Does anyone eles think that Final Fnatasy VIII is the greatest jrpg?

• Legend of the Dragon Sword - hate the new name

-RPGamer-

That isn't it's new name. Why do people keep saying this? It was never confirmed or even linked. Someone just started a topic and claimed that that was the name when it isn't.

I mean hell it isn't even confirmed to be released outside of Japan yet.

[QUOTE="rickjamesxx"] star ocean 4 platform hasnt been annouced yet
-RPGamer-

It's a relatively safe assumption. Factor in all the pre-SO4 hype work being done on the PSP with the remakes and you come up with my assumption.

I think I remember reading about that on rpgfan.com, and it did sound interesting.

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

• Legend of the Dragon Sword - hate the new name

Gunraidan

That isn't it's new name. Why do people keep saying this? It was never confirmed or even linked. Someone just started a topic and claimed that that was the name when it isn't.

I mean hell it isn't even confirmed to be released outside of Japan yet.

That's fine, I don't recall seeing it in a topic here, I just don't remember the site I saw it on. I don't really care to be honest it's just a name.

That's fine, I don't recall seeing it in a topic here, I just don't remember the site I saw it on. I don't really care to be honest it's just a name.

-RPGamer-

I can't find it anywhere though. I mean I googled "Legend of the Dragon Sword", "Legend of the Dragon Sword Wii", "Oboro Muramasa Youtoden name change", etc. Nothing pop's up.

Though I would be interested in what name they come up with though to represent the Japanese themes. It's pretty much guaranteed to come to North America though due to how well Odin Sphere sold.

I started playing FF almost the day it came out on the NES in the states. I've played every one. And FF8 is by a wide and far margin my least favorite FF game. Id go as far to say its my least favorite Square game, RPG, and game in general.

Everything about that game was a complete ant total disaster. Squaresoft should be ashamed of themselves for releasing such a poor game after doing so well with 6 and 7.

False.

This is the greatest JRPG:

(IMO at least)

Gunraidan

I'm only fifty-five hours into the game...but I would have to disagree. Nocturne has excellent gameplay. And I absolutely love the art s t y l e. But it is utterly weak in its execution of its story. The characterization, character interaction, and character development is weak weak weak from what I've played so far.

I'm only fifty-five hours into the game...but I would have to disagree. Nocturne has excellent gameplay. And I absolutely love the art s t y l e. But it is utterly weak in its execution of its story. The characterization, character interaction, and character development is weak weak weak from what I've played so far.

redCloudJ7

Umm yeah Atlus's games are about gameplay and not story.

still the best ive ever played and the card sub game remains the best ive played toovilla4europe

i agree wit the card subgame...it was the best card game out of ne FF game...i loved it..got every card..haha...but as for it bein the best..no...i think 7 and 10 were better...but i also think that 8 had the best summons..or guardian forces as they called it

[QUOTE="redCloudJ7"]

I'm only fifty-five hours into the game...but I would have to disagree. Nocturne has excellent gameplay. And I absolutely love the art s t y l e. But it is utterly weak in its execution of its story. The characterization, character interaction, and character development is weak weak weak from what I've played so far.

Gunraidan

Umm yeah Atlus's games are about gameplay and not story.

The three most important points of a Jrpg (In my opinion of course) is gameplay, story, and characters. It needs all three to be considered top tier. Perhaps my standards are ridiculously high though.

Maybe one of the best RPG's "for its time" but not "best ever". And its probably the most popular FF game ever. Thats why they keep making all these FFVII spin-offs. I wish they'd just make a real FFVII remake for PS3 and then be done with it already. I actually like FFVI more than FFVII though.EnergyAbsorber

He said VIII, not VII.

The three most important points of a Jrpg (In my opinion of course) is gameplay, story, and characters. It needs all three to be considered top tier. Perhaps my standards are ridiculously high though.

redCloudJ7

Seems that you've gone in for a different type of game. The Megaten series are JRPG/Dungeon crawlers or what I like to call progressive dungeon crawlers then fully traditional JRPG's. Different kind of games call for different needs and for a game like Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne cinematic like story isn't one of them.

Maybe one of the best RPG's "for its time" but not "best ever". And its probably the most popular FF game ever. Thats why they keep making all these FFVII spin-offs. I wish they'd just make a real FFVII remake for PS3 and then be done with it already. I actually like FFVI more than FFVII though.EnergyAbsorber

I agree with you on FFVI (probably my choice for best RPG of all time), but I also think FFVII is fantastic. FFVIII was extremely good too, but it was probably the first Final Fantasy that really ushered us into what the FFs are now; up until VIII (and to a lesser degree, VII), all the FFs were fairly similar in gameplay and even not too different in setting. FFVI was, in my opinion, the apex of the traditional JRPG, as it did an excellent job with random battles, and the setting was still close to the "medieval" setting that the JRPGs of the time, but with a twist. Not that this is a knock against the current FFs, but they're much glossier and more futuristic than they used to be, which is why I consider them to be from a different era (not to mention the fact that Uematsu and Sakaguchi no longer work on them).

