Do you think Sony has a better first party than Nintendo?

I think Nintendo clearly has the better lineup. I mean, nothing competes against the likes of Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Super Smash, Pokemon. But cows all over the world will argue that Sony has better first part franchises. I mean, only Uncharted and God of War, according to me, will ever be capable of recieving the prestige and acclaim that, say, Zelda or Mario do.

So, I know it's blasphemous to even ask questions lke these, but this as been a topic of discussion on SW before. So... who has a beter first party- Sony or Nintendo?

EDIT: Sorry about the typo in the title! It's been edited.

yeah i think they have beer all the time.

Not really, I don't even think its comparable tbh. That's just me though. Sony doesn't lead at anything at all when they make 1st party games. Other publishers and developers just run circles around them unless we are talking about graphics. Nintendo makes games that a) never get outdated and b) are at the top of their class through and through. I won't give a damn and nobody else will about Heavy Rain, Resistance (hell I don't care about Resistance now), Killzone (same as Resistance), inFamous, etc 5 years from now and they'll be outdated too. Same isn't true for SMG, DKCR, S&P2, MP3 etc

Oh snap, shots fired right?

Sony has beer?

Barcelona is better than Manchester United.

Whoooo beer!!!!

Overall: Nintendo

This gen: Sony

Sony is good but not as good as Nintendo in terms of 1st Party games.

Sony just needs a few more series. Nintendo released 200 games between the DS and Wii and 80 of those were new IPs.

Beer?

Depends on what you favor

Nintendo= nostalga

Sony= newer IPs

Barcelona is better than Manchester United.

call_of_duty_10

PS: People, sorry about the typo, but come on, we had a few laughs :P Anyway, I edited it.

Barcelona is better than Manchester United.

call_of_duty_10

yes i think overall sony has a better first party.campzor

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Barcelona is better than Manchester United.

BigBoss255

Nintendo overall, although this gen I have liked Sony's first-party a lot more.

[QUOTE="campzor"]yes i think overall sony has a better first party.khoofia_pika

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Barcelona is better than Manchester United.

BigBoss255

Yep,that's why they beat Barcelona and won the final....Oh wait:D

Sony, they seem to be more foward looking and willing to try new things. Nintendo seems to be too comfortable with their past line of sucessful franchises.

Sony, they seem to be more foward looking and willing to try new things. Nintendo seems to be too comfortable with their past line of sucessful franchises.

casharmy

Sony, they seem to be more foward looking and willing to try new things. Nintendo seems to be too comfortable with their past line of sucessful franchises.

casharmy

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Sony, they seem to be more foward looking and willing to try new things. Nintendo seems to be too comfortable with their past line of sucessful franchises.

Nintendo_Ownes7

I'm not even sure whats considered first party anymore...any ol' exclusive or what? For nintendo. i always thought of mario and zelda's main games to be the only true first party titles from them. Someone inform me.kidcool189

MGS4 is NOT first party, Uncharted IS.

Muramasa is NOT first party, Donkey Kong IS.

lol, in that case, there goes one of PS3's best exclusives in this poll :(.

Sony for sure. Mario sucks.

This gen? Sony easily.

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Sony, they seem to be more foward looking and willing to try new things. Nintendo seems to be too comfortable with their past line of sucessful franchises.

Chris_Williams

About half of the new IP are Japan Only and 10 of the Japan Only ones are Shovelware some of them I have no idea what they are as I don't speak Japanese.

But the rest isn't shovelware of the Japan only.

For the US I can only think of most of the DSiware and Wiiware stuff is Shovelware but there is still alot that is really good.

Wii titles only 1 new IP for the Wii is Casual and that is the Wii Series.

Depends on what you favor

Nintendo= nostalga

Sony= newer IPs

dercoo

nos·tal·gi·a

1. A bittersweet longing for things, persons, or situations of the past.

Nostalgia is playing an NES or other past game. Nostalgia IS NOT playing/hyping upcoming games, remakes or not.

I prefer sonys......but thats just cause i'm older now and they serve more of my interest in new styles or mixing of genres and customizable games....and i still enjoy mario, zelda, metriod, even smash bros or mario kart....but look at little big planet? Modnation racers? Uncharted? God of war? Sony is catching up. Sure mario was first and it was great and galaxy is great but it's still the alot of the same ideas in a different light. Gotta vote sony here.

