Do you think Gabe Newell's Experience at Microsoft makes him hate PS3?

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#1 KukicAdo
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We all know Gabe hates the PS3. And arguably, he has some valid points.

With Valve's flat out refusal to work on the PS3 at all (Orange Box for PS3 was outsourced to EA ), I got to a little thinking.

Gabe and his partner were both employees of Microsoft for well over 10 years, before leaving and founding Valve. Gabe became a millionaire thanks to Microsoft. Gabe knows Microsoft technology the best and is more than likely most comfortable with, and I'm sure still has connections with MS buddies (not saying moneyhats, but friends who can give him a boost here and there). So why would he dedicate time and money learning PS3's architecture?

So, I guess the point I'm trying to get at is, Gabe's harsh words about the PS3 don't hold as much weight, considiring his history.

What do you guys think?

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#2 NielsNL
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I think you're onto something.

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#3 skrat_01
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Which is why there was a port of Half Life to the PS2 :?
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#4 Jekken6
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Which is why there was a port of Half Life to the PS2 :?skrat_01

Actually, that was outsourced to Gearbox.

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#5 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Which is why there was a port of Half Life to the PS2 :?Jekken6

Actually, that was outsourced to Gearbox.

Still had their priorities on the platform
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#6 Ragashahs
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no simply they like PC hell look at the 360. the only reason 360 is getting L4D and proper ports of Orange Box is becuase the archetecture is very similar to that of a PC. so it doesn't take a lot of effore to port the PC version to the 360. PS3 on the other hand is very different and you have to start from scratch. still not even they really support their 360 community as much as they do their steam/pc community just look how much team fortress 2 has changed since release and 360 version hasn't gotton some of the big patchs

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#7 CreepyBacon
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Nope. Fairly sure it's his experience of working with the PS3 that made him hate the PS3.

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#8 Cherokee_Jack
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You may be right, but that's not any excuse for ignoring his comments about the PS3 architecture.
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#9 walkingdream
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Do you know why he left Microsoft? well apparently he hated it so yeh
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#10 ManicAce
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No, he's a business man and their only loyalty is to profit. PS3 architecture was just too different from PC/360, it would had required a large investment and long term commitment to hire new programmers just for it, which at the time wasn't worth it due to relatively small userbase of PS3. But I'm sure if that changes he won't have any problems developing for Sony consoles.
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#11 Mckenna1845
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they're looking to hire ps3 devs i believe.
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#12 DAZZER7
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We all know Gabe hates the PS3. And arguably, he has some valid points.

With Valve's flat out refusal to work on the PS3 at all (Orange Box for PS3 was outsourced to EA ), I got to a little thinking.

Gabe and his partner were both employees of Microsoft for well over 10 years, before leaving and founding Valve. Gabe became a millionaire thanks to Microsoft. Gabe knows Microsoft technology the best and is more than likely most comfortable with, and I'm sure still has connections with MS buddies (not saying moneyhats, but friends who can give him a boost here and there). So why would he dedicate time and money learning PS3's architecture?

So, I guess the point I'm trying to get at is, Gabe's harsh words about the PS3 don't hold as much weight, considiring his history.

What do you guys think?

KukicAdo

What do you mean "Gabe knows Microsoft technology the best" ?

Are you implying that the PC as a platform is something Microsoft designed?

PC gaming is based on a variety of designs, manufacturers and predominantly x86! The Xbox 360 is based on IBMs PowerPC architecture just like the PS3.When Gabe Newell worked for MS there was Windows, there was no Xbox, there was just typical PC hardware which he would have become acustomed to developing for. Any allegiance you are presuming he feels for Microsoft would not be based on any kind of knowledge of hardware.

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#13 KungfuKitten
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It could be so. But i am not very interested in the psyche of Gabe Newell.
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#14 sikanderahmed
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if xbox 360 had architecture like ps3 then valve wont care about 360 either. they only dev for 360 coz it is not hard to port to 360 from pc. valve is lazy

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#15 DAZZER7
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if xbox 360 had architecture like ps3 then valve wont care about 360 either. they only dev for 360 coz it is not hard to port to 360 from pc. valve is lazy

sikanderahmed

So what DO they do with their time then? I mean if they're "too lazy" and can't be bothered portinga game to the PS3, are they all just sat around doing nothing? Does Gabe Newell employ them with their high salaries to just sit around doing nothing...?

...or

Is it a business and financial decision to invest money into either retraining your existing staff or hire additional more staff that are experienced in developing on the PS3?

Seriously, can you cows stop spamming this?

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#16 SamiRDuran
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Gabe hates Microsoft as much as he hates Sony. He has been caught bashing Microsoft as well.