Do you think next gen consoles will have games that look better than crysis?

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Even those pic's dont look much better then the Doom 3 engine can do, gamecubepad

Not to mention the first one is concept art. :?

Ive played that exact same scene in the game :|

Kind of proves that yes the game does look that good.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

That picture isnt even good and doesnt do the game justice, anyone hear who has played GOW3 knows its better looking then HL2 I dont see how anyone could really debate that. Its alway a shame when people judge visuals by screenshots but lets find some good ones.

LMAO omg and people call me a troll?

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Even those pic's dont look much better then the Doom 3 engine can do, gamecubepad

Not to mention the first one is concept art. :?

Ive played that exact same scene in the game :|

Kind of proves that yes the game does look that good and if your arguing the Doom 3 engine is even in the same league then i shouldnt even respond to you anymore .

also ground textures of the 2009 l4d2 and the udk using the march 2010 unreal engine.

l4d2:

march 2010 unreal engine

now lets take a look at modded hl2 again:

its not a matter of optimization or anything it is just that the consoles do not have the memory to use this detail in their textures all around. this mod requires 3gb of ram to run without crashing.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Even those pic's dont look much better then the Doom 3 engine can do, 04dcarraher

LMAO omg and people call me a troll?

Then get your eyes checked :|

LOL no it wont becaue by 2012 both will easily be able to max all the assets . Your on DX11 coming up if we go all the way to 2012 will be on about DX12 they will simply have feature and technology that are not availble right now . Regardless the term (MUCH BETTER) is going to get smaller and smaller as time goes on. They had a interiview with the lead designer of Crytek (Cevat Yeril did i spell that right?) He said the next consoles will basically be equivlent to high end CGI.

TheSterls

With mods Crysis will easily compete with early next-gen games. Also, like I said before, a 2012 PC with modded and tod tweaked Crysis 2 will trounce a 2012 console running the same game. Now if consoles release in 2015 that won't be the case.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

LMAO omg and people call me a troll?

TheSterls

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Then get your eyes checked :|

Again you took what said backwards, I said it reminds me of the over done bump mapping done in some games.

Ive played that exact same scene in the game :|

Kind of proves that yes the game does look that good and if your arguing the Doom 3 engine is even in the same league then i shouldnt even respond to you anymore .

TheSterls

I didn't say it was concept art because it looked good, it was because it looked awful. Maybe 1up has a crappy capture system. This is that pic at full size...

Is that aliasing for real? I can't even see his face.

No... Crysis is a game that has been specifically designed to be future proof... To this day, any moderately priced hardware still wont max it out in every sense.

Games next gen will probably reach the gig of ram standard but I doubt that would be even close to enough for a game like Crysis. Remember though that the first game was spectacularly wide open as opposed to Crysis 2 (at least from what I have seen of it).

No... Crysis is a game that has been specifically designed to be future proof... To this day, any moderately priced hardware still wont max it out in every sense.

Games next gen will probably reach the gig of ram standard but I doubt that would be even close to enough for a game like Crysis. Remember though that the first game was spectacularly wide open as opposed to Crysis 2 (at least from what I have seen of it).

Leejjohno

Just my thought on it.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Ive played that exact same scene in the game :|

Kind of proves that yes the game does look that good and if your arguing the Doom 3 engine is even in the same league then i shouldnt even respond to you anymore .

gamecubepad

I didn't say it was concept art because it looked good, it was because it looked awful. Maybe 1up has a crappy capture system. This is that pic at full size...

Is that aliasing for real? I can't even see his face.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Ive played that exact same scene in the game :|

Kind of proves that yes the game does look that good and if your arguing the Doom 3 engine is even in the same league then i shouldnt even respond to you anymore .

gamecubepad

I didn't say it was concept art because it looked good, it was because it looked awful. Maybe 1up has a crappy capture system. This is that pic at full size...

Is that aliasing for real? I can't even see his face.

