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#1 thrones
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Simple question, if you were given a button to let Microsoft win the console wars. Would you?

As an aside, I'm sticking this in:

I'm 90% sure that Microsoft will win the console wars in the end, by that time I'll probably have stopped gaming or gone PC exclusive :|

EDIT: By winning, I meant. Final, winning. As in Nintendo and Sony dropping out.

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#2 chikenfriedrice
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yes...I love me sum M$....thanks goodness for the xbox and for the xbox 360

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#3 spinecaton
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As long as there is still competition and everything is priced within reason, I don't care.
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#4 Ragnarok1051
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No because I'm pretty sure they would monopolize the industry.
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#5 Verge_6
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As long as I get some awesome games out of this little product war, I'm fine with whoever. With that said, I don't think Sony winning would set a good example for the other companies. I don't want another half game console half movie player again. let's keep the industry game focused, a'ight?
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#6 -GhostMLD-
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MS has stated that they will own console gaming in a 3 generation cycle. One way or another, they will dominate and buy out whatever they need to win.

But you right, we will all be out of gaming by then, itll be our younger generations that will play their games.

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#7 Nero_Paladin
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No because I'm pretty sure they would monopolize the industry. Ragnarok1051

I agree

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#8 EPaul
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I dont care who wins as long as i get to play games
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#9 dream431ca
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Nobody really wins. They only win if their major competitor drops out.
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#10 WilliamRLBaker
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As long as i get great games i dont care.

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#11 jg4xchamp
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As long as they lose the next gen or something I am fine.

Nintendo got smug. they lost, they got innovative with the Wii and DS......a few complaints aside i loved the new Metroid and Mario Galaxy....

Sony won 2 gens easily and got smug, they will lose this gen, be competitive with microsoft and won't make the same profits they made the previous 2 gens because they won't have a 100 million selling console this time by.. So software sales won't be so amazing for them.

So Microsoft can win, just so long as they don't keep winning.
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#12 0rin
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No because I'm pretty sure they would monopolize the industry. Ragnarok1051


nah. Microsoft, if they were to somehow be able to monopolize the console industry, they would just destroy the console industry, and make everyone buy windows Vista, by having the games come out exclusively for Vista... probably.

But as far as just "winning the war", It woudln't really matter. For instance, look at Sony. They dominated (sales wise) the past few gens. Did that mean they all of a sudden ... monopolized the other consoles? No. "Winning" is just a theoretical term. But as such, it IS possible to "win", via sales, and overall enjoyment.

I really think Sony will "win" this one, due to the long-term thinking of them when they made the PS3. in 4-5 years when they come out with the PS4, the PS3 will still be supported for another few years. The 360 just has too many hardware issues and not enough future-proofing (no HD media disk format, no 1080p native support). But It is definitely a solid console, and I think if MS pulls their heads out for the 720, they could actually give Sony and Nintendo a run for their money.

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#13 thrones
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By winning, I meant. Final, winning. As in Nintendo and Sony dropping out.
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#14 Flamestos
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No, companies like Microsoft are bad for the industry in my opinion. Using whatever tactics needed to get a victory no matter how small, useless excessive milking and the potential to monopolize the industry so you'd be force to pay whatever they ask regardless of quality no thank you.
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#15 Floppy_Jim
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Simple question, if you were given a button to let Microsoft win the console wars. Would you?

As an aside, I'm sticking this in:

I'm 90% sure that Microsoft will win the console wars in the end, by that time I'll probably have stopped gaming or gone PC exclusive :|

EDIT: By winning, I meant. Final, winning. As in Nintendo and Sony dropping out.

thrones

What makes you say this?

No, I don't want Microsoft to win, quite the opposite in fact. And as long as Sony and Nintendo are around, I don't see them ever winning.

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#16 Verge_6
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By winning, I meant. Final, winning. As in Nintendo and Sony dropping out.thrones

...Why worry about which company would totally monopolize the industry when that would most likely mean the total destruction of console gaming?

