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#1 Kennysolidsnake
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Ok whats the deal here.. the 360 has been getting killed this year in terms of AAAE and its as though they dont even care.. I mean it was like a MS executive had a board meeting with its shareholders and said "Ok my fellow executives, our goal for 2009 is to release Halo ODST, sell millions and go home" and the board members are voted yes to that plan. and Next year doesnt look so hot either.. I mean Games like MAG, Heavy Rain, God Of War 3 and Gran Turismo 5 all come out next year at the START of the year between Januarary and April while all of 360s semi good exclusives come out next fall... So is MS going to just sit back and let Sony just kill them the first half of next year with their killer line up and let PS3 take even more of a lead? I mean Where is Gears of war 3, thats the reason i bought my 360 3 years ago was because of Gears and Gears 3 is nowhere in sight.. Halo Reach? I dont want another Halo, give me variety MS not the same ole same ole.. So my question is, is MS just sitting back counting the money of all their Xbox live gold members paying them a yearly fee and forgetting about games? It just seems like MS gaming division morale is just down, i mean the previous years you would ALWAYS have PR from MS updating gamers with new games, coming out and atleast fighting back, this year its like they just plain ole dont care.. Yea they cut the price of the 360 but now the 360 is the same exact price as the PS3 for the first time and MS would have NEVER let that happen the last few years.
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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]Halo Reach? I dont want another Halo, give me variety MS not the same ole same ole..

This isn't about you. It's about money. And they seem to be ahead of the competition on that front. And before you say anything about them being greedy...Sony and every other single for-profit company in the world is in the same boat.
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Nope they don't care, after this year they are only going to have Natal and a pool of money from all the people paying to play Halo 3.

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#4 coolnessmancool
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how original another 360 bashing thread

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What M$ cares about and will always care about only is MONEY!

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Question, is this all just because ps3 got another exclusive 9.0 game?
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#7 Alpha-Male22
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Just because PS3 has had a great year doesn't mean MS is somehow losing the will to fight. We only need to go back to the start of this generation to see that.

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Nope they don't care, after this year they are only going to have Natal and a pool of money from all the people paying to play Halo 3.

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Exactly! Ive been saying it the last few years that MS long term strategy is to come out with 2 stellar online exclusive shooters (Gears and Halo) and have gamers keep paying the Xbox live renewal fee year after year just so they can keep playing those games online and let MS collect the billions in xbox live membership fees over the years, its easy money for MS and is making them complacent.
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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]Ok whats the deal here.. the 360 has been getting killed this year in terms of AAAE and its as though they dont even care.. I mean it was like a MS executive had a board meeting with its shareholders and said "Ok my fellow executives, our goal for 2009 is to release Halo ODST, sell millions and go home" and the board members are voted yes to that plan. and Next year doesnt look so hot either.. I mean Games like MAG, Heavy Rain, God Of War 3 and Gran Turismo 5 all come out next year at the START of the year between Januarary and April while all of 360s semi good exclusives come out next fall... So is MS going to just sit back and let Sony just kill them the first half of next year with their killer line up and let PS3 take even more of a lead? I mean Where is Gears of war 3, thats the reason i bought my 360 3 years ago was because of Gears and Gears 3 is nowhere in sight.. Halo Reach? I dont want another Halo, give me variety MS not the same ole same ole.. So my question is, is MS just sitting back counting the money of all their Xbox live gold members paying them a yearly fee and forgetting about games? It just seems like MS gaming division morale is just down, i mean the previous years you would ALWAYS have PR from MS updating gamers with new games, coming out and atleast fighting back, this year its like they just plain ole dont care.. Yea they cut the price of the 360 but now the 360 is the same exact price as the PS3 for the first time and MS would have NEVER let that happen the last few years.

Mass Effect 2 = Best game coming out next year.
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Do they care about the AAAE count in System wars? I don't think they ever did.
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What M$ cares about and will always care about only is MONEY!