That's pixelation/stretching, not aliasing.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Ive played that exact same scene in the game :|

Kind of proves that yes the game does look that good and if your arguing the Doom 3 engine is even in the same league then i shouldnt even respond to you anymore .

gamecubepad

I didn't say it was concept art because it looked good, it was because it looked awful. Maybe 1up has a crappy capture system. This is that pic at full size...

Is that aliasing for real? I can't even see his face.

GOW3 virtually has no jaggies it uses a blur effect they said is equivelent to about 4xMSAA . And you blew the pic up larger then it was meant to be shown thats why it looks crappy, you basically took a compressed pic and stretched it.

No... Crysis is a game that has been specifically designed to be future proof... To this day, any moderately priced hardware still wont max it out in every sense.

Games next gen will probably reach the gig of ram standard but I doubt that would be even close to enough for a game like Crysis. Remember though that the first game was spectacularly wide open as opposed to Crysis 2 (at least from what I have seen of it).

Leejjohno

LMAO what? Next gen consoles will have far more then 1 gig of ram. Look at the history. The Xbox had 64 mb of Ram the 360 now has 512 thats a increase of 8x. If we go by that standard the next consoles will have at least 4 gigs of ram and it will be far faster ram then what is available today , not to mention video cards with features and functions that simply are not available today. Crysis now will look pretty low end compared to what you see the next gen , denying that is basically saying that technology will stand still for the next 3 years.

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Ive played that exact same scene in the game :|

Kind of proves that yes the game does look that good and if your arguing the Doom 3 engine is even in the same league then i shouldnt even respond to you anymore .

TheSterls

I didn't say it was concept art because it looked good, it was because it looked awful. Maybe 1up has a crappy capture system. This is that pic at full size...

Is that aliasing for real? I can't even see his face.

GOW3 virtually has no jaggies it uses a blur effect they said is equivelent to about 4xMSAA . And you blew the pic up larger then it was meant to be shown thats why it looks crappy, you basically took a compressed pic and stretched it.

NATIVE RESOLUTION OF THE SCREENSHOT 2560x1440

http://www.1up.com/media/03/7/4/6/lg/239.jpg

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Ive played that exact same scene in the game :|

Kind of proves that yes the game does look that good and if your arguing the Doom 3 engine is even in the same league then i shouldnt even respond to you anymore .

TheSterls

I didn't say it was concept art because it looked good, it was because it looked awful. Maybe 1up has a crappy capture system. This is that pic at full size...

Is that aliasing for real? I can't even see his face.

GOW3 virtually has no jaggies it uses a blur effect they said is equivelent to about 4xMSAA . And you blew the pic up larger then it was meant to be shown thats why it looks crappy, you basically took a compressed pic and stretched it.

I am sure crysis will be able to be done on next gen consoles if the next gen does not go the way of the wii.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

I didn't say it was concept art because it looked good, it was because it looked awful. Maybe 1up has a crappy capture system. This is that pic at full size...

Is that aliasing for real? I can't even see his face.

NVIDIATI

GOW3 virtually has no jaggies it uses a blur effect they said is equivelent to about 4xMSAA . And you blew the pic up larger then it was meant to be shown thats why it looks crappy, you basically took a compressed pic and stretched it.

NATIVE RESOLUTION OF THE SCREENSHOT 2560x1440

http://www.1up.com/media/03/7/4/6/lg/239.jpg

I copied and pasted it direclty to the forum ,The original image is1509x849 look at the image I posted. He stretched the image when he reposted it therefore it looks like crap . Play the game and you wouldnt argue with me. Also click on the image and hit properties you are wrong :|

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

I didn't say it was concept art because it looked good, it was because it looked awful. Maybe 1up has a crappy capture system. This is that pic at full size...

Is that aliasing for real? I can't even see his face.