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#17 Eltroz
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I would not mind at all. I have really enjoyed the games that MS has put out and XBL is the best online of the consoles. I have nothing agaisnt Nintendo but for my taste I do not enjoy the way they are going. I hate the way Sony trys to backdoor products to help other areas of their company and say it is needed for gamming or all the other lies that Sony loves to do. What is sad is how many still believe their lies.

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#18 snorlaxlove007
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I do want them to win but at the same time i want competition. Because if microsoft dominates then they will be the ones doing whatever with us. Look at it like this when microsoft came out with the xbox they were the ones with the most powerful system but it was expensive too. People weren't buying it as much as ps3. this time around its vice versa with sony. i mean its more for the consumers. As long as i get great gamers and maximum gaming.
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#19 mosdef_basic
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Define "Win".
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#20 -GhostMLD-
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By winning, I meant. Final, winning. As in Nintendo and Sony dropping out.thrones

oh...thats a tuff one, considering Japan being Nintendo territory and what not........

For SONY - Well I firmly believe that MS will eventually beat out sony in the console department, probaly next generation and Nintendo will dominate the next gen handheld industry, forcing Sony out by say.........2017-18.

For Nintendo - I respect Nintendo, I grew up with them, I cant see them dropping out. At the very least they will monopolize the handheld industry and make their consoles strictly casual.

Therefore with Nintendo and MS forcing Sony out and with Nintendo "dropping" out of the hardcore market and dominating the handheld market, MS will effectively "win" the hardcore console industry.

(You will probably say "intendo dropping out of teh hardcore market doesnt count, I meant all together". Well we both know this is probably the most likely scenerio, MS and Nintendo coexistence with Sony out)

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#21 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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By winning, I meant. Final, winning. As in Nintendo and Sony dropping out.thrones

Well, no. Of course not.

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#22 doobie1975
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As long as i get great games i dont care.

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i could not agree more

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#23 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]No because I'm pretty sure they would monopolize the industry. 0rin



nah. Microsoft, if they were to somehow be able to monopolize the console industry, they would just destroy the console industry, and make everyone buy windows Vista, by having the games come out exclusively for Vista... probably.

But as far as just "winning the war", It woudln't really matter. For instance, look at Sony. They dominated (sales wise) the past few gens. Did that mean they all of a sudden ... monopolized the other consoles? No. "Winning" is just a theoretical term. But as such, it IS possible to "win", via sales, and overall enjoyment.

I really think Sony will "win" this one, due to the long-term thinking of them when they made the PS3. in 4-5 years when they come out with the PS4, the PS3 will still be supported for another few years. The 360 just has too many hardware issues and not enough future-proofing (no HD media disk format, no 1080p native support). But It is definitely a solid console, and I think if MS pulls their heads out for the 720, they could actually give Sony and Nintendo a run for their money.

I just can't believe people are STILL saying 360 can't put out a native 1080p signal.

People are so misinformed...

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#24 waynehead895
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Love Xbox and the 360. But don't care if they win or not really.
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#25 snorlaxlove007
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360 for me means microsoft with me till i die. if you can't beat em join em
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#26 mingo123
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no, because challenege = better games

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#27 ikwal
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NO!! Microsoft is such a bad company. I did like Nintendo before they went casual, Sony is ok but I would really like it if Apple joined the war and won it.
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#28 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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I want ME to win. I'm a gamer and I want all the console to stop pushing their own agendas (ie. online, BR, "family") and just provide games of all shapes, sizes, genres, etc. I shouldn't have to buy 3 consoles to get a well rounded gaming experience.
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#29 snorlaxlove007
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They got me starin' at the world through my rearview
Go on baby scream to God, he can't hear you
I can feel your heart beatin' fast cause it's time to die
We gettin' high, watchin' time fly - Tupac Shakur

mingo123

I heard a rumour I died, murdered in cold blood dramatized
Pictures of me in my final stage you know Mama cried
But that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted
Like I no longer existed, mysteriously missin
Although I'm worldwide, baby I ain't hard to find

Same reference here fits xbox. Sony thought they did what they did back then but its just getting hot.

