Does anyone think Valve is working on a new engine?

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#1 dabigsiebowski
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I'm pretty sure they are considering that source is getting pretty out dated but it was fabulous while it lasted. hl2 still looks better than a lot of next gen games. I bet they are gonna be developing episode 3 with source v2.

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#2 mavven
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I'm pretty sure they are considering that source is getting pretty out dated but it was fabulous while it lasted. hl2 still looks better than a lot of next gen games. I bet they are gonna be developing episode 3 with source v2.

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No!! I don't want Episode 3, I want HL3 with a new entire engine (no Source v2, although it was one of the best gfx engines so far) , which will be compare to CryEngine 2 and ID new engine.
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#3 imprezawrx500
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well it is still better overal than unreal 3 so they probably aren't too concerned about a new engine yet, sure they will have a new engine ready got hl3 though.
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#4 delta3074
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I'm pretty sure they are considering that source is getting pretty out dated but it was fabulous while it lasted. hl2 still looks better than a lot of next gen games. I bet they are gonna be developing episode 3 with source v2.

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yeah, i'm expecting source 2 and unreal engine 4 to arrive quite soon, in answer to cryteks cryengine 3, it makes sense doesn't it?
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#5 creativeminded
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They are always working on their next engine so yes
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#6 jack_michael
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the debut of their new engine will be half-life 3.
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#7 skrat_01
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Right now? In the earlier works. Just updating the Source engine seems like something more plausible.
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#8 Cherokee_Jack
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Yes, and it will be done in Fall of 2032.

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#9 110million
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Yeah I expect their working on it, but not for episode 3, I guess based on the recent track record, I'd expect Valve's next engine to be revealed with Half Life 3 in like 2012's E3. :P
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#10 POJO_MOFO
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Source 2 engine should be good. I dont know how they make their engines so scalable, programming geniuses over their at valve
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#11 gamer620
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New engine No. Engine Advancements to Source yes.
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#12 angelkimne
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I just wish they'd announce something. I mean it's been one and a half years since Orange Box.
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#13 passsityo4343
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well it is still better overal than unreal 3 so they probably aren't too concerned about a new engine yet, sure they will have a new engine ready got hl3 though. imprezawrx500
Dude, the source engine only supports lightmaps pre rendered lightsources it doesnt support dynamic lights like unreal engine 3.
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#14 organic_machine
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Right now? In the earlier works. Just updating the Source engine seems like something more plausible.skrat_01

Exactly. With Episode 3, they are going to leave it at source. When DX11 and new consoles kick in, then they'll make a new engine (hopefully not called Source 2, yuck!).

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#15 passsityo4343
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i know some stuff about unreal engine 3 editor mess around with it some, definitely supports dynamic lights unlike source engine. They need to update it up to support dynamic lighting and lol add iron sight to all the guns lol.
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#16 organic_machine
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I just wish they'd announce something. I mean it's been one and a half years since Orange Box.angelkimne

Get this. They originally had two seperate teams working on the episodes. One team worked on Episode 1 and another worked on Episode 2. When the first team finished Episode 1, they started to work on Episode 3. That means Episode 3 has been in years of development. And after the Orange Box, all of Valve has been working on Episode 3. They didn't make Left 4 Dead, that was Turtle Rock. So Valve has been working full force on Episode 3 for quite some time, even before the release of Left 4 Dead and the Orange Box.

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#17 channtheman1
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Valve has stated somewhere (I don't have a link) that they want to bring their games to more people by allowing them to run well on low end hardware. Unless Valve is able to do that in a new engine, I wouldn't hold my breath for one that requires high end PC's.
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#18 Baranga
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Source supports dynamic lightning since 2007.

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#19 passsityo4343
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Source supports dynamic lightning since 2007.

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Lol, it's still all lightmap based and it supports hdr done with shaders fake floating point hdr lol. the flashlights in left 4 dead dont even really cast shadows, if someone else on ur team had a light on a zombie lol you cant even see the other players light casting the shadow, because it's not per pixel lighting model engine.
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#20 iam2green
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i just think valve will upgrade the source engine. the source engine has been around for a really long time now and is still great looking.
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#21 passsityo4343
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The pain engine , used for 1st painkiller only supported lightmaps, but they updated it and supports dynamic lighting, which used in necrovision or new painkiller game being released.
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#22 -snorlax-
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I really hopes it's for a wii exclusive :)
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#23 carter15kd5
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the new valve engine will probably be release sometime wit dx 11

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#24 carter15kd5
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I really hopes it's for a wii exclusive :)-snorlax-
lol dont get ur hopes up the best chance of a console getting a valve exclusive is the 360
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#25 darkmagician06
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[QUOTE="dabigsiebowski"]

I'm pretty sure they are considering that source is getting pretty out dated but it was fabulous while it lasted. hl2 still looks better than a lot of next gen games. I bet they are gonna be developing episode 3 with source v2.

delta3074
yeah, i'm expecting source 2 and unreal engine 4 to arrive quite soon, in answer to cryteks cryengine 3, it makes sense doesn't it?

umm no. cryengine 3 does not look better than cryengine 2. its just more optimized for consoles. expect a new engine from valve/epic next gen (whenever that is)
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#26 angry_fork
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the debut of their new engine will be half-life 3.jack_michael

^That. Half Life 2 Episode 3 will likely be the last Valve game on the HL2 engine.

I'd guess them already 30% into their new engine atleast, it took them what 4-5 years for Half Life 2 engine so i'd imagine another 5-6 years for a new engine starting from say 2005/2006.