Does Microsoft's "Stealing" Sony Franchises Hurt Their Own Credibility

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Kinda of odd of wanting others to play other series that was only on PS2

Well, Gamers don't read these articles, they just care to play.

It's interesting take on the whole thing, but ultimately it's Sony fault for allowing things like this to take place, unless they don't care.

Well, Gamers don't read these articles, they just care to play.

It's interesting take on the whole thing, but ultimately it's Sony fault for allowing things like this to take place, unless they don't care.

SolidTy

It's nothing they can do.

If MS is paying for games to go multiplat. Do you really believe that Sony has the money to compete with what MS might keep offering.

Then Sony having the lowest consumer base is hurting their chances to have exlusives without the need to pay for it.

Sony is going the correct way and focusing on 1st and 2nd party titles.

actually they gain credibility for their fanbase.too_much_eslim

No. It just show that they are being aggressive competitors. I think the only people who credibility should be questioned is someone who thinks that it's a bad thing. You see these people are overlooking something that should be pretty damn obvious....

Microsoft has customers to please. They also want more customers, so getting the games on their system that people identify with what was previously the world leader in videogames (consoles) should be seen as a smart BUSINESS decision.

And it is.

Until I see GoW, or Gran Turismo on 360, Microsoft isn't stealing SONY franchises.

NONE of these games ever "belonged" to Sony in the first place, so they were never "stolen". Their exclusivity in the past has no bearing on the present either, and while that past exclusivity may create some illusion of "ownership", percpeption doesn't equal reality.

And people crying and whining about 360 aquiring PS3 franchises have very short memories (or haven't been gaming for more than 8 years) as Final Fantasy and Metal Gear were originally on the Nintendo platform.

Wow...How can they steal something that wasn't even sealed to be theirs?

Sony was the top dog last gen. Things have changed. If they want to blame anyone, blame Sony, not Microsoft.

I just do not see how getting more quality games on their system is going to hurt their credibility, lol. Now, I love my PS3, but I personally feel that Sony is not trying hard enough to keep exclusives....and that is their fault. Just being honest.

These were never "Sony's franchises". Sony just were on the brink of monopolizing the video game market last generation, and thus received the most 3rd party dev support. Now Sony isn't the top dog, so reality is kicking in.BioShockOwnz

it is kinda pathetic when u think about, MS has the money to think of better and more original games, they just seem to pay for others. thats not to say they can't think of great games, its just they need to do more of it and not praise a game to get it to come to 360 (mgs4 cough)

just makes them desperate.

anyways, 360 has the best games..thats what counts.

I think MS looks far better. They are making sure their fanbase has a great selection of games to play.

The most big named fighters

the most wrpgs

the most jrpgs

the only console with RTS games

a large selection of casual games

Getting content no other console is able to get on big name games such Fallout and GTA

And with all this the 360 still has the

Highest rated FPS

Highest rated TPS

Highest rated racer

Cows just mad that their console messiah is not living up to their dreams. MS has is not pulling any punches this gen and making sure their fanbase has a great selection of games. I say power to them.

Until I see GoW, or Gran Turismo on 360, Microsoft isn't stealing SONY franchises.

Blue-Sky

The 360 does not need another arcade racer that takes 6-7 years to make......

Well, maybe if it DID steal them.

Since MS isn't stealing anything, no, no it dose not.

The Devs see more profit in developing for the Xbox too, so they do it. MS just encourage them. Until we see some proof that MS is paying them all off.

I'm sure when Sony started doing these things with previously committed Nintendo "third party" developers in the late 90's, credibility was there major concern o_O. Really now.. it's all fair game and I can only see it as a benefit from a business perspective, even Nintendo did the same with the Resident Evil franchise for a short period of time. visionary

Whoa, hey. I never see you around these parts.

Considering all of the games MS has "stolen" (ugh...) have never been Sony's to begin with, no, I don't believe they hurt MS's credibility.The_Game21x

While you are correct, games like Tekken, Star Ocean, and Final Fantasy have been considered flagship titles for Sony. Microsoft definitely stole them, and I commend them for that. Microsoft made the most accessible system for developers--and they deserve "Sony's" games.

[QUOTE="visionary"]I'm sure when Sony started doing these things with previously committed Nintendo "third party" developers in the late 90's, credibility was there major concern o_O. Really now.. it's all fair game and I can only see it as a benefit from a business perspective, even Nintendo did the same with the Resident Evil franchise for a short period of time. The_Game21x

Whoa, hey. I never see you around these parts.

Yeah I used to hang around system wars a while ago, I'm only now starting to check the place out again among other forum spots. I didn't expect to see you around these parts either :P

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]Considering all of the games MS has "stolen" (ugh...) have never been Sony's to begin with, no, I don't believe they hurt MS's credibility.Bentham

While you are correct, games like Tekken, Star Ocean, and Final Fantasy have been considered flagship titles for Sony. Microsoft definitely stole them, and I commend them for that. Microsoft made the most accessible system for developers--and they deserve "Sony's" games.

For all we know, Microsoft could've had nothing to do with it. For all we know, Square-Enix and Namco-Bandai could've come to Microsoft and asked if they could make their games on the Xbox 360. There's no concrete proof that shows that Microsoft went to them, slid them a blank check and pulled the rug right out from under Sony.

