Do you think every PC gamer is a pirate?

Alot are. I've done my share of it while I was younger and couldn't afford every game out, I mostly bought games I loved then *tried* the others. Those days have long been gone, I don't pirate jack.. not even music, you learn the value of work when you enter the work force. But to say all are is hilarious.

This question is stupid and I really don't see what it has to do with system wars...

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

IMO piracy is due to one fact only: the ridiculously high prices of games. I'm pretty sure movies cost just as much as video games to make, yet you only pay $5 to see it, as opposed to $50.

Stevo_the_gamer

It's actually $6 where I live.

This question is stupid and I really don't see what it has to do with system wars...

JangoWuzHere

Thank you for constructively contributing to this discussion :roll:

No only 90% of PC gamers are. :D

PC piracy has been "rampant" since 1985... and its still the most popular and fastest growing market in the world.

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="badtaker"]Problems with PC user are when they do not like the Game They Pirate it.While Console users just Rent the game. PC = Piracy Problems Console =Renting Problems. Almost 70 % of PC users are pirates or may be greater (imo)sSubZerOo

That isn't exacty a problem. If people don't want to buy the game they aren't going to buy the game. Period. Studies have shown that piracy has little negative effect on sales. All those "pirated" copies of games that developers/publishers see aren't lost sales, they are people that will never buy the game, regardless of whether or not they play it.

Of course every PC gamer is a pirate, but then so is basically anyone who owns a PC as were all pirated something once before in our lives. But saying that PC games don't sell is just stupid, yes they get pirated, but so do many DS, PSP, 360, Wii and PS3 games as well. Plus anyway they still sell anyone remember the Sims 3? Sold like 1.5 million in a week or something and Crysis for PC has sold like 3 million supposedly as well. So the whole PC gaming is dead thanks to priacy is crap imo.

No, I buy all my games and music/movies, I'm a PC gamer.

I'd say at least 80% percent of the retail games on people's computers are pirated. And PC game sales are really dying, with the exception of games like WoW and Sims 3 becasue online is pretty vital to them.

But without a doubt 99% of PC gamers have pirated something at one point.

I can no more say that than say every console gamers is a pirate because I happen to have a friend who has a modded 360, or because of how so many people were downloading the leak of Halo 2 last gen on the first Xbox. Is everyone who owns a PSP a pirate?

I'd say at least 80% percent of the retail games on people's computers are pirated. And PC game sales are really dying, with the exception of games like WoW and Sims 3 becasue online is pretty vital to them.

But without a doubt 99% of PC gamers have pirated something at one point.

ColdP1zza

This theory does not reflect reality unfortunately.

I'd say at least 80% percent of the retail games on people's computers are pirated. And PC game sales are really dying, with the exception of games like WoW and Sims 3 becasue online is pretty vital to them.

ColdP1zza

Why do people keep posting these misconceptions? PC gameing revenue is rising, not falling. Many PC exclusives sell over a million copies. The Witcher, Sins of a Solar Empire, Crysis, Stalker along with mainstream games like The Sims 3 and WoW for example. PC gaming is doing much better now than it was a few years ago. PC remains the most lucrative platform to develop for. Even developers seem to agree considering over 70% of them are working on a PC title. Hell, even EA seems to think the PC is doing well.

[QUOTE="ColdP1zza"]

I'd say at least 80% percent of the retail games on people's computers are pirated. And PC game sales are really dying, with the exception of games like WoW and Sims 3 becasue online is pretty vital to them.

steve17989

Why do people keep posting these misconceptions? PC gameing revenue is rising, not falling. Many PC exclusives sell over a million copies. The Witcher, Sins of a Solar Empire, Crysis, Stalker along with mainstream games like The Sims 3 and WoW for example. PC gaming is doing much better now than it was a few years ago. PC remains the most lucrative platform to develop for. Even developers seem to agree considering over 70% of them are working on a PC title. Hell, even EA seems to think the PC is doing well.

im not too much of a pc gamer. the only game i play on pc is starcraft and maplestory lol. so i dont pirate games, plus i dont even know how to.

