with a passion. The tech is cool, but it should never be mandatory.
nintendo sold a broken controler and sold the missing part after and you are force to buy it if you want to play wii motion plus enable games .smell the coffe and wake up.legol1
lol, the games that exist right now where designed with the tech the Wiimote offered, direction, rotation, proximity, IR pointing and acceleration are detected flawlessly. M+ is something entirely diferent, it detects the position of your arm and, obviously, more directions. Now answer me, how THE HELL can it be broken if the games where designed with the old tech in mind. NMH, MW, BB, MG, MP3, etc... all work wonderfully
yes and we can already see gaming being ruined by it. Every company is now using motion control and ms is making rare work on natal games instead of real games.
Pirate700
Yeah I hope this motion garbage goes the way of the Dinosaur soon. I hate every part of it with a passion. The tech is cool, but it should never be mandatory.
You and me both. Motion controls CANNOT be used for a serious genre like rpg or fps. The only thing it could be useful for is rts but they are already infinitely better on pc.
You and me both. Motion controls CANNOT be used for a serious genre like rpg or fps. The only thing it could be useful for is rts but they are already infinitely better on pc.
Lemmywinks_360
FPS works quite well with motion controls. rpg could as well depending on the type of rpg you're talking about. as for rts. it's possible too. remember that the mouse is motion sensing as well.
I gave up on that gimmick stuff a long time ago. It isn't. Nintendo carved a path to people's wallets and the others are looking to widen it. This happens in all industries. There is always a first, before long others begin to compete.
So far its been a complete waste of time. Although it's kind of funny that the uses of motion control in Sony's tech demo were better than anything Nintendo have done.
Sure, we were all concerned with it, but I know that a high-end company like Nintendo would take all of its goals seriously.
I think the fad comes when developers use motion control to make shovelware. People know that Wii motion is a new kind of gameplay that has serious potential to make fun games, but developers keep taking cheap, quick shortcuts.
So far its been a complete waste of time. Although it's kind of funny that the uses of motion control in Sony's tech demo were better than anything Nintendo have done.SolidSnake35
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]So far its been a complete waste of time. Although it's kind of funny that the uses of motion control in Sony's tech demo were better than anything Nintendo have done.nintendo-4life
WMP is exactly the sameIt is exactly the same different tech but works the same The Eyetoy is Sony's Motion Wand's Sensor Bar.
[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]So far its been a complete waste of time. Although it's kind of funny that the uses of motion control in Sony's tech demo were better than anything Nintendo have done.Nintendo_Ownes7
WMP is exactly the sameIt is exactly the same different tech but works the same The Eyetoy is Sony's Motion Wand's Sensor Bar. lol yeah that's what i meant.
A) Eyetoy >Wii remote B) SSBB GC controller> Wii remote C) MS, Sony motion tech> Wii motion tech D) They're all gimmicks. E) Have a nice weekend. F) Don't forget to floss. G) Transformers 2, June 24h
yes and we can already see gaming being ruined by it. Every company is now using motion control and ms is making rare work on natal games instead of real games.
Pirate700
Yeah I hope this motion garbage goes the way of the Dinosaur soon. I hate every part of it with a passion. The tech is cool, but it should never be mandatory.
I completely agree. I don't want to faff around with my limbs to make my character do what I want when I could just press a few buttons. Also the wii remote is just horrible, I'd honestly rather use a PS3 controller.
If all next-gen consoles use motion sensing, I won't waste my money on any of them.
Yes for the most part its use in gaming to improve gameplay is quite limited in genres basicaly boiling down to sports, FPS, and RTS being the genres that can best impliment a motion control scheme. It seems like a step forward to alot of people who don't play games on a regular basis because motions are simplier to them than a combonation of button presses but it is simply a motion replacing a button push it doesn't open up new genres just slightly different ways to play them. Don't get me wrong when used correctly its alot of fun and can make the gameplay more interactive but those cases are in my opinion rare. I really think that companies need to focus on quality games not the imput devices for games.
I'm not against motion control just don't think its that big of a deal and certainly feel that sony and MS trying to cash in motion control is a poor use of resources that could be used for intertanl development of games in MS case or better marketing in sony's case. The wii success is based on a combination of things not just the motion controls(its price point, first party fanbase, family friendly mage, casual marketing campaign to capture the non gamer, as well as the initial media converage as an "it" item) has made it a success but I feel the motion control scheme will not be a reproducable success story simply because its already been done nintendo capitalized on being the first and got the atention now that its already been done the public will not have the same reaction.
People will still be asking this next gen when all the consoles are motion controlled. Let go of the buttons, people.
789shadow
I'll never let go of my buttons until I can completely control games with my brain like the PlayStation 9 promised. Have you seen Natal? buttons are neccessary.
People will still be asking this next gen when all the consoles are motion controlled. Let go of the buttons, people.
TheGrat1
I'll never let go of my buttons until I can completely control games with my brain like the PlayStation 9 promised. Have you seen Natal? buttons are neccessary.
Yes, I have, which is why I consider the Glow Sticks better than Natal. I'm not anti-buttons, I'm anti-all buttons, all the time.
A) Eyetoy >Wii remote B) SSBB GC controller> Wii remote C) MS, Sony motion tech> Wii motion tech D) They're all gimmicks. E) Have a nice weekend. F) Don't forget to floss. G) Transformers 2, June 24h
Adrian_Cloud
in sonys dreams maybe :P nunchuck and wiimote+ = awesomness
buttons and something to move with are nessesery, sonys dilmote dosent have anything to move with, while natal dosent even have any buttons
Sony's motion will go through some very drastic changes before its released. I have a feeling it will flop though just like Home did. Too little too late.
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