Do you think CGI should still be used for next gen?

I for one think CGI is great but it takes away from the game once you start playing because the game your playing looks no where near as good. I think CGI shouldn't be used anymore, next gen is almost here and I don't think we should rely on CGI anymore when the visuals can do so especially with graphics nowadays.

I like them using CGI in scenes as they are in most games more of a reward than breaking my immersion.

The in engine fmv in uncharted 2 was so seemless that it fooled me into thinking the game was better looking than it actually was. Not necessarily a bad thing.

Ever since Mgs1 though, I've always prefered ingame cut scenes.

I hate CG stuff in games, make the cutscenes in engine, it's far more immersive and doesn't pull me out of the game

No to CGI cutscenes. I didn't think they were even neccessary last gen. I also think cutscenes should be cut down in general. It's always best when the story is happening around the gameplay.

I hate CG stuff in games, make the cutscenes in engine, it's far more immersive and doesn't pull me out of the game

seanmcloughlin

Hardly any games use CGI anymore anyway. I think for some games its cool, I always look forward to CGI cutscenes in jrpgs

Hardly any games use CGI anymore anyway. I think for some games its cool, I always look forward to CGI cutscenes in jrpgs

RR360DD

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I hate CG stuff in games, make the cutscenes in engine, it's far more immersive and doesn't pull me out of the game

Ravenshout

was waiting for your CG boner rant to show up

I don't think we should rely on CGI anymore when the visuals can do so especially with graphics nowadays.Blazerdt47

CGI will literally always look better than contemporary real-time graphics.

Personally I think it's a waste of money, but then the companies doing it usually have the most money to waste.

I for one think CGI is great but it takes away from the game once you start playing because the game your playing looks no where near as good. I think CGI shouldn't be used anymore, next gen is almost here and I don't think we should rely on CGI anymore when the visuals can do so especially with graphics nowadays.

Blazerdt47

After looking at Square enixes real time demo I dont see the point, the in game visuals of next gen will match todays CGI. 

Nope. Gameplay should look like GCI

Hell no, pre-rendered cutscenes always end up looking like crap to me due to being lower-than-native resolution and compressed to hell due to consoles.

I hate CG stuff in games, make the cutscenes in engine, it's far more immersive and doesn't pull me out of the game

seanmcloughlin

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I hate CG stuff in games, make the cutscenes in engine, it's far more immersive and doesn't pull me out of the game

seanmcloughlin

was waiting for your CG boner rant to show up

Agni Philosophy, a Square Enix in-engine demo, looks terrible next to FF VERSUS XIII CGI.

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[QUOTE="Ravenshout"] CGI cutscenes in a Blizzard games usually play when you complete a chapter or episode. Blizzard fans see CGI as a reward upon completing a mission. Also, Blizzard CGI looks far better than anything next-gen games can dream to achieve. So, why cut CGI out completely? They are not like Square Enix CGI where it appears too often in their games.

Ravenshout

was waiting for your CG boner rant to show up

Agni Philosophy, a Square Enix in-engine demo, looks terrible next to FF VERSUS XIII CGI.

I have no idea why you do that, claiming people said stuff they didn't and then attacking them for it.

where did I say next gen visuals would look like CG?

I hate CG stuff in games, make the cutscenes in engine, it's far more immersive and doesn't pull me out of the game

seanmcloughlin

I agree, the huge contrast between the visual quality of CGI cutscenes and regular gameplay hurts the immersion.

No on PC it looks nasty. You go from 720p or less video to a sharp 1080 crisp image in game.

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Hardly any games use CGI anymore anyway. I think for some games its cool, I always look forward to CGI cutscenes in jrpgs

ShadowsDemon

nah bro everything you saw was actually in-game.

Hell no, pre-rendered cutscenes always end up looking like crap to me due to being lower-than-native resolution and compressed to hell due to consoles.

Riadon2

LOL if you think PC gameplay looks anything remotely to console CGI cutscenes. These hermits are just LOL these days.

Show me some PC gameplay that looks anything as good as this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzBfDZGWW1Y

Some sequences can be more epic with CGI, so, in some cases, yes (intro, ending, etc). Let's not forget that the gap between in engine and CGI will be smaller, next gen, so CGI won't look as decontextualized as it has been in previous generations.

