Do You think Bayonetta could top DMC?

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#51 foxhound_fox
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DMC is a fun series... but not as good as it's made out to be, God of War is better... and I even had more fun with No More Heroes... which isn't nearly as deap combat wise.

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It *is* as good as its made out to be. Unlike God of War, its more than just button mashing and QTE's... it actually requires you to use strategy (styIe changes and varied moves) when fighting so that you can get more Stylish points and end up with a better Devil Hunter rating at the end of each mission. The better you do, the more red orbs you get, the more things you can unlock.

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#52 foxhound_fox
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Why there is so much hate towards DMC4, IMO is a great, fun, action game, maybe a lot of people compare it to DMC3 which is awesome (my second favorite PS2 game in fact) but even so, i think that DMC4 is a really fun game and for a change at least it gave us a different character.madsnakehhh

I love playing as Nero in 4. The Exceed gauge takes skill to use properly... and can really make things hectic and fast-paced. The combat in 4 is a lot more fluid, polished and deeper than 3. Sure, 3 has Vergil, but 4 is a lot more varied and creative in its environments, more creative in terms of story, the narrative is deeper and more meaningful (not just Dante kicking ass) and the enemies are way cooler. The Alto Angelo is just awesome.

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#53 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]Why there is so much hate towards DMC4, IMO is a great, fun, action game, maybe a lot of people compare it to DMC3 which is awesome (my second favorite PS2 game in fact) but even so, i think that DMC4 is a really fun game and for a change at least it gave us a different character.foxhound_fox


I love playing as Nero in 4. The Exceed gauge takes skill to use properly... and can really make things hectic and fast-paced. The combat in 4 is a lot more fluid, polished and deeper than 3. Sure, 3 has Vergil, but 4 is a lot more varied and creative in its environments, more creative in terms of story, the narrative is deeper and more meaningful (not just Dante kicking ass) and the enemies are way cooler. The Alto Angelo is just awesome.

Exactly, the game offers more than the previous one, and i love how they, instead of changin Dante, they create a new character to make this new love story, the difficulty is rather high on some parts with some enemies, maybe i would love to see new bosses and more weapons for the Dante part, but overall i still think that DMC4 is as good as 1 and 3.

BTW, indeed, Alto Angelo is really, really awesome and one of the best parts of the game.

I just hope that Bayonetta can offer something similar, by the trailers i have seen it looks great.

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#54 Hungry_Jello
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Bayonetta cant top the juggernaut known as DMC. Why does everyone hate on 4? It was a good game that brought new stuff to the table. Better graphics, gameplay, and characters. What was wrong with it?

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#55 Animal-Mother
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Bayonetta looks eh... It'll be good but I dont think it'll Top DMC

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#56 foxhound_fox
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Bayonetta cant top the juggernaut known as DMC. Why does everyone hate on 4? It was a good game that brought new stuff to the table. Better graphics, gameplay, and characters. What was wrong with it?

Hungry_Jello


I think what most people have against 4 is that Vergil isn't in it.

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#57 XxSTILL_BORNxX
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[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

Bayonetta cant top the juggernaut known as DMC. Why does everyone hate on 4? It was a good game that brought new stuff to the table. Better graphics, gameplay, and characters. What was wrong with it?

foxhound_fox


I think what most people have against 4 is that Vergil isn't in it.

My complaints that ruined the game for me are. The other half of the game is like the first half of the game but backwards, Fight the same bosses 3 - 4 times and not many memorable levels.

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#58 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]Why there is so much hate towards DMC4, IMO is a great, fun, action game, maybe a lot of people compare it to DMC3 which is awesome (my second favorite PS2 game in fact) but even so, i think that DMC4 is a really fun game and for a change at least it gave us a different character.foxhound_fox


I love playing as Nero in 4. The Exceed gauge takes skill to use properly... and can really make things hectic and fast-paced. The combat in 4 is a lot more fluid, polished and deeper than 3.

:lol:

so less weapons and a devil bringer that QTE kills enemies is deeper ?

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#59 Hungry_Jello
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

Bayonetta cant top the juggernaut known as DMC. Why does everyone hate on 4? It was a good game that brought new stuff to the table. Better graphics, gameplay, and characters. What was wrong with it?

XxSTILL_BORNxX


I think what most people have against 4 is that Vergil isn't in it.

My complaints that ruined the game for me are. The other half of the game is like the first half of the game but backwards, Fight the same bosses 3 - 4 times and not many memorable levels.

The only thing I can agree with you about is fighting the same bosses with Dante and the backtracking. People seem to forget DMC4 wasnt the only one in its series to backtrack. DMC 3 had a helluva lot of backtracking also.

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#60 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="XxSTILL_BORNxX"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
I think what most people have against 4 is that Vergil isn't in it.

Hungry_Jello

My complaints that ruined the game for me are. The other half of the game is like the first half of the game but backwards, Fight the same bosses 3 - 4 times and not many memorable levels.

