Does anyone else believe crysis 2 on consoles will look better then KZ3?

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#51 tonitorsi
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This is the way i see it:

Uncharted 3 = Gears of War 3 = Crysis 2 > Rage > Killzone 3 >>>> most console games

PAL360

Bombastic list.

Though, lets count UC3 and Gears 3 out since Crysis 2, Rage and KZ3 releases on the firs quarters of 2011 unlike UC3 & GeoW3 that come out at the end of the year having the advantage of more dev/polish time.

But I expect...on consoles...Gears 3 and UC3 to look better. Maybe even much better.

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

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With users like you and Bus running around this place nobody is safe.

I'm constantly paranoid that somebody is gonna hit me upside the head with a pic of a cave wall. "Look at those crags! Most realistic crags evar!1!":lol:8)

But it is a very nice cave wall. :3

Or how about I hit you with some foliage? don't make me bring out fable 2.

seriously though, I lol'd. :P

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#53 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

This is the way i see it:

Uncharted 3 = Gears of War 3 = Crysis 2 > Rage > Killzone 3 >>>> most console games

tonitorsi

Bombastic list.

Though, lets count UC3 and Gears 3 out since Crysis 2, Rage and KZ3 releases on the firs quarters of 2011 unlike UC3 & GeoW3 that come out at the end of the year having the advantage of more dev/polish time.

But I expect...on consoles...Gears 3 and UC3 to look better. Maybe even much better.

Rage is set for Q4
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#54 dkdk999
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Both games will probably look very very good. Who cares really ?

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#55 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Both games will probably look very very good. Who cares really ?

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#57 goodtobeback
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=galgKO4tCog

watch that crysis 2 gameplay owns kz3's lol u can slide and jump/grab onto ledges check it out.

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#58 Dead-Memories
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to answer your question quite simply, no.

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#59 fireballonfire
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Pure technically Crysis 2 will be a much more advanced game than KZ3. The CE3 engine will make it possible to implement all the latest features.

For starters some of you mentioned physics. KZ3 is all about scripted / pre-animated physics nothing but the very simple physics is calculated real time.

As for C2, not even the first Crysis has procedural destruction which is something I look forward to experiment with.

What sonys first party developers are good at and what they might succeed in doing better than Crytek is to cover up the technical shortcomings of their engine with excellent camera work, stage design and an immersive atmosphere with a lot going on to keep you busy.

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#60 gpuking
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Pure technically Crysis 2 will be a much more advanced game than KZ3. The CE3 engine will make it possible to implement all the latest features.

For starters some of you mentioned physics. KZ3 is all about scripted / pre-animated physics nothing but the very simple physics is calculated real time.

As for C2, not even the first Crysis has procedural destruction which is something I look forward to experiment with.

What sonys first party developers are good at and what they might succeed in doing better than Crytek is to cover up the technical shortcomings of their engine with excellent camera work, stage design and an immersive atmosphere with a lot going on to keep you busy.

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There's a major difference in creating the toolset and licensing the engine for third parties to simply max out what a single console can do. The former will try to utilize as much techs in the book as possible so that developers can have more choices for different games, while the latter would concentrate on an already established franchise so that all their effects would benefit that franchise the most. Cryengine 3 is a checklist of effects but lacks a strong prominent area, kz3 engine may not be as complete feature wise but it's more focused and more comprehensive in certain features. Let's say Crysis 2 is a good all rounder in graphics but kz3 beats it in particle, more dynamic lights, scale and more shadow casting lights. But in the end it's all about what's on the screen and clearly at this stage kz3 looks more impressive. I will do a comparison soon with the Be the Weapon trailer.
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[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

Pure technically Crysis 2 will be a much more advanced game than KZ3. The CE3 engine will make it possible to implement all the latest features.

For starters some of you mentioned physics. KZ3 is all about scripted / pre-animated physics nothing but the very simple physics is calculated real time.

As for C2, not even the first Crysis has procedural destruction which is something I look forward to experiment with.

What sonys first party developers are good at and what they might succeed in doing better than Crytek is to cover up the technical shortcomings of their engine with excellent camera work, stage design and an immersive atmosphere with a lot going on to keep you busy.

gpuking

There's a major difference in creating the toolset and licensing the engine for third parties to simply max out what a single console can do. The former will try to utilize as much techs in the book as possible so that developers can have more choices for different games, while the latter would concentrate on an already established franchise so that all their effects would benefit that franchise the most. Cryengine 3 is a checklist of effects but lacks a strong prominent area, kz3 engine may not be as complete feature wise but it's more focused and more comprehensive in certain features. Let's say Crysis 2 is a good all rounder in graphics but kz3 beats it in particle, more dynamic lights, scale and more shadow casting lights. But in the end it's all about what's on the screen and clearly at this stage kz3 looks more impressive. I will do a comparison soon with the Be the Weapon trailer.

