Do you think motion controllers will make developers care less about PC gaming?

We all know thatSOME developers don't pay much attention to PC gamers nowadays (look at Ubisoft for their DRM, plus they refuse to release Prince of Persia DLC to PC gamers). Some devs just make console games, and then port them over to PC later on, meaning the PC market is simply an after-thought to them. Now, with Move and Natal coming up on the horizon, do you think devs will spend lots of money on motion sensing, then find they don't have enough money left over to support PC gamers? Natal and Move will obviously cost millions to develop for, so thats what gets me worried. What if they take that money out of PC game investment, then use it for motion sensing instead? Furthermore, you cannot port a motion control game over to PC (unles MS allows PCs to use Natal)

I have been gaming on my PC alot lately, especially with BF:BC2 which I am addicted to. I would hate PC gaming to lose support in favor of devs spending money on motion control instead of optomising their games for PC. I love PC gaming, and I love motion control, but hopefully devs wont take from one and give to the other. Your thoughts?

Nah I'm sure every developer out there is chomping at the bit to make 5 different SKUs.... A Wii version, a PS3 version, a Move version, a 360 version, and a Natal version.... And I'm sure after all of that, complete with different rendering modes, on different hardware with different architectures, and different operating systems/APIs along with entirely separate gameplay mechanics tailor made to each control type, they'll have plenty of money laying around for PC. Oh wait, or they could cut their losses and realize that all of those platforms are "Me too!" money sinks and just make a PC SKU instead of the stupid motion sensing support, which requires volumes of R&D, new level design, and lots of coding.Brownesque

1. Natal is compatible with Windows

2. I really don't see how motion controls will attract a lot of PC or even console centric developers (eg;look at the Wii, sure a lot of developers try and try to make non casual/'hardcore' but how many actually received acclaim along with sales?)

3. If developers will migrate then rest assured they will either:

a. Fail and migrate back

b. Continue to support PC regardless or making motion controls an option like controllers/gamepads (as with many pc games)

c. Even if they do migrate, developers come and go in the pc platform, as long as the pc remains an open platform there will always be developers.

1. Natal is compatible with Windows

2. I really don't see how motion controls will attract a lot of PC or even console centric developers (eg;look at the Wii, sure a lot of developers try and try to make non casual/'hardcore' but how many actually received acclaim along with sales?)

3. If developers will migrate then rest assured they will either:

a. Fail and migrate back

b. Continue to support PC regardless or making motion controls an option like controllers/gamepads (as with many pc games)

c. Even if they do migrate, developers come and go in the pc platform, as long as the pc remains an open platform there will always be developers.

if anything it'd make more console devs want to make cross platform games on the PC

since the PC already has motion controls ;)

Have you seen TrackIR for PC, motion controlling is there, it's just alot of people don't care... I for one, don't care for this gen motion controlling on consoles... but that's just my opinion.

I believe it will help PC gaming.

If the future is all motion control, some devs will say "eff this crap" and make games for the PC, where they are free to make whatever game they wish. Others will say "motion control is sweet!" and make games multiplatform or console exclusive.

although PC gaming will never die, it is certainly ageing.gamebreakerz__

Ageing? I'm not sure I get your point...

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]although PC gaming will never die, it is certainly ageing.Bebi_vegeta

Ageing? I'm not sure I get your point...

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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]although PC gaming will never die, it is certainly ageing.PandaBear86

Ageing? I'm not sure I get your point...

LOL, nice reply! :lol:

I think all the developers know that there is a pretty big market for casual motion sensing titles. It's the matter of what they want to do/achieve with their games.

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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]although PC gaming will never die, it is certainly ageing.PandaBear86

Ageing? I'm not sure I get your point...

We all know thatSOME developers don't pay much attention to PC gamers nowadays (look at Ubisoft for their DRM, plus they refuse to release Prince of Persia DLC to PC gamers). Some devs just make console games, and then port them over to PC later on, meaning the PC market is simply an after-thought to them. Now, with Move and Natal coming up on the horizon, do you think devs will spend lots of money on motion sensing, then find they don't have enough money left over to support PC gamers? Natal and Move will obviously cost millions to develop for, so thats what gets me worried. What if they take that money out of PC game investment, then use it for motion sensing instead? Furthermore, you cannot port a motion control game over to PC (unles MS allows PCs to use Natal)

I have been gaming on my PC alot lately, especially with BF:BC2 which I am addicted to. I would hate PC gaming to lose support in favor of devs spending money on motion control instead of optomising their games for PC. I love PC gaming, and I love motion control, but hopefully devs wont take from one and give to the other. Your thoughts?

PandaBear86

If anything I think PC gaming would make devs care less about motion controllers. Muhahaha... but seriously my take is that motion controls is a gimmick that won't live through the next-generation of consoles. I believe many developers think that it's very gimmicky which is reason #1 why Wii lacks a lot of third-party backing from the better developers and why Sony and MS have to weigh-out insentives to developers to produce for their product.

Gaming will evolve, I just don't think that this motion stuff is solidly going anywhere at this point in time, just taking advantage of the situation. So no, I don't think motion controllers will have any affect on PC gaming. Developer concerns are more along the lines of piracy and market appeal when it comes to PC.

If anything I think PC gaming would make devs care less about motion controllers. Muhahaha... but seriously my take is that motion controls is a gimmick that won't live through the next-generation of consoles. I believe many developers think that it's very gimmicky which is reason #1 why Wii lacks a lot of third-party backing from the better developers and why Sony and MS have to weigh-out insentives to developers to produce for their product.

Mystic-G

The Wii lacks third party developers for two main reasons, neither of which are directly related to motion controls: One, the significant difference in performance makes porting games from the other two current gen systems difficult. And two, third party games just don't seem to sell very well on it.

Motion controls are not merely a gimmick. Properly implemented they can give a level of control that simply isn't possible with any conventional controller.

PC has all been about the graphicsKane04

If you want to make silly defining divisions find me a game on any other system nearly as deep and complex as Dwarf Fortress.

Go on.

Or why massivley popular and diverse games such as World of Warcraft, Counter Strike, The Sims were never on the cuttting edge of visual fidelity?

PC gaming thrives on the broad scope of games, visuals are there for console and video card manafactures to show off hardware.

What will sell aternative controls is the systems of design, not the hardware.

Cows and Lemming spent years taking the p*** out of the Wii for its waggle stick. Now they are getting it, people are using it as another excuse to bash PC? :roll:

What makes it all so so sad is the Wii supposedly started it all, but the Wii got their motion sensor technology from a PC motion sensor mouse.

Motion controls are a gimmick. Developers will realize it sooner or later. The ones that already have are sticking with the PC. There's nothing to worry about.

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If anything I think PC gaming would make devs care less about motion controllers. Muhahaha... but seriously my take is that motion controls is a gimmick that won't live through the next-generation of consoles. I believe many developers think that it's very gimmicky which is reason #1 why Wii lacks a lot of third-party backing from the better developers and why Sony and MS have to weigh-out insentives to developers to produce for their product.

ThePlothole

The Wii lacks third party developers for two main reasons, neither of which are directly related to motion controls: One, the significant difference in performance makes porting games from the other two current gen systems difficult. And two, third party games just don't seem to sell very well on it.

Motion controls are not merely a gimmick. Properly implemented they can give a level of control that simply isn't possible with any conventional controller.