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#30 mingo123
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]

They got me starin' at the world through my rearview
Go on baby scream to God, he can't hear you
I can feel your heart beatin' fast cause it's time to die
We gettin' high, watchin' time fly - Tupac Shakur

snorlaxlove007

I heard a rumour I died, murdered in cold blood dramatized
Pictures of me in my final stage you know Mama cried
But that was fiction, some coward got the story twisted
Like I no longer existed, mysteriously missin
Although I'm worldwide, baby I ain't hard to find

Same reference here fits xbox. Sony thought they did what they did back then but its just getting hot.

he could be talking about 1994 shooting :D

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#31 ParadiddleFill
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NO!! Microsoft is such a bad company. I did like Nintendo before they went casual, Sony is ok but I would really like it if Apple joined the war and won it.ikwal

oh my god please no, i couldent imagine a console that was touchscreen and came out with new skus every month

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#32 KungfuKitten
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Hmmm i can't think of any reason to want M$ of any company in the world win the console/pc/gaming/whatever wars. Is that good enough?
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#33 snorlaxlove007
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i want them to be in the lead but not win. Its between S and M. Tupac for life also. Back to the topic. Game rules so does microsoft.

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#34 the1stfandb
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I don't think M$ wants that "win"
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#35 omgimba
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There will be no final winner...

Simple as that..

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#36 shoeman12
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no, i want nintendo to win. that way, next gen consoles are more than just graphics upgrades.
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#37 The_Game21x
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Why not? No worse than letting Sony or Nintendo win the way I see it.

What would happen if MS won this generation? They'd do exactly what Sony and Nintendo have always done after their respective victories. Create a new console and start all over again.

I still don't see the logic behind saying MS will "monopolize" the industry, forcing people to pay more for games and crappy hardware. Did Sony or Nintendo ever do this? No. So why is it that all of a sudden, MS is so much more evil? Simply put, unless MS actually drove Sony and Nintendo out of the console business (and assuming NO ONE takes their places), we'll see none of this monopolization people are so eager to scream out whenever confronted with the subject.

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#38 DJCUEBALL
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Nope. In a sense they've already taken over everything! The only thing they need to do now is buy out Adobe (to add imaging suite to their product line) and come up with a handheld.
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#39 Riverwolf007
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What place the consoles finish up in is not important to me, what is important is what games I get to play. What I can say about this is I can't imagine how lame this gen would have been without MS.
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#40 akif22
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no, i don't want them to win .. especially if it meant nintendo dropping out!

but they have done quite a bit for gaming .. allowed me to play games like halo, gears and bioshock that may have been PC exclusive otherwise

they did mess up RARE though

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#41 krunkfu2
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EDIT: By winning, I meant. Final, winning. As in Nintendo and Sony dropping out.

thrones

you better get goin' man.

microsoft has unlimited amounts of cash

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#42 The_Game21x
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no, i don't want them to win .. especially if it meant nintendo dropping out!

but they have done quite a bit for gaming .. allowed me to play games like halo, gears and bioshock that may have been PC exclusive otherwise

they did mess up RARE though

akif22

No they did not mess up Rare.

Rare is not the same company as it was in the Nintendo 64 generation. Many of its members, including its founders have left the company to pursue other ventures, such as starting Free Radical. It is not Microsoft's fault any of that happened.

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#43 clone01
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i don't care who wins, as long as no console pulls a dreamcast this gen.
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#44 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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no i dont want any one to win so they will carry on making games

i got a 360 and ps3 if they stop making games for the ps3 i would get angry

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I'd hate anyone to win the console wars outright, each brring somethingunique to the table, alot of it may not be right for me but if it expands gaming that is goof for all of us.

Why it would be bad for me if ____ won:

Microsoft: Of all the consoles MS has produced the type of games I'm interested in. I grew up playing PC, almost every console game I played after the age of 15 left me disappointed, shallow and weak was my general impression. So when the xbox came along and gave me titles that I could play on a console that I enjoyed on the PC but was accessible to other people and meant we could easily have 4, 8 or 12 of us duelling it out on Halo, playing Tiger Woods, fighting with lightsabers in KOTOR or trawling through the swamps of Morrowind my attitudes towards consoles changed somewhat. This generation that hasn't changed. I love my 360 in UNISON with PC, but if I had to choose between them the PC would win without question. However, if MS was to win the war, what to stop them producing another shoddy (or god forbid worse) piece of hardware than the 360? Would they allow independent companies to thrive or would we see more conditions and restrictions put on them like those for XBLA? Thanks MS for the xbox and 360 but no thanks for domination.