So Crysis 2 is only a "good all rounder"? As in everything being mediocre?

When C2 finally gets released and the true potential of the CE3 is on display, I'll bet you gonna regret saying that.

My bet is that the CE3 engine is the most advanced engine ever, not mediocre. You want unmatched particles, dynamic lights and shadows it'll come to you in a few months time, be patient.

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#62 FIipMode
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Of course it can, but you never know, I'm not saying jack until the games actually come out.
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#63 Filthybastrd
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Yes it will. I'm guessing it will be similar to the Metro VS Crysis debate where one game relies a lot more on confined not to mention static (read: You can't really break anything) enviroments.

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#64 nutcrackr
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Not really convinced so far, but this is based on KZ3 beta and Crysis 2 screenshots from consoles. Textures seem blurry in Crysis 2 on consoles. But these were early shots so things might have changed.
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#65 Filthybastrd
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Not really convinced so far, but this is based on KZ3 beta and Crysis 2 screenshots from consoles. Textures seem blurry in Crysis 2 on consoles. But these were early shots so things might have changed.nutcrackr

That's just Crysis fighting it's new home ;) Noone wants to live in such tiny RAM.

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#66 rangegear
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Thats a tough one. Crysis looked so great on PC but Idk about the console version on 2.

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[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

Pure technically Crysis 2 will be a much more advanced game than KZ3. The CE3 engine will make it possible to implement all the latest features.

For starters some of you mentioned physics. KZ3 is all about scripted / pre-animated physics nothing but the very simple physics is calculated real time.

As for C2, not even the first Crysis has procedural destruction which is something I look forward to experiment with.

What sonys first party developers are good at and what they might succeed in doing better than Crytek is to cover up the technical shortcomings of their engine with excellent camera work, stage design and an immersive atmosphere with a lot going on to keep you busy.

gpuking

There's a major difference in creating the toolset and licensing the engine for third parties to simply max out what a single console can do. The former will try to utilize as much techs in the book as possible so that developers can have more choices for different games, while the latter would concentrate on an already established franchise so that all their effects would benefit that franchise the most. Cryengine 3 is a checklist of effects but lacks a strong prominent area, kz3 engine may not be as complete feature wise but it's more focused and more comprehensive in certain features. Let's say Crysis 2 is a good all rounder in graphics but kz3 beats it in particle, more dynamic lights, scale and more shadow casting lights. But in the end it's all about what's on the screen and clearly at this stage kz3 looks more impressive. I will do a comparison soon with the Be the Weapon trailer.

To be fair you dont know how much light sources there are in Crysis 2 per scene.I mean...In that night level i bet there was more than two hunderd of them.Anyway,there are lots of things Crysis 2 excels at as having HDR,real time GI,better lighting,and better motion blur.Plus it does it ALL with having DYNAMIC TIME OF DAY,meaning nothing can be pre baked.Same can't be said for KZ3...

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#68 djsifer01
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Not a chance. No 3rd party derv is going to have a multipat game that looks better than a Sony FP derv with a infinite budget.
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#69 beganoo
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On PC Crysis will look better. On consoles KZ3 imo. Why ? Because KZ3 will be much better optimized for consoles. Crysis 2 on consoles won't come even close to its PC version.

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#70 Lonelynight
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Don't know, since the developers for Killzone 3 probably has better experience with the platform.
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#71 chrislol101
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Killzown 3 will look teh bestest
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#72 campzor
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a multiplat game looking better then the best of a first party studios? dont make me laugh.

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[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

Pure technically Crysis 2 will be a much more advanced game than KZ3. The CE3 engine will make it possible to implement all the latest features.

For starters some of you mentioned physics. KZ3 is all about scripted / pre-animated physics nothing but the very simple physics is calculated real time.

As for C2, not even the first Crysis has procedural destruction which is something I look forward to experiment with.

