Does anyone really think remaking FFVII would be a good idea?

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#1 PS2_ROCKS
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So I just finished FFVII for the first time and I understand why the game was so highly regarded in it's time. But now, in today's context, it's a huge mess. The mini-games, character models, story, side quests, pacing, the materia system...THE LENGTH! It's like the developers were so fascinated by this new-fangled 3D/CD-ROM technology that they needed to fit in every possible idea they thought of, no matter how much it didn't fit into the overall scheme of things. Snowboarding anyone?

But really, let's all just sit here and think about how much work it would take to turn that convoluted pile of 90s Square JRPG into something respectable by today's standards. It would be enormous! Or instead they could just give it a graphical update, maybe throw in some voice actors and watch it get at best a 5/10.

What does thou think?

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#2 ABCarmine
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It would make a lot of money but i wouldn't buy it.

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#3 RyanShazam
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I would play it

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#4 magiciandude
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Yes, it's aging rather badly in my opinion.

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#5 Timstuff
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Square is too disorganized to do it correctly right now. And they'd probably have to put all of their other games on hold just to work on it.
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#6 WilliamRLBaker
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Bad idea for me it will plot hole fill already the ruined original plot hole filled storyline...and they'll take 8 years making it.

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I'm not sure what you're getting at. What was so convoluted about FF7? If FF7 is a convoluted then that makes Oblivion ridiculously convoluted and that game is considered a casual WRPG to some. The only thing that is truly aged poorly are the graphics. The game itself is still one of the best JRPGs.

FFIV has been remade multiple times now and is still considered a great game, I don't see why it would be any different for FF7. I don't believe all this nonsense about FF7 taking way too long to make. I think SE are overly exaggerating there and are clearly being lazy.

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#8 juno84
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I see nothing wrong with it. The other portable remakes have gone well. Some Crisis Core level graphics, better translation and some maybe some gameplay tweaks and it'd be fine.

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#9 SteamedBennet
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It's really not necessary. Square's resources would be best used to make new games. (although a hd update of final fantasy 10 + 12, in the same way as the GOW collection would be nice :))
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#10 Badosh
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Naw, but they should remake 9. >.>
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#11 Phoenix534
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It's a terrible idea. Fans have such high expectations for a remake that making one that would'nt piss off the fanbase would be entirely unprofitable.

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#12 -The-G-Man-
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i think many, many, MANY people would have rather played a remake of FF7 than whatever the hell FF14 was supposed to be.

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I'm not sure what you're getting at. What was so convoluted about FF7? If FF7 is a convoluted then that makes Oblivion ridiculously convoluted and that game is considered a casual WRPG to some. The only thing that is truly aged poorly are the graphics. The game itself is still one of the best JRPGs.

FFIV has been remade multiple times now and is still considered a great game, I don't see why it would be any different for FF7. I don't believe all this nonsense about FF7 taking way too long to make. I think SE are overly exaggerating there and are clearly being lazy.

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I think it would take a long time to remake. You spend like the first 6 hours of the game in Midgar, then finally move on to the over world. There are entire towns that are side quests. Square would have to remodel all these environments, remake the CG cut scenes, consider the possibility of voice acting...In this age of video games, the development costs would be huge and the wait would be long.
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#14 skilfulgary
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yes,i think a remake is a very good idea,especially if they do VIII to accompany it,this would just about be the best idea for a remake this gen imo.

tbh i don't know why anyone would think it would be a bad idea.btw is this a actuall,bone fide possibility?

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Usually I would say no.. But in this case, it seems a new Final Fantasy would be much less exhilarating than even a remake, so I would not mind.
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[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

I'm not sure what you're getting at. What was so convoluted about FF7? If FF7 is a convoluted then that makes Oblivion ridiculously convoluted and that game is considered a casual WRPG to some. The only thing that is truly aged poorly are the graphics. The game itself is still one of the best JRPGs.

FFIV has been remade multiple times now and is still considered a great game, I don't see why it would be any different for FF7. I don't believe all this nonsense about FF7 taking way too long to make. I think SE are overly exaggerating there and are clearly being lazy.

