Does Microsoft lose the NA market this time around, or will they retain it?

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My honest opinion is that the Xbox One will have a strong launch and maintain some momentum going into next year.  It's not the bad press that is going to kill the Xbox One so much as the people who are only buying it based on the fact that is is the next Xbox are going to start having some negative experiences with it.

 

Once the feedback on the machine starts to become negative, it will slow down.  I also think the PS4 will have better traction going into next year because the hardcore gamer has crowned it champion.  So, I predict that come E3 '14, we will see the second coming of Playstation in full swing.  For now, the dust just hasn't settled from all of this.

Shewgenja

Both consoles will sell out of pre-orders eventually ,but I feel like this is going to be the real blow to microsoft. Once people who buy the console are faced with the DRM restrictions and the negative feedback starts things will go from bad to worse. If you have a PS4 you can lend games to your friends without any restrictions. Thats going to be a very noticable difference between the two consoles when people start playing on both of them.

Some mainstream news sources started reporting that the Xbox One was against the military after some people started making a fuss about how it wouldn't work for them. That's one thing you don't do in America. For most people it doesn't matter what you think of the government so long as you don't specifically insult/act against the troops in any kind of way. In this situation it would be MS designing their system in a way that military personnel couldn't use it. While I don't think it's a big deal myself that's the one thing you don't do in America. If a mainstream news source is reporting that your product is anti-military you're pretty much ****ed.

whiskeystrike

As you can see, Don Mattrick was both mocking and showing a blatant disregard for military personel. Noone was just making this up.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="emgesp"] You really think The Cloud is going to push Xbox One units? Yeah, I think most customers look at price first before anything else. Benny_Blakk

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-face-off-gaikai-vs-onlive

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] Exactly, no one is gonna buy cheap shit. Look at the Wii U. X1 wins by default. mems_1224

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-face-off-gaikai-vs-onlive

As if you could read :lol:

If they can fix the xbox one messaging they may be able to take NA. 

To specifically answer this question, I'm unsure in the long run, but launch year its going to lose NA unless Sony simply runs out of stock.

People may not care about DRM as much as we think(though the effects of the shoutings of those that do care should not be underestimated), but the real reason I see it losing NA is price.

Their is a huge gap, and when parents go to buy a console they will go for the cheaper unit.

People say core gamers are not important, but core gamers are the ones that would pay 500$ for a system,

but they don't give a rat's @$$ about kninect besides its added cost.

Will it still sell though, if you have not seen X Amazon thread, yes it will sale decently at launch, but the odds of a majority are slim unless Microsoft makes severa radical changes(subscription plan, drop fored kinect bundle, slashing of price, ect ect)

dercoo

If they can fix the xbox one messaging they may be able to take NA. 

super600

LOL keep dreaming sheep. Sony is your daddy.

M'soft has pretty much conceded defeat in all regions other than 'Merica. So if they loose in North America as well it will be an absolute disaster. The Xbox One is essentially 'Merica's game box according to Microsoft. I could give two craps, already have my ps4 pre ordered

I imagine it being a clean sweep for Sony.  Internationally, the PS4 will CRUSH the X1.  Domestically, the X1 has a lot of loyalists and is marketing a far different product than Sony to a wider array of consumers.  I think that latter portion is more of a problem than an advantage though and they're going to feel the sting at retail.

if microsoft make deal with cable provider and offer xbox1 bundle with cable subs it will sell like hot cake because most people that buy 360 in NA are not gamers

Probably not. Americans are smart enough to realize the power of the cloud. Foreigners are easily confused so its understandable why they'd go PS4. mems_1224

most people that buy 360 in NA are not gamers

nyzma23

Bullshit.

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Hey guys, check out Amazon's top sellers page.  WOW!!!

 http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=sv_vg_11

UnknownSniper65

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The PS4 bundles have invaded the list

I can see a subsidised version + TV services doing well in the USA, but it won't sell them games.

I expect it to be 60-40 in US/UK and PS4 dominated elsewhere.

*Obligatory PC actually reigns supreme everywhere disclaimer.

System Wars will be really boring unless MS pull their finger out of their arses, and sort the One out.

I can't imagine 10 years of SW with only 3 Lemmings.

Its looks to lose it so the X1 is pretty much dead.

System Wars will be really boring unless MS pull their finger out of their arses, and sort the One out.

I can't imagine 10 years of SW with only 3 Lemmings.

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Probably not. Americans are smart enough to realize the power of the cloud. Foreigners are easily confused so its understandable why they'd go PS4. mems_1224

if Amazon is any indication, MS will lose NA market too check out those PS4 bundles http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1?tag=viglink129408-20#1-Damien-

5 PS4 sku on the top 20 and Forza which was the only game for xbox one on the top 20 was knock down from the top 20..:lol:

To be honest I doubt it, they will lose market share thats certain

[QUOTE="-Damien-"]if Amazon is any indication, MS will lose NA market too check out those PS4 bundles http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1?tag=viglink129408-20#1tormentos

5 PS4 sku on the top 20 and Forza which was the only game for xbox one on the top 20 was knock down from the top 20..:lol:

TBH I foresee the X1 and PS4 being neck and neck most of next gen.  Will one eventually pull ahead?  Probably.

Plenty of people are brand loyal (whether they admit it or not) and tend to stick with what they are familiar with.  From what I've seen here in NA that's the 360 by a 3:1 ratio.  This is only judging from my own firsthand experience.

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[QUOTE="-Damien-"]if Amazon is any indication, MS will lose NA market too check out those PS4 bundles http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=pd_dp_ts_vg_1?tag=viglink129408-20#1shadiezz2012

5 PS4 sku on the top 20 and Forza which was the only game for xbox one on the top 20 was knock down from the top 20..:lol:

But but it floppeed on gamespot no one would buy it..:lol:

microsoft still has their fanboys, i do think they are going to lose alot of marketshare though, people are already selling in their 360's and games since nothing is coming out for the system where as sony i'm sure is moving ps3 units with the last of us 

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5 PS4 sku on the top 20 and Forza which was the only game for xbox one on the top 20 was knock down from the top 20..:lol:

tormentos

But but it floppeed on gamespot no one would buy it..:lol:

They'll do fine. They have the games. A lot of the complaints I see are coming from people who will buy a X1 anyways. I was talking to some people at work who are very mildly into gaming and they didn't even know there were PS4 announcements happening last week but they did know the X1 had something going on. I told them the PS4 was $100 less but they said, "well the Xbox comes with that camera thing so it makes sense." They responded to the internet issue in the same way I think almost everyone in the real world will: "oh, well I have the internet."Senor_Kami

Well Xbox One uses cloud, in the future cloud will be an infinite resource of hardware and allow for games to be run on hardware not in ur home but streamed to ur television via broadband high speed internet connection.

Well Xbox One uses cloud, in the future cloud will be an infinite resource of hardware and allow for games to be run on hardware not in ur home but streamed to ur television via broadband high speed internet connection.

kickingcarpet