Anyway, I digress. There are plenty of awesome JRPGs out there, and FFVIII is definitely one of them, but there's at least 3 RPGs I can think of on the SNES alone that eclipse it, in my opinion.

[QUOTE="EnergyAbsorber"]Maybe one of the best RPG's "for its time" but not "best ever". And its probably the most popular FF game ever. Thats why they keep making all these FFVII spin-offs. I wish they'd just make a real FFVII remake for PS3 and then be done with it already. I actually like FFVI more than FFVII though.SeanBond

I agree with you on FFVI (probably my choice for best RPG of all time), but I also think FFVII is fantastic. FFVIII was extremely good too, but it was probably the first Final Fantasy that really ushered us into what the FFs are now; up until VIII (and to a lesser degree, VII), all the FFs were fairly similar in gameplay and even not too different in setting. FFVI was, in my opinion, the apex of the traditional JRPG, as it did an excellent job with random battles, and the setting was still close to the "medieval" setting that the JRPGs of the time, but with a twist. Not that this is a knock against the current FFs, but they're much glossier and more futuristic than they used to be, which is why I consider them to be from a different era (not to mention the fact that Uematsu and Sakaguchi no longer work on them).

Anyway, I digress. There are plenty of awesome JRPGs out there, and FFVIII is definitely one of them, but there's at least 3 RPGs I can think of on the SNES alone that eclipse it, in my opinion.

yes AFTER FFVII

[QUOTE="SeanBond"]

[QUOTE="EnergyAbsorber"]Maybe one of the best RPG's "for its time" but not "best ever". And its probably the most popular FF game ever. Thats why they keep making all these FFVII spin-offs. I wish they'd just make a real FFVII remake for PS3 and then be done with it already. I actually like FFVI more than FFVII though.Couth_

I agree with you on FFVI (probably my choice for best RPG of all time), but I also think FFVII is fantastic. FFVIII was extremely good too, but it was probably the first Final Fantasy that really ushered us into what the FFs are now; up until VIII (and to a lesser degree, VII), all the FFs were fairly similar in gameplay and even not too different in setting. FFVI was, in my opinion, the apex of the traditional JRPG, as it did an excellent job with random battles, and the setting was still close to the "medieval" setting that the JRPGs of the time, but with a twist. Not that this is a knock against the current FFs, but they're much glossier and more futuristic than they used to be, which is why I consider them to be from a different era (not to mention the fact that Uematsu and Sakaguchi no longer work on them).

Anyway, I digress. There are plenty of awesome JRPGs out there, and FFVIII is definitely one of them, but there's at least 3 RPGs I can think of on the SNES alone that eclipse it, in my opinion.

Well, he executive produced music for SSBB on the Wii, as well, but the big difference is that he's not composing all the music for the FF games anymore; his soundtrack for FFVI is incredible, and his contribution to Final Fantasy is missed.

[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="SeanBond"]

[QUOTE="EnergyAbsorber"]Maybe one of the best RPG's "for its time" but not "best ever". And its probably the most popular FF game ever. Thats why they keep making all these FFVII spin-offs. I wish they'd just make a real FFVII remake for PS3 and then be done with it already. I actually like FFVI more than FFVII though.SeanBond

I agree with you on FFVI (probably my choice for best RPG of all time), but I also think FFVII is fantastic. FFVIII was extremely good too, but it was probably the first Final Fantasy that really ushered us into what the FFs are now; up until VIII (and to a lesser degree, VII), all the FFs were fairly similar in gameplay and even not too different in setting. FFVI was, in my opinion, the apex of the traditional JRPG, as it did an excellent job with random battles, and the setting was still close to the "medieval" setting that the JRPGs of the time, but with a twist. Not that this is a knock against the current FFs, but they're much glossier and more futuristic than they used to be, which is why I consider them to be from a different era (not to mention the fact that Uematsu and Sakaguchi no longer work on them).

Anyway, I digress. There are plenty of awesome JRPGs out there, and FFVIII is definitely one of them, but there's at least 3 RPGs I can think of on the SNES alone that eclipse it, in my opinion.

Well, he executive produced music for SSBB on the Wii, as well, but the big difference is that he's not composing all the music for the FF games anymore; his soundtrack for FFVI is incredible, and his contribution to Final Fantasy is missed.

[QUOTE="redCloudJ7"]

I'm only fifty-five hours into the game...but I would have to disagree. Nocturne has excellent gameplay. And I absolutely love the art s t y l e. But it is utterly weak in its execution of its story. The characterization, character interaction, and character development is weak weak weak from what I've played so far.

Gunraidan

Umm yeah Atlus's games are about gameplay and not story.

I started playing FF almost the day it came out on the NES in the states. I've played every one. And FF8 is by a wide and far margin my least favorite FF game. Id go as far to say its my least favorite Square game, RPG, and game in general.

Everything about that game was a complete ant total disaster. Squaresoft should be ashamed of themselves for releasing such a poor game after doing so well with 6 and 7.

goblaa

Just finished the game again and Im just astounded by how great the game really is. Even on my 56" Samsung dlp it looks amazing. Anyone eles agree?dabigsiebowski

Final fantasy 6, 7 and tactics are the 3 best final fantasy games. Every other final fantasy is garbage.