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I think it would take a long time to remake. You spend like the first 6 hours of the game in Midgar, then finally move on to the over world. There are entire towns that are side quests. Square would have to remodel all these environments, remake the CG cut scenes, consider the possibility of voice acting...In this age of video games, the development costs would be huge and the wait would be long.

Well tbh, I don't really consider FF7 to be that big of an RPG scope wise anyway. It's kind of hard to believe when games like Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon and Tales of Vesperia exist that they can't come up with a remake in a decent ammount of time it took to make those games which all have expansive areas, voice acting, CG cutcsenes, world maps, variety of enviroments. They don't really have give every NPC voice acting. They're making it out that it would take 10+ years to make, I call BS. Maybe I'm wrong.
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#18 dr_jashugan
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I'll even buy a new console if I have to, just to play the remake of this game.

Imagine this game with FF7 Advent Children graphic quality. Awesome! 8)

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#19 Rage010101
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if done right very much YES! so one of the rpgs regarded as one of the best of all time, arguably the best in the ff series, and you think it would only manage to get a 5/10 AT BEST? wow...just wow

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It's a terrible idea. Fans have such high expectations for a remake that making one that would'nt piss off the fanbase would be entirely unprofitable.

Phoenix534

Even if they do spend that degree on the project, it will likely still garner an angry fan reaction.

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#21 Rage010101
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Bad idea for me it will plot hole fill already the ruined original plot hole filled storyline...and they'll take 8 years making it.

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huh? which plot holes are you talking about? this only shows you just didnt understand what was going on in the game story wise! everything was explained pretty much

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#22 LovePotionNo9
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I'd like a colorful, HD 2D sprite remake with upbeat, adrenaline-pumping, happy-go-lucky arrangements of the original tunes, lots of animation going on screen in towns and world map, that really makes the world feel alive (lush green forests and deep blue seas).

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#23 Rage010101
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It's really not necessary. Square's resources would be best used to make new games. (although a hd update of final fantasy 10 + 12, in the same way as the GOW collection would be nice :))SteamedBennet

wow thats just as bad as squarenix's recent game decisions! i havent heard from anyone they would want hd remakes of ff 10-12! 10 was ok, 11 was an mmo, and 12 was just....sooo womenly looking men EVERYWHERE! no just no! what the fans really want is an hd update of ff 6 through 9! also their new games are just horrible. HORRIBLE lately! at this point i dont even want new games from them any more. id rather they just make hd versions of ff 6-9, hd vagrant story, hd front mission 1-3, hd parasite eve 1 and 2, hd xenogears, and then once those are done, i wouldnt mind squarenix disappearing off the face of the gaming industry for good, cuz they put out pure crap lately.

Edit: oh how can i forget some kind of hd/remake of crono trigger and crono cross! then the circle would be complete! maybe even some secret of mana if enough ppl want it to happen. anyway, i dont think anyone can argue with all those great games they could put out in hd or remake compared to the stuff they have been putting out and the remakes they keep remaking over and over and over and overrrrrrrr!

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Uhhh sure I could go for some HD Tifa, Aeris, and Yuffie.:lol:

And maybe some HD Vincent.:oops:

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#25 Silverbond
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It would keep the FVII fanboys quiet for awhile. I think that's a good thing.

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i actually think the whole materia system was pretty well done. plus i still think it would make a TON of money. besides i think this would be the perfect time since everybody is in to the whole hd remasters/remake thing [QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"] [QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]

So I just finished FFVII for the first time and I understand why the game was so highly regarded in it's time. But now, in today's context, it's a huge mess. The mini-games, character models, story, side quests, pacing, the materia system...THE LENGTH! It's like the developers were so fascinated by this new-fangled 3D/CD-ROM technology that they needed to fit in every possible idea they thought of, no matter how much it didn't fit into the overall scheme of things. Snowboarding anyone?

But really, let's all just sit here and think about how much work it would take to turn that convoluted pile of 90s Square JRPG into something respectable by today's standards. It would be enormous! Or instead they could just give it a graphical update, maybe throw in some voice actors and watch it get at best a 5/10.

What does thou think?