EDIT I forgot to mention Live which has let me sty in contact with friends and family from Ireland & UK when i moved to the US

2. Nintendo: The gateway company into gaming. Yea yea I know "hardcore" or whatever you want to call yourselves gamers play the Wii too, but the fact is that Nintendo has opened gaming to generations that would never have touched a PC, 360 or PS3. The Wii-mote is crazy fun and the detractors can bleat all they want Wii-sports rocks. However, the wii is the nightmare future of gaming for me. A leap sideways in technology its games hark back to the consoles games I dispised so much, often shallow and brief, sure they are fun for some multiplayer action with friends but not what I want to wile away a few hours by myself playing. A Nintendo victory might help push some devs back to the PC but otherwise god no.

3 Sony: Almost as bad as the Wii for me personally. People find it hard to believe but almost none of the games on the PS2 interested me. I enjoyed FIFA and the odd game of Madden, but games like MGS or JRPG's left me cold. Platformers? Dear god the 80's say hello. The PS3 has come on leaps and bounds in terms of its power, but its games, and especially its exclusives hold little interest for me. I need mature WRPG's, great shooters, something above and beyond the usual dross and Sony honestly hasn't done anything on its consoles in the past to make me want one. Sure if Sony won I'd still buy one, I'd want to play games like Madden, Fifa, GTA, etc, but you can guarantee I wouldn't use it very often.

All out victory for any one=lack of competition, overpriced underpowered consoles and stagnation for the industry.

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#46 NinjaMunkey01
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NO.

Not being nasty but what have they dont for gaming? the console is good I like mine but they are still the noobs to the industry.

Sony was there since the ps1 and has helped to push games forward on consoles by building uo a variety of exclusives, and pushing graphics forwards.

nintendo has always stayed true to their roots as gameplay is best. I really liked the N64 which had the great trigger buttons which are mow a standard in controllers. the wii is innotive and fun to use and has made the audience for gaming WAY bigger and has helped to make gaming be seen as an entertainment form. yes it has brought about casual gamers, I play shooters a lot and like playing online but I amd most of you are part casual, hardcore gamers play for 8 hours a day and play for cash.

MS has not brung anything new, but has ulked the consumer. as soon as the 360 was released the xbox was dumped as trash, XBL is another way of getting all the money they can out of us, and we have had t pay for every extra that for many is needed. Yes they have brought good games, but they would have released on other consoles anyway. Plus RROD is annoying consumers everywhere. plus now they slag off sony saying they rip off the consumer!!!!

At the moment MS just does not deserve it. At least sony tried to make a console to last which looked nice, was packed with features and was powerful, and nintendo made something new. MS just stayed in safe territory and has not advanced gaming at all.

Nintendo deservis to win this gen, they have been around the longest and it shows, they know what we want, and the sales show it.

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#47 crunchUK
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oh god how can you be that stupid? genereally, the more "War" there is in gaming the better. for us, mind you not the companies.
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#48 WilliamRLBaker
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No, companies like Microsoft are bad for the industry in my opinion. Using whatever tactics needed to get a victory no matter how small, useless excessive milking and the potential to monopolize the industry so you'd be force to pay whatever they ask regardless of quality no thank you.Flamestos

that oddly sounds like the Ps2 last generation ~_*

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#49 carljohnson3456
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MS has stated that they will own console gaming in a 3 generation cycle. One way or another, they will dominate and buy out whatever they need to win.

But you right, we will all be out of gaming by then, itll be our younger generations that will play their games.

-GhostMLD-

MS cant own console gaming in a 3 generation cycle, sorry to burst your bubble Ghost, lol.

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#50 karram
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Yes.