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So does every single corporation ever.
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Question, is this all just because ps3 got another exclusive 9.0 game?Javieralijandro
That and this whole year PS3 has just been killing the 360 in terms of AAAE, I mean nearly ALL of PS3 exclusives have scored AAA aside from Ninja Gaiden sigma 2..
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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]Ok whats the deal here.. the 360 has been getting killed this year in terms of AAAE and its as though they dont even care.. I mean it was like a MS executive had a board meeting with its shareholders and said "Ok my fellow executives, our goal for 2009 is to release Halo ODST, sell millions and go home" and the board members are voted yes to that plan. and Next year doesnt look so hot either.. I mean Games like MAG, Heavy Rain, God Of War 3 and Gran Turismo 5 all come out next year at the START of the year between Januarary and April while all of 360s semi good exclusives come out next fall... So is MS going to just sit back and let Sony just kill them the first half of next year with their killer line up and let PS3 take even more of a lead? I mean Where is Gears of war 3, thats the reason i bought my 360 3 years ago was because of Gears and Gears 3 is nowhere in sight.. Halo Reach? I dont want another Halo, give me variety MS not the same ole same ole.. So my question is, is MS just sitting back counting the money of all their Xbox live gold members paying them a yearly fee and forgetting about games? It just seems like MS gaming division morale is just down, i mean the previous years you would ALWAYS have PR from MS updating gamers with new games, coming out and atleast fighting back, this year its like they just plain ole dont care.. Yea they cut the price of the 360 but now the 360 is the same exact price as the PS3 for the first time and MS would have NEVER let that happen the last few years.Dweedleking5000
Mass Effect 2 = Best game coming out next year.

and best on PC.
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Nope they don't care, after this year they are only going to have Natal and a pool of money from all the people paying to play Halo 3.

Kennysolidsnake

Exactly! Ive been saying it the last few years that MS long term strategy is to come out with 2 stellar online exclusive shooters (Gears and Halo) and have gamers keep paying the Xbox live renewal fee year after year just so they can keep playing those games online and let MS collect the billions in xbox live membership fees over the years, its easy money for MS and is making them complacent.

Except I was being sarcastic and you weren't.

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Microsoft does browse System Wars occasionally, and I think it was after inFamous scoring a 9.0 here on Gamespot that MS stopped caring about winning the console war. They did have to put out Halo ODST this year, however, but that was only because MS almost went bankrupt because they didn't have any AAAe's for the first 9 months of this year.

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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]Ok whats the deal here.. the 360 has been getting killed this year in terms of AAAE and its as though they dont even care.. I mean it was like a MS executive had a board meeting with its shareholders and said "Ok my fellow executives, our goal for 2009 is to release Halo ODST, sell millions and go home" and the board members are voted yes to that plan. and Next year doesnt look so hot either.. I mean Games like MAG, Heavy Rain, God Of War 3 and Gran Turismo 5 all come out next year at the START of the year between Januarary and April while all of 360s semi good exclusives come out next fall... So is MS going to just sit back and let Sony just kill them the first half of next year with their killer line up and let PS3 take even more of a lead? I mean Where is Gears of war 3, thats the reason i bought my 360 3 years ago was because of Gears and Gears 3 is nowhere in sight.. Halo Reach? I dont want another Halo, give me variety MS not the same ole same ole.. So my question is, is MS just sitting back counting the money of all their Xbox live gold members paying them a yearly fee and forgetting about games? It just seems like MS gaming division morale is just down, i mean the previous years you would ALWAYS have PR from MS updating gamers with new games, coming out and atleast fighting back, this year its like they just plain ole dont care.. Yea they cut the price of the 360 but now the 360 is the same exact price as the PS3 for the first time and MS would have NEVER let that happen the last few years.Dweedleking5000
Mass Effect 2 = Best game coming out next year.