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]

So I just finished FFVII for the first time and I understand why the game was so highly regarded in it's time. But now, in today's context, it's a huge mess. The mini-games, character models, story, side quests, pacing, the materia system...THE LENGTH! It's like the developers were so fascinated by this new-fangled 3D/CD-ROM technology that they needed to fit in every possible idea they thought of, no matter how much it didn't fit into the overall scheme of things. Snowboarding anyone?

But really, let's all just sit here and think about how much work it would take to turn that convoluted pile of 90s Square JRPG into something respectable by today's standards. It would be enormous! Or instead they could just give it a graphical update, maybe throw in some voice actors and watch it get at best a 5/10.

What does thou think?

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]

So I just finished FFVII for the first time and I understand why the game was so highly regarded in it's time. But now, in today's context, it's a huge mess. The mini-games, character models, story, side quests, pacing, the materia system...THE LENGTH! It's like the developers were so fascinated by this new-fangled 3D/CD-ROM technology that they needed to fit in every possible idea they thought of, no matter how much it didn't fit into the overall scheme of things. Snowboarding anyone?

But really, let's all just sit here and think about how much work it would take to turn that convoluted pile of 90s Square JRPG into something respectable by today's standards. It would be enormous! Or instead they could just give it a graphical update, maybe throw in some voice actors and watch it get at best a 5/10.

What does thou think?

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#27 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]

Uhhh sure I could go for some HD Tifa, Aeris, and Yuffie.:lol:

And maybe some HD Vincent.:oops:

long as i get my 4X cut materia and cloud, im good to go! oh yeah, and i gotta have my omnislash!
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It's really not necessary. Square's resources would be best used to make new games. (although a hd update of final fantasy 10 + 12, in the same way as the GOW collection would be nice :))SteamedBennet
FFXIII-2 doesn't look that necessary either. An fixing that diabolical broken mess that is FFXIV seems like a wasted effort. It's going to take years to fix because it's broken and flawed from the ground up and by the time they do actually fix it, there will be plenty of better mmorpgs to compete with it. They're best off just killing it and moving onto better things.

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It would keep the FVII fanboys quiet for awhile. I think that's a good thing.

Silverbond

No it wouldn't.

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[QUOTE="SteamedBennet"]It's really not necessary. Square's resources would be best used to make new games. (although a hd update of final fantasy 10 + 12, in the same way as the GOW collection would be nice :))Crossel777
FFXIII-2 doesn't look that necessary either. An fixing that diabolical broken mess that is FFXIV seems like a wasted effort. It's going to take years to fix because it's broken and flawed from the ground up and by the time they do actually fix it, there will be plenty of better mmorpgs to compete with it.

FFXIII-2 probably exists for the sole purpose of giving Square a constant stream of revenue. They're trying to fix their release spacing issue, so they're making an effort to release major games every fall-winter season.

2009: FFXII

2010: 3rd Birthday

2011: FF Type-0 followed by FFXIII-2

2012: Probably Versus

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#31 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

It would keep the FVII fanboys quiet for awhile. I think that's a good thing.

No it wouldn't.

Well, they wouldn't be asking for a remake anymore and that's the only time I ever see them post tbh.
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Uhhh sure I could go for some HD Tifa, Aeris, and Yuffie.:lol:

And maybe some HD Vincent.:oops:

Vyse_Legends

Watching

[spoiler] Aeris get stabbed to death [/spoiler]

in HD should be worth every penny.

Wonder if we would get to see some chunks of heart flying?? :o

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#33 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

It would keep the FVII fanboys quiet for awhile. I think that's a good thing.

Silverbond

No it wouldn't.

Well, they wouldn't be asking for a remake anymore and that's the only time I ever see them post tbh.

"Square-Enix ruined FFVII."

Expect to see forums flooded with the above.

"Remake the remake!"

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[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

It would keep the FVII fanboys quiet for awhile. I think that's a good thing.

No it wouldn't.

Well, they wouldn't be asking for a remake anymore and that's the only time I ever see them post tbh.

I don't see anyone asking for a sequel or a spin off. I know I'd shut up eternally if I got my FF7 remake.
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[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]

Uhhh sure I could go for some HD Tifa, Aeris, and Yuffie.:lol:

And maybe some HD Vincent.:oops:

GreenGoblin2099

Watching

in HD should be worth every penny.

