Do you still believe that the Wiimote is a gimmick?

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#51 Ontain
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Yeah. Motion only hinders real games (Punch out) and only makes stupid games more fun (wii sports).

Bread_or_Decide
one could say that it hinders old gameplay but makes new gameplay fun.
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#52 DeadEndPanda
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Wiimote = Gimmick. Glow stick = Legendary. That's just the way it works.

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you also forgot, the wiimotion+ dosent do the same stuff the sony dilmote dose :P

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#53 Adrian_Cloud
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[QUOTE="Adrian_Cloud"]

A) Eyetoy >Wii remote
B) SSBB GC controller> Wii remote
C) MS, Sony motion tech> Wii motion tech
D) They're all gimmicks.
E) Have a nice weekend.
F) Don't forget to floss.
G) Transformers 2, June 24h

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in sonys dreams maybe :P nunchuck and wiimote+ = awesomness

buttons and something to move with are nessesery, sonys dilmote dosent have anything to move with, while natal dosent even have any buttons

Would be more awesome if it worked well with the Wiis funnest game.

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#54 DonPerian
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A fad and a gimmick are two different things.
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#55 hakanakumono
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Yes. Just like sony and microsoft's recent showings. Just like the eyetoy was. Gimmicks aren't such a big problem if you don't base your entire console on them.

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#56 Couth_
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I still feel it's a gimmick. Alot of Wii games are best played without it. I never thought it would ruin gaming, but now that the other two companies are spending so much time and effort on it, it might :? However Natal is really impressive I think that technology will open the door for a lot of things, not necessarily associated with gaming, but could be
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#57 haziqonfire
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A) Eyetoy >Wii remote
B) SSBB GC controller> Wii remote
C) MS, Sony motion tech> Wii motion tech
D) They're all gimmicks.
E) Have a nice weekend.
F) Don't forget to floss.
G) Transformers 2, June 24h

Adrian_Cloud

A) Wrong.
B) Some people I've played with have been really good with the Nunchuck/Wiimote set up or Wiimote alone.
C) Obviously. If it wasn't it would have been a waste and laughable
D) Nope
E) Thanks
F) I won't
G) Crappy movie is going to be crappy movie, like the first - because Michael Bay likes big explosions and thats it.

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#58 SerpentX541
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While it may be a gimmick Wii remote can make the controls better for games but it depends on the genre.

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#59 DeadEndPanda
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While it may be a gimmick Wii remote can make the controls better for games but it depends on the genre.

SerpentX541

this is the point most people dont get.

lets take natal as an example.

fighting games HELL yes

FPS? no thanks

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#60 TheGrat1
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[QUOTE="789shadow"]

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="789shadow"]

People will still be asking this next gen when all the consoles are motion controlled. Let go of the buttons, people.

I'll never let go of my buttons until I can completely control games with my brain like the PlayStation 9 promised. Have you seen Natal? buttons are neccessary.

Yes, I have, which is why I consider the Glow Sticks better than Natal. I'm not anti-buttons, I'm anti-all buttons, all the time.

I can see the appeal of all-buttons. Solid, reliable, no interpretation. I press a button/push a stick/pull a trigger it responds predictibally every time. No muttering about how my stroke was off by a couple degrees...
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#61 TheGrat1
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[QUOTE="DeadEndPanda"]

[QUOTE="SerpentX541"]

While it may be a gimmick Wii remote can make the controls better for games but it depends on the genre.

this is the point most people dont get.

lets take natal as an example.

fighting games HELL yes

FPS? no thanks

Fighting games? Are you series? I don't know about you but I certainly don't have an inner Kazuya Mishima or an inner Blanka ready to leap out. Plus that lag puts it out of the quaestion. Now I could see a very good boxing game using Sony's controller.
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#62 Shadow2k6
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Its a gimmick. Gimmick attract casuals. Enough said. Just for the fact some games like SSBB play better with a classic or gamecube controller mean that it wasn't so revolutionary as Nintendo made it out to be.

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#63 urdead18
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Yes.

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#64 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="DeadEndPanda"]

[QUOTE="SerpentX541"]

While it may be a gimmick Wii remote can make the controls better for games but it depends on the genre.

this is the point most people dont get.

lets take natal as an example.

fighting games HELL yes

FPS? no thanks

Fighting games? Are you series? I don't know about you but I certainly don't have an inner Kazuya Mishima or an inner Blanka ready to leap out. Plus that lag puts it out of the quaestion. Now I could see a very good boxing game using Sony's controller.

i wish natal would let me do a spinning bird kick :(
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#65 DeadEndPanda
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[QUOTE="DeadEndPanda"]

[QUOTE="SerpentX541"]

While it may be a gimmick Wii remote can make the controls better for games but it depends on the genre.