Mass Effect 2 will be great i agree but that wont come out until fall of next year at the very least while PS3 will start out the first half of the year with a bang with MAG,god of war 3, heavy rain and gran turismo 5.. What will MS have to counter the first half of the year
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[QUOTE="Dweedleking5000"][QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]Ok whats the deal here.. the 360 has been getting killed this year in terms of AAAE and its as though they dont even care.. I mean it was like a MS executive had a board meeting with its shareholders and said "Ok my fellow executives, our goal for 2009 is to release Halo ODST, sell millions and go home" and the board members are voted yes to that plan. and Next year doesnt look so hot either.. I mean Games like MAG, Heavy Rain, God Of War 3 and Gran Turismo 5 all come out next year at the START of the year between Januarary and April while all of 360s semi good exclusives come out next fall... So is MS going to just sit back and let Sony just kill them the first half of next year with their killer line up and let PS3 take even more of a lead? I mean Where is Gears of war 3, thats the reason i bought my 360 3 years ago was because of Gears and Gears 3 is nowhere in sight.. Halo Reach? I dont want another Halo, give me variety MS not the same ole same ole.. So my question is, is MS just sitting back counting the money of all their Xbox live gold members paying them a yearly fee and forgetting about games? It just seems like MS gaming division morale is just down, i mean the previous years you would ALWAYS have PR from MS updating gamers with new games, coming out and atleast fighting back, this year its like they just plain ole dont care.. Yea they cut the price of the 360 but now the 360 is the same exact price as the PS3 for the first time and MS would have NEVER let that happen the last few years.Kennysolidsnake
Mass Effect 2 = Best game coming out next year.

Mass Effect 2 will be great i agree but that wont come out until fall of next year at the very least while PS3 will start out the first half of the year with a bang with MAG,god of war 3, heavy rain and gran turismo 5.. What will MS have to counter the first half of the year

Mass Effect 2 is early 2010.
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Speaking of Halo, what was the point of Bungie splitting (sort of) from MS because they wanted make more than just Halo games? I haven't heard about a new IP from them yet.

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What M$ cares about and will always care about only is MONEY!

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SONY: the non-profit organization giving gamers smiles or your money back //sarcasm
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[QUOTE="Javieralijandro"]Question, is this all just because ps3 got another exclusive 9.0 game?Kennysolidsnake
That and this whole year PS3 has just been killing the 360 in terms of AAAE, I mean nearly ALL of PS3 exclusives have scored AAA aside from Ninja Gaiden sigma 2..

NGS 2 is not exclusive and why again should anyone care about review scores of the game doesn't sell?

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[QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

What M$ cares about and will always care about only is MONEY!

pyromaniac223

So does every single corporation ever.

No. Sony willingly invested billions of dollars into the PS3 and was losing money on each console sold to please the gamers by releasing the best games this gen exclusively on the PS3 because it can only be done on the ps3.

They are not greedy at all, plus their hardware doesn't break down so they actually bothered to make a good hardware architecture to make sure we gamers get the best product available even at Sony's expense

MS and Nintendo are greedy not Sony.

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the rrod issue should answer you question.

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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

What M$ cares about and will always care about only is MONEY!

SONY: the non-profit organization giving gamers smiles or your money back //sarcasm

Actually i do think all corporations ofcourse care about money but the difference is MS passion is making money while they like making games.. while Sony's passion is making great and creative games and LIKE making money.. the difference is MS is DRIVEN by profits profits profits no matter what! wireless adapters at $100.00, hard drives at $150.00, wireless headsets at $60.00, pay to play online etc etc.. while yes sony is driven by money as well but i truely believe their gaming division has more of a passion for games and gaming in general.. you can just see it in the quality of titles Sony's developers put out, sure Sony likes money also and are in it for the money but there is no denying that Sony's gaming division has a lot more passion on their side in terms of making great games
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

What M$ cares about and will always care about only is MONEY!

Aku101

So does every single corporation ever.

No. Sony willingly invested billions of dollars into the PS3 and was losing money on each console sold to please the gamers by releasing the best games this gen exclusively on the PS3 because it can only be done on the ps3.

They are not greedy at all, plus their hardware doesn't break down so they actually bothered to make a good hardware architecture to make sure we gamers get the best product available even at Sony's expense

MS and Nintendo are greedy not Sony.

ahahahahahahahaha.

I'm sorry. Take an economics class. Actually, just read an econ book. Actually, just look up the definition of capitalism on wikipedia. Sony is greedy. If they weren't they wouldn't be in business.