Wonder if we would get to see some chunks of heart flying?? :o

When did Sephiroth have the Bloody Mess perk?:? I thought he only had "Peerless" or something.:P

Besides this being a Square game I don't think it'll even be as graphic as that scene in Indiana Jones.:D

Oh I also remembered I could go for some Cloud when he has to cross-dress to gain access to the Don guys mansion.:oops::lol:

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Bad idea for me it will plot hole fill already the ruined original plot hole filled storyline...and they'll take 8 years making it.

Rage010101

huh? which plot holes are you talking about? this only shows you just didnt understand what was going on in the game story wise! everything was explained pretty much

I was definitely on the FF wiki looking up things like Jenova, Holy and Zack. From the game I basically knew what was going on but I felt I was missing large chunks of information.
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]

Uhhh sure I could go for some HD Tifa, Aeris, and Yuffie.:lol:

And maybe some HD Vincent.:oops:

Vyse_Legends

Watching

in HD should be worth every penny.

Wonder if we would get to see some chunks of heart flying?? :o

When did Sephiroth have the Bloody Mess perk?:? I thought he only had "Peerless" or something.:P

Besides this being a Square game I don't think it'll even be as graphic as that scene in Indiana Jones.:D

Oh I also remembered I could go for some Cloud when he has to cross-dress to gain access to the Don guys mansion.:oops::lol:

Don't stomp on my hopes, man!!! :x

I want her heart!!!! :twisted:

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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Bad idea for me it will plot hole fill already the ruined original plot hole filled storyline...and they'll take 8 years making it.

PS2_ROCKS

huh? which plot holes are you talking about? this only shows you just didnt understand what was going on in the game story wise! everything was explained pretty much

I was definitely on the FF wiki looking up things like Jenova, Holy and Zack. From the game I basically knew what was going on but I felt I was missing large chunks of information.

The FF wiki is full of nonsense made up by fans to fill up the lacking parts of the FF storylines. I wouldn't refer to it.

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[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

No it wouldn't.

hakanakumono

Well, they wouldn't be asking for a remake anymore and that's the only time I ever see them post tbh.

"Square-Enix ruined FFVII."

Expect to see forums flooded with the above.

"Remake the remake!"

They would have to do something extreme to ruin FF7. I could see them doing a number of things that might piss a few of us off. Like removing the entire world map to save time and money. Or making the battle system play exactly like FFXIII. Yeah that would really tick a few people off.
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Does anyone really think remaking FFVII would be a good idea?

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If it is made right, then yes I think it is a good idea. I would love a proper remake.

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[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]Watching

in HD should be worth every penny.

Wonder if we would get to see some chunks of heart flying?? :o

GreenGoblin2099

When did Sephiroth have the Bloody Mess perk?:? I thought he only had "Peerless" or something.:P

Besides this being a Square game I don't think it'll even be as graphic as that scene in Indiana Jones.:D

Oh I also remembered I could go for some Cloud when he has to cross-dress to gain access to the Don guys mansion.:oops::lol:

Don't stomp on my hopes, man!!! :x

I want her heart!!!! :twisted:

Do you want her heart because you couldn't make her fall for you? So you ended up on the date with Barret riding in the trolley car thing?:P

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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]When did Sephiroth have the Bloody Mess perk?:? I thought he only had "Peerless" or something.:P

Besides this being a Square game I don't think it'll even be as graphic as that scene in Indiana Jones.:D

Oh I also remembered I could go for some Cloud when he has to cross-dress to gain access to the Don guys mansion.:oops::lol:

Vyse_Legends

Don't stomp on my hopes, man!!! :x

I want her heart!!!! :twisted:

Do you want her heart because you couldn't make her fall for you? So you ended up on the date with Barret riding in the trolley car thing?:P

I want her heart because that's where Zack lives on... :oops:

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#43 hakanakumono
Member since 2008 • 27455 Posts

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"] Well, they wouldn't be asking for a remake anymore and that's the only time I ever see them post tbh.Crossel777

"Square-Enix ruined FFVII."

Expect to see forums flooded with the above.