[QUOTE="ColdP1zza"]

I'd say at least 80% percent of the retail games on people's computers are pirated. And PC game sales are really dying, with the exception of games like WoW and Sims 3 becasue online is pretty vital to them.

steve17989

Why do people keep posting these misconceptions? PC gameing revenue is rising, not falling. Many PC exclusives sell over a million copies. The Witcher, Sins of a Solar Empire, Crysis, Stalker along with mainstream games like The Sims 3 and WoW for example. PC gaming is doing much better now than it was a few years ago. PC remains the most lucrative platform to develop for. Even developers seem to agree considering over 70% of them are working on a PC title. Hell, even EA seems to think the PC is doing well.

Nah man his statement is correct, all those links with info from people within the industry won't tell us otherwise!!!1

Another interesting article:

July 21, 2009

Tales of PC gaming's death have been greatly exaggerated

by Rich Brown

The "death of PC gaming" has become reliable column and blog fodder for tech journalists. Perhaps it stems from lingering bitterness over time wasted editing Warcraft batch files in DOS 6.0. Regardless, you shouldn't take the idea seriously.

To prove it, we won't even lean on that most tempting pillar of PC gaming, the 12 million-strong World of Warcraft monthly subscription-paying player base. Instead we'll point to a report by Rock, Paper, Shotgun's Kieron Gillen from Britain's Develop 09 conference, specifically from a presentation on digital distribution.

We take a step to the world stage. 13 Billion dollars is the entire PC games market in 2008. In terms of the split, Chart Track [a UK-based market retail firm] believes 24% is retail, 46% online revenue services (i.e. Subscriptions, micro-transactions), 22% is digital distribution and 8% is ad-revenue...All this compares to 32 billion dollars from all console sales.

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To recap our estimates for 2009:

* Global retail PC game sales: $2.37 billion (23% decrease)
* Global digital PC game sales: $5.09 billion (78% increase)
* Global in-game PC ad sales: $1.32 billion (26.8% increase)
* Global subscription and microtransactions: >$5.98 billion (unknown % increase)
* Total 2009 global PC game sales: $14.76 billion-plus (minimum 13.5% increase)

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But remember that we still haven't counted subscription and microtransaction sales into our figures. Even if growth from those segments is slow this year, by 2010 we'll be that much closer to AAA MMO titles like the next World of Warcraft expansion, Bioware's highly anticipated Star Wars: The Old Republic, and DC Universe Online from Sony Online Entertainment. We also have Starcraft II coming out at the end of 2009, along with Diablo III on the horizon after that. Both of those games are PC exclusives almost guaranteed to sell in the millions.

As game and tech writers sharpen their focus on those titles, and (knock wood) presuming the launch of Windows 7 goes smoothly, our second prediction for this post is that in the beginning of 2010, the "death of PC gaming" crowd will be scrambling to see who can proclaim first that PC gaming is healthier than it's ever been.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10291692-1.html

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^ The death of PC gaming has always been, what I call, a piece of B* Americana.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="skektek"]

That isn't exacty a problem. If people don't want to buy the game they aren't going to buy the game. Period. Studies have shown that piracy has little negative effect on sales. All those "pirated" copies of games that developers/publishers see aren't lost sales, they are people that will never buy the game, regardless of whether or not they play it.

imprezawrx500

Unfortuneatly DD will do just that for them. With DD you don't have all the rights that you do with physical media, you can't lend/give a game to a friend/relative or sell the game to recoup some of your costs.

I know a lot of people here are gung ho for DD but the truth it that DD is better for them than us.

I like to ceep my money if I can. So yea ill take free stuff any day of the week I think it is funny how so manny out there get the pay check and 5 days latter there broke. but they at least got there hundreds of dolers of junk to look at. I could care less if they stoped making games becuse of pirates ........life will go on

I dont think every pc gamer is a pirate but for sure is a hell of a problem.. But this problem exist as well on consoles, handhelds and practically every product that is on the market ..

In my case I always buy my games mainly because I love having the physical format and a shiny box with manuals and cover art. This is also the reason why I dont buy my pc games through steam or via download. If games start coming out only on downloadable form I think im gonna freak out!

Most of the PC fanbase are casuals who play Popcap games, so no, not every PC gamer is pirate.

No, though sometimes, I wish I was...