Sony.Arach666

Well, i enjoyed uncharted more then all first party nintendo games this generation, corruption was a poor excuse of a game compared to prime and echoes. Then again, i'm a much more social gamer and prefer games that i enjoy with more people then myself.

No, and not even remotely close either. I've bought Nintendo platforms just for their exclusives, while Sony has never ever given me that type of incentive to buy their products.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]Sony.charizard1605

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The only people who would think otherwise are 1) people who have never played a non-Sony game, 2) people who think being "mature" involves playing "M-rated" games, or 3) Sony fanboys who have a distorted view on what makes a game "good." Nintendo's first party offerings are LEAPS AND BOUNDS greater than anything else out there. They input a level of detail and intricacy that other developers could only imagine having the talent to pull off. And their ability to polish games to near perfection and make them accessible yet challenging is something most game developers these days have no understanding about. I do think Retro Studios however, does have the edge over any other development studio within Nintendo right now. They have a team of dedicated individuals who know how to express their vision for a game in an astonishingly detailed manner. The amount of blood, sweat, tears and love they put into a game shows in how well it plays, and the absolutely INSANE amount of detail in the environments they build.kidcool189

Not well said. Just take off the Nintendo rose colored glasses for a minute. Some gamers just are not into games with primary colors and cartoon characters anymore. I would much prefer a Uncharted or Infamous game than a Mario or Smash Bros game. I like the adult, realistic characters and story lines more than the one diminsional, cartoon Mario saves the princess again stories that are churned out year after year. But somehow my tastes are distorted.

Depends on what you favor

Nintendo= nostalga

Sony= newer IPs

dercoo

but Nintendo's old franchises remain fresher than sony's new IPs IMHO.

To me, most of Sony's franchises are rather lackluster. Both Uncharted 2 and god of War are pretty meh and the sly series is horrible. Both inFAMOUS and Modnation Racers are far better games. In the end there are only a handful of sony titles I actually like.

Nintendo, on the other hand, make at least one masterpiece every gen and have countless ****cs. If there is one thing Nintendo is the best at, it's quality level design and imagination.

[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The only people who would think otherwise are 1) people who have never played a non-Sony game, 2) people who think being "mature" involves playing "M-rated" games, or 3) Sony fanboys who have a distorted view on what makes a game "good." Nintendo's first party offerings are LEAPS AND BOUNDS greater than anything else out there. They input a level of detail and intricacy that other developers could only imagine having the talent to pull off. And their ability to polish games to near perfection and make them accessible yet challenging is something most game developers these days have no understanding about. I do think Retro Studios however, does have the edge over any other development studio within Nintendo right now. They have a team of dedicated individuals who know how to express their vision for a game in an astonishingly detailed manner. The amount of blood, sweat, tears and love they put into a game shows in how well it plays, and the absolutely INSANE amount of detail in the environments they build.Videodogg

Not well said. Just take off the Nintendo rose colored glasses for a minute. Some gamers just are not into games with primary colors and cartoon characters anymore. I would much prefer a Uncharted or Infamous game than a Mario or Smash Bros game. I like the adult, realistic characters and story lines more than the one diminsional, cartoon Mario saves the princess again stories that are churned out year after year. But somehow my tastes are distorted.

That has nothing to do with what is better or not. I hate FPS games but that doesn't mean that I can go around saying Dora the explorer games are "BETTER" because I like colour and not mindless shooting. This isn't about taste, its about looking at something objectively and trying to remove your tastes from the equation. Also, there is nothing adult about anything Sony produces for the most part. Being adult is not something you strive for, you can't be an adult if you're concerned about being an adult.