"Remake the remake!"

They would have to do something extreme to ruin FF7. I could see them doing a number of things that might piss a few of us off. Like removing the entire world map to save time and money. Or making the battle system play exactly like FFXIII. Yeah that would really tick a few people off.

Hardly. Any change will piss fans off, and any lack of change will piss fans off. If they update the battle system, they'll piss fans off. If they don't update the battle system, they'll piss fans off.

Sidenote, I would love it if a FFVII remake played something like FFXIII.

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#44 Vyse_Legends
Member since 2007 • 9387 Posts

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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Don't stomp on my hopes, man!!! :x

I want her heart!!!! :twisted:

GreenGoblin2099

Do you want her heart because you couldn't make her fall for you? So you ended up on the date with Barret riding in the trolley car thing?:P

I want her heart because that's where Zack lives on... :oops:

Seeing as I'm starting the second disk and haven't played Crisis Core I've no idea why you would want it for that reason because Zack was brought up for like a second.:P

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#45 ultraking
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Id buy it, FF7 was an amazing game.. knights of the round FTMFW!!!
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#46 LegatoSkyheart
Member since 2009 • 29733 Posts

Lots of money to be made on the Most sought after and Most requested Remake since the PS3 was shown.

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#47 GreenGoblin2099
Member since 2004 • 16988 Posts

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]Do you want her heart because you couldn't make her fall for you? So you ended up on the date with Barret riding in the trolley car thing?:P

Vyse_Legends

I want her heart because that's where Zack lives on... :oops:

Seeing as I'm starting the second disk and haven't played Crisis Core I've no idea why you would want it for that reason because Zack was brought up for like a second.:P

Zack>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cloud. 8)

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#48 Rage010101
Member since 2006 • 5470 Posts

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Bad idea for me it will plot hole fill already the ruined original plot hole filled storyline...and they'll take 8 years making it.

PS2_ROCKS

huh? which plot holes are you talking about? this only shows you just didnt understand what was going on in the game story wise! everything was explained pretty much

I was definitely on the FF wiki looking up things like Jenova, Holy and Zack. From the game I basically knew what was going on but I felt I was missing large chunks of information.

what for real? man when i was 13 years old, before there was even any wikis in existence, i was able to fully absorb and understand the whole game: gameplay and story wise. it was pretty clear who jenova was right from the get go..especially when u know who goes freakin nuts and bonkers! holy is mentioned throughout the whole game for crying out loud. zack's story/tale is also easily understood if you payed attention to the scenes/flashbacks/past scenarios. you even get more info when you discover all the secrets in the mansion vincent is in...that is assuming you managed to add him to your party. i didnt find any of it complex at all. everything was pretty much told if your comprehension was focused on it. i can understand somethign like xenogears, but ff7 wasnt complex or confusing in the slightest! then again, i guess thats just me... or does anyone share my opinion?

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#49 Vyse_Legends
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[QUOTE="Vyse_Legends"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]I want her heart because that's where Zack lives on... :oops:GreenGoblin2099

Seeing as I'm starting the second disk and haven't played Crisis Core I've no idea why you would want it for that reason because Zack was brought up for like a second.:P

Zack>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cloud. 8)

Yeah from I've seen of Crisis Core I like Zack's black hair better than Cloud's blondeness.:oops::P

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#50 SteamedBennet
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[QUOTE="SteamedBennet"]It's really not necessary. Square's resources would be best used to make new games. (although a hd update of final fantasy 10 + 12, in the same way as the GOW collection would be nice :))Crossel777

FFXIII-2 doesn't look that necessary either. An fixing that diabolical broken mess that is FFXIV seems like a wasted effort. It's going to take years to fix because it's broken and flawed from the ground up and by the time they do actually fix it, there will be plenty of better mmorpgs to compete with it. They're best off just killing it and moving onto better things.

Well, I wasn't actually talking about XIII-2, nor did I even mention that it had to be a final fantasy game. They could put the resources into versus, type-0, Kh3, another dragon quest game, a new ip. I just don't think remaking to correct the technical flaws it had at the time is necessary. If people didn't like 7 as it was, giving it fancy new graphics is not going to change the core experience.