Do you think if a game wasnt popular it would get a lower score?

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#1 slipknot0129
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Say gear of war,halo 3 and god of war 3wasnt popular would professional game reviewers give it a lower score ? I think they would get a lower score.

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#2 msoftburney
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Popularity does not dictate higher scores. Look at Haze for example, or C&C4.

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#3 treedoor
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Fact is that everyone is susceptible to hype.

It is very possible that a game can score higher based purely on the hype factor because the reviewer is so excited to play it themselves.

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#4 joel_c17
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I believe it effects scores. Look at halo ODST
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#5 SF_KiLLaMaN
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Yes. Reviews are slowly becoming a popularity contest. How else can you explain STALKER Call of Pripyat getting a lower score than MW2?
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#6 TheEroica  Moderator
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I believe it effects scores. Look at halo ODSTjoel_c17
Or MGS4
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#7 BattleTurtles
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Yes. Reviews are slowly becoming a popularity contest. How else can you explain STALKER Call of Pripyat getting a lower score than MW2?SF_KiLLaMaN
MW2 is clearly the better game. Why would I want to stalk people when I can play the best fps ever made?
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#8 osan0
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i think hype has more to do with it. reviewers are still human and sometimes the excitement can get the better of them. a game doesnt necessarily have to be popular....if the markeitng is right and hype gets to fever pitch then faults in the game may not be recognised simply because the reviewer is so happy to be playing it.
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#9 Masterx1220
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if halo wasn't popular ODST wouldn't have gotten a 9. that 9 is utter bull

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#10 Skittles_McGee
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Not enough to matter. A few reviewers here and there might, but on the whole popularity doesn't mean anything. After all, there have been games much more popular than Metroid Prime or Demons Souls, and that didn't stop them from earning high scores and GOTY awards.
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#12 Kandlegoat
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[QUOTE="joel_c17"]I believe it effects scores. Look at halo ODSTTheEroica
Or MGS4

Yeah...MGS4 is great and all...but not 10 great.

if anything, MGS3 was more deserving of a 10

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#13 DragonfireXZ95
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Popularity does not dictate higher scores. Look at Haze for example, or C&C4.

msoftburney
Haze nor C&C4 are very popular. Not even close to the games that the TC mentioned.
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#14 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]Yes. Reviews are slowly becoming a popularity contest. How else can you explain STALKER Call of Pripyat getting a lower score than MW2?BattleTurtles
MW2 is clearly the better game. Why would I want to stalk people when I can play the best fps ever made?

This post made me throw up in my mouth a little.
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#15 BattleTurtles
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[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"][QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]Yes. Reviews are slowly becoming a popularity contest. How else can you explain STALKER Call of Pripyat getting a lower score than MW2?DragonfireXZ95
MW2 is clearly the better game. Why would I want to stalk people when I can play the best fps ever made?

This post made me throw up in my mouth a little.

I was kidding, by the way.
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#16 choppindatmeat
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Hype can lead to both a higher or lower score. If a game is hyped and ends up sucking (KIllzone 1, Haze Lair, Daikatana) it will get a low score since it didn't meet the hype. If a game is hyped and ends up actually being somewhat decent (MGS4, Halo 2, Oblivion, MGS2, WoW) then the score will probably be higher than it should be.
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#17 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="BattleTurtles"] MW2 is clearly the better game. Why would I want to stalk people when I can play the best fps ever made?

This post made me throw up in my mouth a little.

I was kidding, by the way.

Oh ok. :P
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#18 verbalfilth
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Its a split/split situation. Most games don't start out popular. It falls upon all those involved to create a game good enough to fall into the "popularity" bracket. However, once that popularity has been attained, chances are that, even if the follow-up game is crappy, it will still be rated higher than other deserving games. This is mainly because the new game is chilling and basking in the limelight of the genius that came before it. Its how it works.... Halo, MGS, GTA, This rule isn't universal, but its what happens with most...... However, you can only milk a franchise for so long...(again, this rule isn't universal either...I'm looking at you Mario lol)
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#19 AmayaPapaya
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Well hype for sure does help raise a games score. I still don't understand how Killzone 2 managed to get a 9.0.

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#21 kontejner44
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It's not hard to tell if the game is going to be good or notpre release.SMG2 is going to be the best Wii game of 2010. I can predict that with a high certainty without even having played the game.

Hype starts because you know that the probabillity of the game being awesome is high.

Good game => Hype, not the other way around.

There are plenty of 8.5'ers out there that nobody is talking about.

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#22 foxhound_fox
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Popularity does not dictate higher scores. msoftburney

It often does, mostly due to hype and higher expectations. And possible advertising contracts (i.e. Eidos).

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#23 Arach666
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Sometimes it makes all the diference. MGS4 and ODST are perfect examples of this,and even FFXIII,were it not the FF name,I feel that it would have scored even lower. Popularity dictates many ratings,methinks.
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#24 goblaa
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Yes. I don't think they would be MUCH lower (like only .5 to 1.0 lower), but they would be lower. I think the reviewers' personal hype makes them overlook certain flaws in a game.

