Do you think Bungie will try to match Killzone 2's standards with Halo ODST

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Don't blame the developers, blame the publisher who wanted the game out.

Ninja-Hippo

Bungie wanted more time. Each of the employees said such; howoever, they were given none such leverage. They were stuck with a deadline in which they could not agree with, and thus when Halo 2 released, it wasn't the game we "thought" it was going to be. (It was better and worse at the same time!)

Yeah, maybe you're right -- that is, about how Halo 3 was definitely more thought out and had "set in stone" deadlines. Perhaps I need to watch over the making of documentaries once more. Damn you Ninja.

Oh, this is a discussion about graphics. I thought it would be about gameplay (cover system, cooking grenades, etc). How silly of me. :P

Mordred19

[QUOTE="Deiuos"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax1nvd8DF1Q

Stevo_the_gamer

i wont buy a game with the word Halo for my 360... ITS MY RULE after what happened with Halo 3. Halo 3 single was crap and i hated its multiplayer.. I hope the game isnt like Halo 3 at all. If bungie was smart they will upgrade the graphics from the crap thats Halo 3 and make the game look better than Killzone 2 but fanboys dont wanna go there lol.

3 levels were removed, oh man, that would had made the game longer.mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]3 levels were removed, oh man, that would had made the game longer.Stevo_the_gamer

More importantly (totally not being subtle here in changing the subject), will this dev team on ODST give it distinct gameplay to fit with the different soldier you control? I saw a small snippet of info from their site which said regenerating health was still going to be in the game, and that sounds strange frankly.

Dude it's Bungie, give me a break. They're awesome.

Plus I'm really looking forward to the changes to the Halo formula in ODST. (Open World, Upgradeable Weapons (?), No Radar, Can't jump high, Night Vision.)

While Killzone 2 is probably great, I trust Bungie.

Anyway Halo 3 wasn't the greatest game graphics wise, it's all about the gameplay.

SynisterGamer

More importantly (totally not being subtle here in changing the subject), will this dev team on ODST give it distinct gameplay to fit with the different soldier you control? I saw a small snippet of info from their site which said regenerating health was still going to be in the game, and that sounds strange frankly.

Mordred19

So how long is Halo 3: Recon going to be?

Honestly it's impossible to really quantify this. Even with Halo 3 an individual's play time can vary dramatically based on difficulty level, modifiers like skulls, and whether or not it's played individually, cooperatively, or within the multiplayer portions of the game, which can amount to near infinite play time. While it's true that we view Halo 3: Recon as an extension to the Halo 3 game experience, it's too early to settle on a specific number of hours of gameplay.

Paul Bertone, design director, was quoted as saying that part of the design process involved finding a story that would fit within a "3 to 5 hour expansion pack." There are a few points to make here to provide more context and allay some concerns people seem to be having over their expectations for the scope of the game. First of all, while Halo 3: Recon did originate with the goal of building a 3 to 5 hour campaign experience, I can safely say that as is always the case with Bungie, the team is continuing to put more and more into it and the final product will end up being some order of magnitude more than the initial design. Game Informer also touches on the new structure to the campaign experience and how there are basically two separate components to the campaign. The initial play time targets were focused on one of those components. And lastly, there are still plenty of things we're not talking about with Recon that will further enhance and add to the experience, play time, and replayability of the final package.

I can safely say that at the end of the day, the sum of the parts of the Halo 3: Recon box will add up to a great experience for Halo fans.

Is Halo 3 : Recon a 3rd person / squad based shooter?

Nope. "Recon" is definitely first person and it's definitely still a Halo game as you've come to know it. That said, playing as an ODST in this new setting will bring some new twists to the gameplay.

Is there a multiplayer component to Halo 3: Recon?

There are multiplayer maps that will appear as a part of the Halo 3: Recon package. This includes the aforementioned Mythic Map Pack in addition to a few others. You can also experience the entire Recon campaign cooperatively with up to 4 players.

Will we get to play as ODSTs in multiplayer now?

No. The multiplayer maps included with the retail package are straight up Halo 3 multiplayer maps. The ODST and other components that make up the Recon campaign are in a separate bucket and not crossing over into the competitive multiplayer realm. Think of it as two games in one.

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I hopes this helps answer some of your questions.:)

[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

More importantly (totally not being subtle here in changing the subject), will this dev team on ODST give it distinct gameplay to fit with the different soldier you control? I saw a small snippet of info from their site which said regenerating health was still going to be in the game, and that sounds strange frankly.