True enough, these are longtime staples of the Playstation brand (well, except Final Fantasy and Star Ocean. Those began with Nintendo) but to say MS "stole" them, you would also have to show that these developers made some sort of deal with Sony to keep the games exclusive or loan them the IPs. As another poster already said, unless we start seeing titles like Gran Turismo or God of War on the 360 (IPs that Sony actually own), MS will not have stolen anything.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="visionary"]I'm sure when Sony started doing these things with previously committed Nintendo "third party" developers in the late 90's, credibility was there major concern o_O. Really now.. it's all fair game and I can only see it as a benefit from a business perspective, even Nintendo did the same with the Resident Evil franchise for a short period of time. visionary

Whoa, hey. I never see you around these parts.

Yeah I used to hang around system wars a while ago, I'm only now starting to check the place out again among other forum spots. I didn't expect to see you around these parts either :P

Ah, interesting.

I'm a longtime System Warrior myself, having discovered this lovely (lol) place in late 2005 and somehow becoming entranced by the prospect of having friendly (again, lol) debates with my fellow GameSpot members.

For all we know, Microsoft could've had nothing to do with it. For all we know, Square-Enix and Namco-Bandai could've come to Microsoft and asked if they could make their games on the Xbox 360. There's no concrete proof that shows that Microsoft went to them, slid them a blank check and pulled the rug right out from under Sony.

True enough, these are longtime staples of the Playstation brand (well, except Final Fantasy and Star Ocean. Those began with Nintendo) but to say MS "stole" them, you would also have to show that these developers made some sort of deal with Sony to keep the games exclusive or loan them the IPs. As another poster already said, unless we start seeing titles like Gran Turismo or God of War on the 360 (IPs that Sony actually own), MS will not have stolen anything.

The_Game21x

I didn't mean Microsoft literally stole them; I simply meant that by developing the more accessible system for developers/having a bigger fanbase, Microsoft stole the games. This is a good thing, no doubt.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

For all we know, Microsoft could've had nothing to do with it. For all we know, Square-Enix and Namco-Bandai could've come to Microsoft and asked if they could make their games on the Xbox 360. There's no concrete proof that shows that Microsoft went to them, slid them a blank check and pulled the rug right out from under Sony.

True enough, these are longtime staples of the Playstation brand (well, except Final Fantasy and Star Ocean. Those began with Nintendo) but to say MS "stole" them, you would also have to show that these developers made some sort of deal with Sony to keep the games exclusive or loan them the IPs. As another poster already said, unless we start seeing titles like Gran Turismo or God of War on the 360 (IPs that Sony actually own), MS will not have stolen anything.

Bentham

I didn't mean Microsoft literally stole them; I simply meant that by developing the more accessible system for developers/having a bigger fanbase, Microsoft stole the games. This is a good thing, no doubt.

Okay, when you put it that way, I guess I can see where you're coming from.

I would say only about 1% of gamers or people in general even care about anything "political" in the gaming world. Its not important to those who just play games.

And IF MS buys something its not stealing...Same goes with Sony or NIN...

I would say only about 1% of gamers or people in general even care about anything "political" in the gaming world. Its not important to those who just play games.

And IF MS buys something its not stealing...Same goes with Sony or NIN...

FunkyHeadHunter

and whats weird about that? people think this is cool and buys another one!!!!!! you have to get tired of system that cost you more than a penny to break down like that..... when mines broke im glad i had my ps3..... matter of fact i buy most games for my ps3 now. i keep my 360 for the exclusives, you people say the 360 version is this and that..... but the 360 is junk, and im scared its gonna break again.

NONE of these games ever "belonged" to Sony in the first place, so they were never "stolen". Their exclusivity in the past has no bearing on the present either, and while that past exclusivity may create some illusion of "ownership", percpeption doesn't equal reality.

And people crying and whining about 360 aquiring PS3 franchises have very short memories (or haven't been gaming for more than 8 years) as Final Fantasy and Metal Gear were originally on the Nintendo platform.

AdobeArtist

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

NONE of these games ever "belonged" to Sony in the first place, so they were never "stolen". Their exclusivity in the past has no bearing on the present either, and while that past exclusivity may create some illusion of "ownership", percpeption doesn't equal reality.

And people crying and whining about 360 aquiring PS3 franchises have very short memories (or haven't been gaming for more than 8 years) as Final Fantasy and Metal Gear were originally on the Nintendo platform.

campzor

Is Naughty Dog a 3rd party dev - like Namco, Square, Epic, Bethesda, Capcom, etc... - or 1st party like Bungie was up until recently?

Is Naughty Dog a 3rd party dev - like Namco, Square, Epic, Bethesda, Capcom, etc... - or 1st party like Bungie was up until recently?

AdobeArtist

No, Naughty Dog is entirely owned by SONY. They are 1st party. When Naughty Dog makes a game, it's made by Sony. They got bought out years ago.

looks more like a blogpost than anything else to me

either way, Sony isn't top dog anymore. They have good competition now so it's kinda obvious that 3rd party publishers (money hungry as they are) are jumping the sony ship and start releasing games on the 360 (or both PS3/360).

NONE of these games ever "belonged" to Sony in the first place, so they were never "stolen". Their exclusivity in the past has no bearing on the present either, and while that past exclusivity may create some illusion of "ownership", percpeption doesn't equal reality.

And people crying and whining about 360 aquiring PS3 franchises have very short memories (or haven't been gaming for more than 8 years) as Final Fantasy and Metal Gear were originally on the Nintendo platform.

AdobeArtist

And GTA was a PC original which cows seem to forget all too easily as well.