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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"]Ok whats the deal here.. the 360 has been getting killed this year in terms of AAAE and its as though they dont even care.. I mean it was like a MS executive had a board meeting with its shareholders and said "Ok my fellow executives, our goal for 2009 is to release Halo ODST, sell millions and go home" and the board members are voted yes to that plan. and Next year doesnt look so hot either.. I mean Games like MAG, Heavy Rain, God Of War 3 and Gran Turismo 5 all come out next year at the START of the year between Januarary and April while all of 360s semi good exclusives come out next fall... So is MS going to just sit back and let Sony just kill them the first half of next year with their killer line up and let PS3 take even more of a lead? I mean Where is Gears of war 3, thats the reason i bought my 360 3 years ago was because of Gears and Gears 3 is nowhere in sight.. Halo Reach? I dont want another Halo, give me variety MS not the same ole same ole.. So my question is, is MS just sitting back counting the money of all their Xbox live gold members paying them a yearly fee and forgetting about games? It just seems like MS gaming division morale is just down, i mean the previous years you would ALWAYS have PR from MS updating gamers with new games, coming out and atleast fighting back, this year its like they just plain ole dont care.. Yea they cut the price of the 360 but now the 360 is the same exact price as the PS3 for the first time and MS would have NEVER let that happen the last few years.

sadly, my friend, Ms does care about money. And looks like they're letting ps3 destroy them at first, because they're betting very hard on Project Natal, but I don't know if that's good news for us gamers.. I fear that there won't be many good games, but just some games for "us" and lots of games for that large chunk of the market they wanna conquer. And I think they'll really get lots of non-gamers' attention with Project Natal and they won't care if we'll be here complaining about the lack of good exclusives or so. Project Natal is gonna be huge.. people have been talking about it with no-stop since they first mentioned it. They will compete with Nintendo, they may even win the console war, but they'll lose my esteem. Gamers want games, even Nintendo understood it, look at its 2010 lineup, it's already huge. And the Ps3's is not bad either.
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um actually they lost money this gen thanks to rrod try again next time , and yes they are greedy 99 for wireless 50 per yr forxbl upwards of 30 dollars just to get every dlc per game

lol

stop denying it they are nickel and diming you each step of the way ,, nintendo is the only one who uses a disc to its compacity and if they dont have room for more they make another installment -smg 2 and add on to that lol

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

What M$ cares about and will always care about only is MONEY!

Aku101

So does every single corporation ever.

No. Sony willingly invested billions of dollars into the PS3 and was losing money on each console sold to please the gamers by releasing the best games this gen exclusively on the PS3 because it can only be done on the ps3.

They are not greedy at all, plus their hardware doesn't break down so they actually bothered to make a good hardware architecture to make sure we gamers get the best product available even at Sony's expense

MS and Nintendo are greedy not Sony.

The Sony marketing department just called, they want their minimum wage salary they gave you to plug it back. If they care so much about gamers then why did they release a handheld system that requires people to rebuy games they already own to play on it?

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[QUOTE="Aku101"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

What M$ cares about and will always care about only is MONEY!

So does every single corporation ever.

No. Sony willingly invested billions of dollars into the PS3 and was losing money on each console sold to please the gamers by releasing the best games this gen exclusively on the PS3 because it can only be done on the ps3.

They are not greedy at all, plus their hardware doesn't break down so they actually bothered to make a good hardware architecture to make sure we gamers get the best product available even at Sony's expense

MS and Nintendo are greedy not Sony.

Exactly! Ofcourse Sony is driven by profits like any other company but Sony's goal is to make big profits while coming out with great games and being more passionate about gaming in general.. For some reason when i look at MS e3 conferences it just seems like all their executives are driven by money and money only and when i watch Sony's E3 Press conferences it just seems like those guys have more of a overall passion of making great games and truely pleasing the gamers all the while making good money while doing it.
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[QUOTE="Aku101"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] So does every single corporation ever.pyromaniac223

No. Sony willingly invested billions of dollars into the PS3 and was losing money on each console sold to please the gamers by releasing the best games this gen exclusively on the PS3 because it can only be done on the ps3.

They are not greedy at all, plus their hardware doesn't break down so they actually bothered to make a good hardware architecture to make sure we gamers get the best product available even at Sony's expense

MS and Nintendo are greedy not Sony.

ahahahahahahahaha.

I'm sorry. Take an economics class. Actually, just read an econ book. Actually, just look up the definition of capitalism on wikipedia. Sony is greedy. If they weren't they wouldn't be in business.