TheGrat1

this is the point most people dont get.

lets take natal as an example.

fighting games HELL yes

FPS? no thanks

Fighting games? Are you series? I don't know about you but I certainly don't have an inner Kazuya Mishima or an inner Blanka ready to leap out. Plus that lag puts it out of the quaestion. Now I could see a very good boxing game using Sony's controller.

i always go crazy dragon ball z hair and all when i lose in fighting games, why not use that enery to actully beat up maylo? :P

boxing would be pritty good with ps3's dilmote, basicly the same as with the nintendo wiimote+

the diffrence been 2 dilmotes vs 1 wiimote+ and nunchuck

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#66 Hungry_Jello
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[QUOTE="legol1"]nintendo sold a broken controler and sold the missing part after and you are force to buy it if you want to play wii motion plus enable games .smell the coffe and wake up.Thunderdrone
lol, the games that exist right now where designed with the tech the Wiimote offered, direction, rotation, proximity, IR pointing and acceleration are detected flawlessly. M+ is something entirely diferent, it detects the position of your arm and, obviously, more directions. Now answer me, how THE HELL can it be broken if the games where designed with the old tech in mind. NMH, MW, BB, MG, MP3, etc... all work wonderfully

Wrong. Way wrong. You could swing your arms in any direction in no more heroes and still do the finishing move. That game had broken Wii controls but was still fun.

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#67 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"][QUOTE="legol1"]nintendo sold a broken controler and sold the missing part after and you are force to buy it if you want to play wii motion plus enable games .smell the coffe and wake up.Hungry_Jello

lol, the games that exist right now where designed with the tech the Wiimote offered, direction, rotation, proximity, IR pointing and acceleration are detected flawlessly. M+ is something entirely diferent, it detects the position of your arm and, obviously, more directions. Now answer me, how THE HELL can it be broken if the games where designed with the old tech in mind. NMH, MW, BB, MG, MP3, etc... all work wonderfully

Wrong. Way wrong. You could swing your arms in any direction in no more heroes and still do the finishing move. That game had broken Wii controls but was still fun.

not any direction, it reads the entire Y-axis as one move, same with the X- axis. But it was more accurate than most people give it credit for.
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#68 Thunderdrone
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Its a gimmick. Gimmick attract casuals. Enough said. Just for the fact some games like SSBB play better with a classic or gamecube controller mean that it wasn't so revolutionary as Nintendo made it out to be.

Shadow2k6

The fact that Gran Turismo plays better with a wheel, Street Fighter plays better with an arcade stick, light gun games play better with the GunCon, FPs play better with M&K/IR means the Dual Shock, 360 Controller are utter crap

amirite

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#69 Thunderdrone
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[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"][QUOTE="legol1"]nintendo sold a broken controler and sold the missing part after and you are force to buy it if you want to play wii motion plus enable games .smell the coffe and wake up.Hungry_Jello

lol, the games that exist right now where designed with the tech the Wiimote offered, direction, rotation, proximity, IR pointing and acceleration are detected flawlessly. M+ is something entirely diferent, it detects the position of your arm and, obviously, more directions. Now answer me, how THE HELL can it be broken if the games where designed with the old tech in mind. NMH, MW, BB, MG, MP3, etc... all work wonderfully

Wrong. Way wrong. You could swing your arms in any direction in no more heroes and still do the finishing move. That game had broken Wii controls but was still fun.

LOL no. It reads directional swipes PERFECTLY. The thing is, humans are not robots, we cant move an object horizontaly and verticaly perfectly all the time while we are focused on something else (game). The fact that the remote read a diagonal (left to right) swipe as a perfect right swipe doesnt mean its detection is broken, its forgiving game design.
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#70 Link256
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At this point, I do not know how anyone call it a "fad." Maybe in Japan.

Is it bad for the industry? I tend to say "no," but in all honesty, who the hell knows?

For me, it is a "gimmick." Unless we are talking about IR, such as Link's Crossbow Training, or a Wii Sports, motions controls almost always feel forced. More games that give you the option of traditional control, such as Punch-Out, or Mario Kart Wii, the better things will be, IMHO.

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#71 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="Shadow2k6"]

Its a gimmick. Gimmick attract casuals. Enough said. Just for the fact some games like SSBB play better with a classic or gamecube controller mean that it wasn't so revolutionary as Nintendo made it out to be.

Thunderdrone

The fact that Gran Turismo plays better with a wheel, Street Fighter plays better with an arcade stick, light gun games play better with the GunCon, FPs play better with M&K/IR means the Dual Shock, 360 Controller are utter crap

amirite

amazing backfire logic :o
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#72 Zoso-8
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Yes, I still don't want to play video games with a motion controller, sorry.