I hate CG stuff in games, make the cutscenes in engine, it's far more immersive and doesn't pull me out of the game

seanmcloughlin

I think most of the games I like don't really feature CG or hardly any cutscenes; I like when the story is told in the game similar to Metroid Prime or similar Half-life 2.

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Hell no, pre-rendered cutscenes always end up looking like crap to me due to being lower-than-native resolution and compressed to hell due to consoles.

Chrome-

LOL if you think PC gameplay looks anything remotely to console CGI cutscenes. These hermits are just LOL these days.

Show me some PC gameplay that looks anything as good as this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzBfDZGWW1Y

He's not talking about the assets used, he's talking about the actualy clarity of the image. CG cutscenes are 720p because that's what consoles do, but when you play at 1080p on PC and see a 720p cutscene it looks horrid and has compression artifacts everywhere. The visuals themselves are very very pretty but the clarity of the image is ass

modern games like crysis 2 where you are forced to watch a long ass kid scene on first level before you can start running and gunning ruin gaming or all this dumbass scripted realtime cutscene bs like uncharted.

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I hate CG stuff in games, make the cutscenes in engine, it's far more immersive and doesn't pull me out of the game

Nintendo_Ownes7

I think most of the games I like don't really feature CG or hardly any cutscenes; I like when the story is told in the game similar to Metroid Prime or similar Half-life 2.

Games like God of War, Dead space and Uncharted do it well I think, their cutscenes are higher resolution and use better assets than in game, but they use the engine to make them so it still looks really good but less jarring and they transition very well. 

Going down a corridor and trigering a CG scene and then back to gameplay every 5 minutes is way too up and down for me. The game looks fine when playing then looks amazing in CG scenes and then the in game stuff looks less impressive afterwards. Then you get used to it and settle back in and it happens all over again. I much prefer consistency

What happened to having the ability  to start a game and start running and gunning in less than 30 seconds?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQyw7T9UIuE&feature=youtu.be

What happened to having the ability  to start a game and start running and gunning in less than 30 seconds?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQyw7T9UIuE&feature=youtu.be

nextgenjoke

Fvck off heewee

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What happened to having the ability  to start a game and start running and gunning in less than 30 seconds?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQyw7T9UIuE&feature=youtu.be

seanmcloughlin

Fvck off heewee

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What happened to having the ability  to start a game and start running and gunning in less than 30 seconds?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQyw7T9UIuE&feature=youtu.be

nextgenjoke

Fvck off heewee

Then don't play them and go back to live in your bubble of the past. 

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Fvck off heewee

seanmcloughlin

Then don't play them and go back to live in your bubble of the past. 

yes

yes

sukraj

doom,quake 1,2,unreal 1998 single player,duke nukem 3d you can jump right into the single player game and start playing.

Fps are just designed sucky now.

Young people need to understand just because something's new doesnt mean it's better than something old.

Old stuff is usually more quality built like old cars.

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Hell no, pre-rendered cutscenes always end up looking like crap to me due to being lower-than-native resolution and compressed to hell due to consoles.

seanmcloughlin

LOL if you think PC gameplay looks anything remotely to console CGI cutscenes. These hermits are just LOL these days.

Show me some PC gameplay that looks anything as good as this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzBfDZGWW1Y

He's not talking about the assets used, he's talking about the actualy clarity of the image. CG cutscenes are 720p because that's what consoles do, but when you play at 1080p on PC and see a 720p cutscene it looks horrid and has compression artifacts everywhere. The visuals themselves are very very pretty but the clarity of the image is ass

Cutscenes in FF13 are 1080p on the PS3 version. Clarity of the image would be the same doubt it would break any imersion.

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LOL if you think PC gameplay looks anything remotely to console CGI cutscenes. These hermits are just LOL these days.

Show me some PC gameplay that looks anything as good as this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzBfDZGWW1Y

 

Chrome-

He's not talking about the assets used, he's talking about the actualy clarity of the image. CG cutscenes are 720p because that's what consoles do, but when you play at 1080p on PC and see a 720p cutscene it looks horrid and has compression artifacts everywhere. The visuals themselves are very very pretty but the clarity of the image is ass

Cutscenes in FF13 are 1080p on the PS3 version. Clarity of the image would be the same doubt it would break any imersion.

One exception does not make the rule. Also PCs go much higher than 1080p.

Clarity is a major issue with them. You just haven't a clue what you're talking about