[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The only people who would think otherwise are 1) people who have never played a non-Sony game, 2) people who think being "mature" involves playing "M-rated" games, or 3) Sony fanboys who have a distorted view on what makes a game "good." Nintendo's first party offerings are LEAPS AND BOUNDS greater than anything else out there. They input a level of detail and intricacy that other developers could only imagine having the talent to pull off. And their ability to polish games to near perfection and make them accessible yet challenging is something most game developers these days have no understanding about. I do think Retro Studios however, does have the edge over any other development studio within Nintendo right now. They have a team of dedicated individuals who know how to express their vision for a game in an astonishingly detailed manner. The amount of blood, sweat, tears and love they put into a game shows in how well it plays, and the absolutely INSANE amount of detail in the environments they build.Videodogg

Not well said. Just take off the Nintendo rose colored glasses for a minute. Some gamers just are not into games with primary colors and cartoon characters anymore. I would much prefer a Uncharted or Infamous game than a Mario or Smash Bros game. I like the adult, realistic characters and story lines more than the one diminsional, cartoon Mario saves the princess again stories that are churned out year after year. But somehow my tastes are distorted.

As a gamer, I feel that gameplay and level design should bemy primary concern and not the superficial aspects that surround it... but that's just my personal view on gaming

[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]The only people who would think otherwise are 1) people who have never played a non-Sony game, 2) people who think being "mature" involves playing "M-rated" games, or 3) Sony fanboys who have a distorted view on what makes a game "good." Nintendo's first party offerings are LEAPS AND BOUNDS greater than anything else out there. They input a level of detail and intricacy that other developers could only imagine having the talent to pull off. And their ability to polish games to near perfection and make them accessible yet challenging is something most game developers these days have no understanding about. I do think Retro Studios however, does have the edge over any other development studio within Nintendo right now. They have a team of dedicated individuals who know how to express their vision for a game in an astonishingly detailed manner. The amount of blood, sweat, tears and love they put into a game shows in how well it plays, and the absolutely INSANE amount of detail in the environments they build.Videodogg

Not well said. Just take off the Nintendo rose colored glasses for a minute. Some gamers just are not into games with primary colors and cartoon characters anymore. I would much prefer a Uncharted or Infamous game than a Mario or Smash Bros game. I like the adult, realistic characters and story lines more than the one diminsional, cartoon Mario saves the princess again stories that are churned out year after year. But somehow my tastes are distorted.

[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

Not well said. Just take off the Nintendo rose colored glasses for a minute. Some gamers just are not into games with primary colors and cartoon characters anymore. I would much prefer a Uncharted or Infamous game than a Mario or Smash Bros game. I like the adult, realistic characters and story lines more than the one diminsional, cartoon Mario saves the princess again stories that are churned out year after year. But somehow my tastes are distorted.

ActicEdge

That has nothing to do with what is better or not. I hate FPS games but that doesn't mean that I can go around saying Dora the explorer games are "BETTER" because I like colour and not mindless shooting. This isn't about taste, its about looking at something objectively and trying to remove your tastes from the equation. Also, there is nothing adult about anything Sony produces for the most part. Being adult is not something you strive for, you can't be an adult if you're concerned about being an adult.

"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." C S Lewis

Well, seeing how I want to be able to play games w/my friends, and the fact that Sony is probably a lot better with online gaming than Nintendo, I'd rather go with Sony's first-party games. If you are into single-player gaming, then maybe Nintendo seems more appealing to you, but I am looking into online multiplayer and co-op more, so that I can understand games better. Also, it should help make me more social that way, at least by a little bit, rather than always gaming on my own.

Overall, Nintendo and Sony, I think, are at a tie, with the DS and the PS3 beating out their opponents in terms of exclusives.

Either way, unless I choose to have children in the future, I'm likely going to remain with Sony for a long time.

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[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

Not well said. Just take off the Nintendo rose colored glasses for a minute. Some gamers just are not into games with primary colors and cartoon characters anymore. I would much prefer a Uncharted or Infamous game than a Mario or Smash Bros game. I like the adult, realistic characters and story lines more than the one diminsional, cartoon Mario saves the princess again stories that are churned out year after year. But somehow my tastes are distorted.

Nintendo_Ownes7

That has nothing to do with what is better or not. I hate FPS games but that doesn't mean that I can go around saying Dora the explorer games are "BETTER" because I like colour and not mindless shooting. This isn't about taste, its about looking at something objectively and trying to remove your tastes from the equation. Also, there is nothing adult about anything Sony produces for the most part. Being adult is not something you strive for, you can't be an adult if you're concerned about being an adult.

"Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." ~ C. S. Lewis

I absolutely adore this quote. It is so hard to argue against it because of its truthfulness and it is so easy to use in System Wars arguments regarding "kiddy Nintendo"