TheSterls

I copied and pasted it direclty to the forum ,The original image is1509x849 look at the image I posted. He stretched the image when he reposted it therefore it looks like crap . Play the game and you wouldnt argue with me. Also click on the image and hit properties you are wrong :|

No. The original size 2560x1440, exactly 2x the scale of 1280x720. What a coincidence. :shock:

I love the irony of somebody posting a bunk link, and then blaming another user for showing the pic from the link. Your browser is autosizing the pic. If you're in Firefox try 'Save Image As' or 'Copy Image' and then open/paste it into a image editor and tell me the resolution. You really think GOW3 runs in 1509x849?

Anyway, this one is on you and 1up. Leave me out of it.

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

GOW3 virtually has no jaggies it uses a blur effect they said is equivelent to about 4xMSAA . And you blew the pic up larger then it was meant to be shown thats why it looks crappy, you basically took a compressed pic and stretched it.

NATIVE RESOLUTION OF THE SCREENSHOT 2560x1440

http://www.1up.com/media/03/7/4/6/lg/239.jpg

I copied and pasted it direclty to the forum ,The original image is1509x849 look at the image I posted. He stretched the image when he reposted it therefore it looks like crap . Play the game and you wouldnt argue with me. Also click on the image and hit properties you are wrong :|

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

GOW3 virtually has no jaggies it uses a blur effect they said is equivelent to about 4xMSAA . And you blew the pic up larger then it was meant to be shown thats why it looks crappy, you basically took a compressed pic and stretched it.

TheSterls

NATIVE RESOLUTION OF THE SCREENSHOT 2560x1440

http://www.1up.com/media/03/7/4/6/lg/239.jpg

I copied and pasted it direclty to the forum ,The original image is1509x849 look at the image I posted. He stretched the image when he reposted it therefore it looks like crap . Play the game and you wouldnt argue with me. Also click on the image and hit properties you are wrong :|

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] You just owned yourself

NATIVE RESOLUTION OF THE SCREENSHOT 2560x1440

http://www.1up.com/media/03/7/4/6/lg/239.jpg

Arach666

I copied and pasted it direclty to the forum ,The original image is1509x849 look at the image I posted. He stretched the image when he reposted it therefore it looks like crap . Play the game and you wouldnt argue with me. Also click on the image and hit properties you are wrong :|

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

I copied and pasted it direclty to the forum ,The original image is1509x849 look at the image I posted. He stretched the image when he reposted it therefore it looks like crap . Play the game and you wouldnt argue with me. Also click on the image and hit properties you are wrong :|

NVIDIATI

[QUOTE="Leejjohno"]No... Crysis is a game that has been specifically designed to be future proof... To this day, any moderately priced hardware still wont max it out in every sense.

Games next gen will probably reach the gig of ram standard but I doubt that would be even close to enough for a game like Crysis. Remember though that the first game was spectacularly wide open as opposed to Crysis 2 (at least from what I have seen of it).TheSterls

So consoles may actually run every single game in 720p or even 1080p? Interesting. I wonder what launch costs will be like, though.

@TheSterls hope that the next gen consoles will run games with 1920x1080, 60fps and with high-resolution textures.:lol:

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

I didn't say it was concept art because it looked good, it was because it looked awful. Maybe 1up has a crappy capture system. This is that pic at full size...

Is that aliasing for real? I can't even see his face.

gamecubepad

I copied and pasted it direclty to the forum ,The original image is1509x849 look at the image I posted. He stretched the image when he reposted it therefore it looks like crap . Play the game and you wouldnt argue with me. Also click on the image and hit properties you are wrong :|

No. The original size 2560x1440, exactly 2x the scale of 1280x720. What a coincidence. :shock:

I love the irony of somebody posting a bunk link, and then blaming another user for showing the pic from the link. Your browser is autosizing the pic. If you're in Firefox try 'Save Image As' or 'Copy Image' and then open/paste it into a image editor and tell me the resolution. You really think GOW3 runs in 1509x849?

Anyway, this one is on you and 1up. Leave me out of it.

That's 4 times th resolution, not 2. We are in 2D here, so everything is squared.