SpruceCaboose

I think Bungie are going to stick with what makes them the most money, so no.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Mordred19"]

More importantly (totally not being subtle here in changing the subject), will this dev team on ODST give it distinct gameplay to fit with the different soldier you control? I saw a small snippet of info from their site which said regenerating health was still going to be in the game, and that sounds strange frankly.

Gta3-fan334

please stop going oj about graphics. they aren't even that good in KZ2, its fuzzy and blurry - its MEANT to be fuzzy and blurry. I love how the gun is half out of focus, and the fuzziness suggests a televised atmosphere. its art more than technical prowess.

Where KZ2 beats Halo is gameplay, i just finished the campaign a few days ago, and its awesome!!!! that big machine thing towards the end was heavy. Halo is a bit monotonic and samey. So single player, KZ2 wins hands down.

Multiplayer, im still not sure. I've only played a few multiplayer KZ2 and i do love it. The gameplay allows for awesome multi-level maps. Not like Halo ie pit stop where you get multi-levels you're just shooting up at someone or down at someone, in KZ some maps are like king of the hill where you get a load of people up high, covering, whiulst shooting down low. however, the cover system doesnt seem to work on multiplayer, can someone enlighten me on this.

also, the lobby system owns matchmaking, i hope bungie scrap matchmaking for odst. it sucks.

[QUOTE="Gta3-fan334"]

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"] Why can't the UNSC implement a form of the personal shield on ODST troops? They have the tech, they have the know how. Its not like the ODST troops are standard Marines. They are supposed to be the elite, maybe they got some of the SPARTAN leftovers ;)SpruceCaboose

No, I'm pretty sure that the UNSC uses their own Nuclear Reactors to power the energy sheilds, which are based on covie designs. I don't think they have reactors small enough and powerful enough to be worthwhile for ODST's to lug around. Plus I thought the Haloverse was written far in advance of Halo:ce?

Gta3-fan334

I doubt a developer would bother changing the graphics for an expansion pack.

I doubt it.

It wont be as good technically, I thknk it will be like halo, though a little more realistic and more focused on group tactics.

Im hoping it will provide good tactical action online as the 360 lacks that a little. So it would make sense.

NinjaMunkey01

ODST is just a campaign expansion. How many times does this have to be said? It's coming with all Halo 3 maps, including the last 3 Mythic maps.

[QUOTE="Nisim19"]bungie dont good as gorila in graphics, but in gameplay HALO have higher standarts then KZ2hoosier7

If you take 20 seconds to kill someone, it's your fault, not Bungies.

I love how people try to say games are bad because they are. No wonder why COD is called the best FPS this gen. It's impossible to be bad at that game meaning it's a good game.

You say standard as if killzone was this all mighty game that everyone has to beat.

Dont you mean , graphical standards?

[QUOTE="hoosier7"][QUOTE="Nisim19"]bungie dont good as gorila in graphics, but in gameplay HALO have higher standarts then KZ2RobNBankz

If you take 20 seconds to kill someone, it's your fault, not Bungies.

I love how people try to say games are bad because they are. No wonder why COD is called the best FPS this gen. It's impossible to be bad at that game meaning it's a good game.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]i rather they waste time on gameplay than some trival thing like graphics or realism lawlessx

whouldn't mind some realism in halo :)

even if halo odst scored a .5 it would still be better than killzone2. halo 3 is 9.5 and killzone2 is barely a 9.0 besides odst is just an expansion correct

I doubt Bungie even gives Killzone 2 a second thought when considering how much more successful Halo is commercially.

I think that ODST is going to borrow a lot of concepts from Killzone 2. A more wieghted character, more tactical battles, perhaps their own cover system.

I mean Killzone 2's gameplay is nearly exactly what ODST needs to be. Remember, we aren't playing as a Spartan. Things are going to change.

Killzone 2 can't be matched, it's the greatest FPS of all time. 10 years down the road people will look back on Killzone 2 as the greatest FPS surpassing that of Half-Life and Halo will be forgotten.

Trinners

ROFLOMGLOLHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-please just stop, I think I ruptured my lung from laughing so hard at that statement. Half-Life 2>Killzone 2. Halo will never be forgotten, it helped make the Xbox a sucess as a console.

[QUOTE="inertk"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] I'd rather have 640p so long as the amazing lighting isn't downgraded.Stevo_the_gamer

2 years on that shouldn't be too much to ask for.

Halo 3 would look so much better if it had A/A, graphics just look really crappy to me when there are jaggies everywhere.