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#26 Mr_Cumberdale
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Yup. I feel that GTA IV and GoW3 should have scored at least 1 point lower on Gamespot.
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#27 BattleTurtles
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[QUOTE="Calmador"]Yes.... You wanna know why people go to read reviews and critics? Because the tools that go eat up the reviews on games think they are a relaible source.... soooo in order to keep that appearance reviewers are influenced by popularity of games cause if they give a low score to a big franchise with a big fanbase... you'll see fanboys squeellling at the top of thier lungs and they'll lose thier breathe and die.... (twitch) (twitch) and thus losing hits/views on their sites.... or if they live... then the fanboys will think... wow I loved this game and this site gave it a low score! I'm never relying on this site again.... thus less hits/views Here's a good example.... Assassin's Creed series Assassin's Creed 1 was loved by the masses greatly and sold MILLIONS yet got about 80% score by average reviwer http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/930278-assassins-creed/index.html Assassin's Creed 2 came out and is selling millions as well but not average reviewer is about 90% score http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/956858-assassins-creed-ii/index.html Seee kids... this is why you never fully trust reviewers.... but they'll always be a little bunch following reviewers like gaming gods huh (facepalm) I'm here only for the forums btw.

Most people I know thought AC1 was a repetitive borefest.
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#28 Pug-Nasty
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Sometimes, reviewers are people, and they are susceptible to hype as well. I think the lack of certain features being in their full fledged form warps reviews more, like servers for online games being slammed on release day, or the unlocks and what kind of balance is maintained. For this reason I feel that follow-up comments on reviews would be nice, a few weeks after release or so.

Yes, that bothers me.

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#29 Nerkcon
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Very much. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FourPointScale Gamespot only gives really low scores to games that were really bad and no one cared. about. IF they were bad but have a popular following they give them 6 at the lowest.
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#30 SgtKevali
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Yes. Hype does influence reviews.

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#31 35th_shields
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Take a look at Halo 2 or MW2.

There's absolutely no way those games would score 9 and 9.4 if they had not been part of their respective franchise. Truth is, both games should have been rated around a 7.0, but unfortunately, hype and popularity plays a huge role on how a game is rated.

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#32 SgtKevali
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It's not hard to tell if the game is going to be good or notpre release.SMG2 is going to be the best Wii game of 2010. I can predict that with a high certainty without even having played the game.

Hype starts because you know that the probabillity of the game being awesome is high.

Good game => Hype, not the other way around.

There are plenty of 8.5'ers out there that nobody is talking about.

kontejner44

Well, I would counter that often when games are exclusives hype increases arbitrarily.

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#34 thom_maytees
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Ask Famitsu, as it tends to score games that are not popular harshly, while for well-known franchises (e.g. Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, etc.) or games from major publishers (Equare-Enix, Konami, etc.) it tends to give them 33+/40 scores.

At least respectable Western review outlets do not do what the CEO of Enterbrain (Famitsu's publisher) did. This shows the conflict-in-interest Famitsu has with its cozy relationships with major publishers.

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#36 balfe1990
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Take a look at Halo 2 or MW2.

There's absolutely no way those games would score 9 and 9.4 if they had not been part of their respective franchise. Truth is, both games should have been rated around a 7.0, but unfortunately, hype and popularity plays a huge role on how a game is rated.

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Halo 2 deserved that score without a shadow of a doubt, maybe evena 9.5/6..

I was young when I got stumbled upon Halo 1 and was completely oblivious to all the hype etc. surrounding it..

And by God was that game incredible....I then fell in love and eagerly awaited Halo 2..then the hype train started rolling for me...But I was blown away once more and to this day I still think that 2 is the best of the Halos, certainly the one I've put the most hours into...

And to all you MW2 haters out there - Shut Up, you know its a quality game and was well made by a bunch of talented people who poured their heart and soul into it...Fantastic (although shortish) campaign and the MP speaks for itself in terms of hours clocked..Im no MW fan but I'm not gonna try and deny it a score of 9.0..

I think a lot of people don't like it because of the hype...

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#37 DJ_Headshot
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Hype and money can defiantly influence how high a review score can be.
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We should ask the admins about Kane and Lynch: Dead Man
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#39 TacticalDesire
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Without a doubt, GTAIV Halo:ODST and God of War 3 all fall into this category. None of them deserved what they got all were 8.5 games.

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#40 MangaJ
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Grand Theft Auto IV wasn't in any way deserving of a 10.

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#41 AndyAlfredo
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On some sites/in some magazines, yes.

I think most are pretty good at keeping popularity out of the score.

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#42 aroxx_ab
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I think it is other way around, popular games can get lower score because it not live up to the high expectations.

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#43 dercoo
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I would not necessarily say popularity can boost scores, but hype can (GTA4)

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#44 BenGenio
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If might work both ways, if the game is not popular at all (low expectations) and it turns out to be a solid game, then the reviewer might give it a high score, example: Chronicles of Riddick on the Xbox.

When reviewers expect a lot from a game, for example: Alan Wake, I'm quoting GameTrailers here, "Aland Wake has been over 6 years in development" it might hurt the score, because they might expect a lot from a game that has been a long time in development.

When there is a lot of hype, they might also get caught up in it, just like when GTA 4 was released, a 9.5 or 9.0 should have been fine.

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#45 iBear-
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If might work both ways, if the game is not popular at all (low expectations) and it turns out to be a solid game, then the reviewer might give it a high score, example: Chronicles of Riddick on the Xbox.

When reviewers expect a lot from a game, for example: Alan Wake, I'm quoting GameTrailers here, "Aland Wake has been over 6 years in development" it might hurt the score, because they might expect a lot from a game that has been a long time in development.

When there is a lot of hype, they might also get caught up in it, just like when GTA 4 was released, a 9.5 or 9.0 should have been fine.

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#46 Rockman999
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Say gear of war,halo 3 and god of war 3wasnt popular would professional game reviewers give it a lower score ? I think they would get a lower score.

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