The only thing I can agree with you about is fighting the same bosses with Dante and the backtracking. People seem to forget DMC4 wasnt the only one in its series to backtrack. DMC 3 had a helluva lot of backtracking also.

yeah but atleast the levels were significantly altered when you returned to them. In DMC4 as soon as you take control of dante it's the same recycled levels all over again.

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#61 Dystopian-X
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Can't tell until I know more about Bayoneta's gameplay or play it. I know Kamiya is behind it and it's looking quite promising but that's not enough for me to say it will surely surpass the existing series that has proved itself to me.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I love playing as Nero in 4. The Exceed gauge takes skill to use properly... and can really make things hectic and fast-paced. The combat in 4 is a lot more fluid, polished and deeper than 3.

Shinobishyguy

:lol:

so less weapons and a devil bringer that QTE kills enemies is deeper ?

No, but changing styles on the go is.

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#62 Renjinrezo
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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] No its repetitive and dull. Simple as that.Dibdibdobdobo

sounds like action games arent your bag then, doesnt mean the game is rubbish.

I love Ominusha. In comparison to that game its rubbish.

I thought Onimusha was rubbish though, but to each his own. Why I don't like it? It was pretty boring and I didn't like the characters, also the combat system was atrocious. Of course I began to hate it even more when they introduced Soki(he was just annoying).

Back on-topic:
DMC2 and 4 are not that hard to top, so I am expecting Bayonetta to be victorious in this matter (also the person that helped create dmc 1 is on the team). DMC1 on the other hand is impossible to topple with that character design and over-the-top action scenes, it just isn't a very serious looking game. DMC3 wasn't serious most of the time, because they had changed Dante from cold-hearted fighter to a"clown" with lots of one-liners. DMC2 is another story though-- it hadn't been fleshed out at all, characters were bland and boss fights were too simple; besides that I also thought the ending was horrible, and had no connection to DMC1.

BTW I thought DMC4 was extremely horrible, because of the inclusion of Nero.

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#63 Zerocrossings
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Bayonetta cant top the juggernaut known as DMC. Why does everyone hate on 4? It was a good game that brought new stuff to the table. Better graphics, gameplay, and characters. What was wrong with it?

Hungry_Jello

I would admit i had fun playing as Nero. The suck started coming in at midpart where you use Dante and had to backtrack through the entire ****ing game again. On the fly style switching is fun for the first couple of minute, but the weapons for Dante all sucked. (Only thing new is the Lucifer)

I guess thats my problem with the game, Dante is completely tacked on and shouldnt be in the game. I'd rather they throw in more combos for nero and have new environments and bosses for the rest of the game.

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#64 PatchMaster
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I'm not impressed by Bayonetta thusfar. It seems really cheesy... even more so than Dante's dialogue.

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#65 kidonre
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DMC3 isbetter than Onimusha 3 which is suppose to be the best in it's series. You can't even jump in that game from what I can recall play itand the combat is nowhere near as deep or as fluid as in those found in DMC3.

In the case of DMC series vs Bayonetta, I don't thinkit's going to top DMC3 or even DMC1 for that matter.

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that combat in onimusha isn't the same as DMC/NG, you fight as samurai, and don't go jumping around doing back flips, normally not being able to jump in an action game is a stupid decision, but its not that big a deal in onimusha you can't jump in heavenly sword either
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#67 deactivated-5e7be39d87e0b
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It looks like it could be a contender. I'd give it a 50-50 shot.

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#68 madsnakehhh
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="zarshack"]sounds like action games arent your bag then, doesnt mean the game is rubbish.

Renjinrezo

I love Ominusha. In comparison to that game its rubbish.

BTW I thought DMC4 was extremely horrible, because of the inclusion of Nero.

Only because of that? you think that the game is horrible, i mean, extremely horrible only because it has a new character?

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#69 XxSTILL_BORNxX
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[QUOTE="Zerocrossings"]

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

Bayonetta cant top the juggernaut known as DMC. Why does everyone hate on 4? It was a good game that brought new stuff to the table. Better graphics, gameplay, and characters. What was wrong with it?

I would admit i had fun playing as Nero. The suck started coming in at midpart where you use Dante and had to backtrack through the entire ****ing game again. On the fly style switching is fun for the first couple of minute, but the weapons for Dante all sucked. (Only thing new is the Lucifer)

I guess thats my problem with the game, Dante is completely tacked on and shouldnt be in the game. I'd rather they throw in more combos for nero and have new environments and bosses for the rest of the game.

You could say that again. For me it runied from what should have been a great game but oh well.
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#70 slvrraven9
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i just want my DAMN COPY OF BAYONETTA!!!!! anyone knows when itll release?
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#71 yoshi_64
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With a heroine that goes nude when unleashing a large scale special attack, Bayonetta wins by a landslide! Boobs FTW!! :D
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#72 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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It could in gameplay, but I have to say I'm not to fond of the main character (gonna be awkward playing her..lol :P)
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#73 slvrraven9
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It could in gameplay, but I have to say I'm not to fond of the main character (gonna be awkward playing her..lol :P) SAGE_OF_FIRE
u kiddin!?? thats and her finishers are what im MOST fond of!