What sonys first party developers are good at and what they might succeed in doing better than Crytek is to cover up the technical shortcomings of their engine with excellent camera work, stage design and an immersive atmosphere with a lot going on to keep you busy.

gpuking
There's a major difference in creating the toolset and licensing the engine for third parties to simply max out what a single console can do. The former will try to utilize as much techs in the book as possible so that developers can have more choices for different games, while the latter would concentrate on an already established franchise so that all their effects would benefit that franchise the most. Cryengine 3 is a checklist of effects but lacks a strong prominent area, kz3 engine may not be as complete feature wise but it's more focused and more comprehensive in certain features. Let's say Crysis 2 is a good all rounder in graphics but kz3 beats it in particle, more dynamic lights, scale and more shadow casting lights. But in the end it's all about what's on the screen and clearly at this stage kz3 looks more impressive. I will do a comparison soon with the Be the Weapon trailer.

Not to burst your bubble but CE2 let alone CE3 could do everything KZ3 can plus much, much more and at a much higher quality. Sorry your argument is invalid.
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Killzown 3 will look teh bestestchrislol101
a multiplat gaming looking better then the best of a first party studios? dont make me laugh.campzor
This isn't any 3rd Party developed multiplat game. It's made by the people who can actually write on their game covers, best graphics in a game 3 years in a row.
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#75 Vari3ty
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i think crysis 2 will look vastly inferior to killzone 3 on consoles

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Agree. Killzone 3 = exclusive PS3 game developed by team with experience on consoles, just look at how good Killzone 2 was graphically. Crysis 2 = developed by mainly PC developers, PS3 version will probably be poorly ported over from the 360, 360 Crysis 2 will be inferior to PC version and Killzone 3.

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[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

Pure technically Crysis 2 will be a much more advanced game than KZ3. The CE3 engine will make it possible to implement all the latest features.

For starters some of you mentioned physics. KZ3 is all about scripted / pre-animated physics nothing but the very simple physics is calculated real time.

As for C2, not even the first Crysis has procedural destruction which is something I look forward to experiment with.

What sonys first party developers are good at and what they might succeed in doing better than Crytek is to cover up the technical shortcomings of their engine with excellent camera work, stage design and an immersive atmosphere with a lot going on to keep you busy.

ocstew
There's a major difference in creating the toolset and licensing the engine for third parties to simply max out what a single console can do. The former will try to utilize as much techs in the book as possible so that developers can have more choices for different games, while the latter would concentrate on an already established franchise so that all their effects would benefit that franchise the most. Cryengine 3 is a checklist of effects but lacks a strong prominent area, kz3 engine may not be as complete feature wise but it's more focused and more comprehensive in certain features. Let's say Crysis 2 is a good all rounder in graphics but kz3 beats it in particle, more dynamic lights, scale and more shadow casting lights. But in the end it's all about what's on the screen and clearly at this stage kz3 looks more impressive. I will do a comparison soon with the Be the Weapon trailer.

Not to burst your bubble but CE2 let alone CE3 could do everything KZ3 can plus much, much more and at a much higher quality. Sorry your argument is invalid.

On consoles no it doesn't, sorry.
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[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

i think crysis 2 will look vastly inferior to killzone 3 on consoles

Vari3ty

Agree. Killzone 3 = exclusive PS3 game developed by team with experience on consoles, just look at how good Killzone 2 was graphically. Crysis 2 = developed by mainly PC developers, PS3 version will probably be poorly ported over from the 360, 360 Crysis 2 will be inferior to PC version and Killzone 3.

Disagree. Resistance 2 = exclusive PS3 game developed by team with experience on consoles, therefore Resistance 2 looks better than Crysis 2? Crytek are masters of tech, every game they've made has been a graphics king. they're not the average multiplat dev and they have a huge team of over 600 people. I'm pretty sure they can make it happen.
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[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="Harisemo"]

i think crysis 2 will look vastly inferior to killzone 3 on consoles

Silenthps

Agree. Killzone 3 = exclusive PS3 game developed by team with experience on consoles, just look at how good Killzone 2 was graphically. Crysis 2 = developed by mainly PC developers, PS3 version will probably be poorly ported over from the 360, 360 Crysis 2 will be inferior to PC version and Killzone 3.

Disagree. Resistance 2 = exclusive PS3 game developed by team with experience on consoles, therefore Resistance 2 looks better than Crysis 2? Crytek are masters of tech, every game they've made has been a graphics king. they're not the average multiplat dev and they have a huge team of over 600 people. I'm pretty sure they can make it happen.

Resistance games are third-party. Everyone seem to forget that. On the topic, I've yet to see anything from Crysis 2 that impresses me.
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#79 Malta_1980
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i dont think that Crysis2 (console version) will look better than KZ3... but its better we wait till both games get released first, then we can truly compare..

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#80 NWA90s
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yeah rico is MUCH better too, he can even revive you in killzone 3 according to gamespot at least