Sony cares about their customers first and foremost over money. Prove to me that Sony is greedy. They have been nothing but benevlolent to us gamers this gen.

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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"][QUOTE="Javieralijandro"]Question, is this all just because ps3 got another exclusive 9.0 game?MizFitAwesome

That and this whole year PS3 has just been killing the 360 in terms of AAAE, I mean nearly ALL of PS3 exclusives have scored AAA aside from Ninja Gaiden sigma 2..

NGS 2 is not exclusive and why again should anyone care about review scores of the game doesn't sell?

Falling back to the sales games eh?

Ratings indicate the quality of a game where as sales don't tell you directly how good a game is. It's pretty obvious, isn't it?

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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"][QUOTE="Javieralijandro"]Question, is this all just because ps3 got another exclusive 9.0 game?MizFitAwesome

That and this whole year PS3 has just been killing the 360 in terms of AAAE, I mean nearly ALL of PS3 exclusives have scored AAA aside from Ninja Gaiden sigma 2..

NGS 2 is not exclusive and why again should anyone care about review scores of the game doesn't sell?

Because it's better tool to help one determine what games he/she is likely to enjoy (even better if one reads the reviews). Sales mostly represent how well a game is advertised or marketed. It means virtually nothing in terms of quality. If that were the case, Mercenaries 2 would've been nominated for GOTY. Also, this may come as a shock to you, but games don't need to achieve Halo numbers or higher in order to profit. So try again.

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

No. Sony willingly invested billions of dollars into the PS3 and was losing money on each console sold to please the gamers by releasing the best games this gen exclusively on the PS3 because it can only be done on the ps3.

They are not greedy at all, plus their hardware doesn't break down so they actually bothered to make a good hardware architecture to make sure we gamers get the best product available even at Sony's expense

MS and Nintendo are greedy not Sony.

Aku101

ahahahahahahahaha.

I'm sorry. Take an economics class. Actually, just read an econ book. Actually, just look up the definition of capitalism on wikipedia. Sony is greedy. If they weren't they wouldn't be in business.

Sony cares about their customers first and foremost over money. Prove to me that Sony is greedy. They have been nothing but benevlolent to us gamers this gen.

http://www.us.playstation.com/psp/pspgo/

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[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"] That and this whole year PS3 has just been killing the 360 in terms of AAAE, I mean nearly ALL of PS3 exclusives have scored AAA aside from Ninja Gaiden sigma 2.. nervmeister

NGS 2 is not exclusive and why again should anyone care about review scores of the game doesn't sell?

Because it's better tool to help one decide what to buy. Sales mostly represent how well a game is advertised or marketed. It means virtually nothing in terms of quality. If that were the case, Mercenaries 2 would've been nominated for GOTY. Also, this may come as a shock to you, but games don't need to achieve Halo numbers or higher in order to profit. So try again.

Don't worry, he knows the rating is great for PS3 Exclusives lately so he falls back to the sales games. If the rating was bad, he'd be all over it. If The Rating Is Great, Attack the Sales, Despite Having No Relevance to the rating (which is what I've seen him do many times).
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#34 Heartagram_03
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I agree. M$ better get off their a$$ or they can lose 2nd place in this gen. Sony is slowly catching up compared to online standards and their exclusives are killing since 2008.

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#35 SpiritOfFire117
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[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

What M$ cares about and will always care about only is MONEY!

Kennysolidsnake
SONY: the non-profit organization giving gamers smiles or your money back //sarcasm

Actually i do think all corporations ofcourse care about money but the difference is MS passion is making money while they like making games.. while Sony's passion is making great and creative games and LIKE making money.. the difference is MS is DRIVEN by profits profits profits no matter what! wireless adapters at $100.00, hard drives at $150.00, wireless headsets at $60.00, pay to play online etc etc.. while yes sony is driven by money as well but i truely believe their gaming division has more of a passion for games and gaming in general.. you can just see it in the quality of titles Sony's developers put out, sure Sony likes money also and are in it for the money but there is no denying that Sony's gaming division has a lot more passion on their side in terms of making great games

Are you basing this on the fact that several good games came out for the PS3 recently AND were exclusive, or are you actually comparing development quality? Because a gaming division can show passion even if the game happens to go to another system.
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#36 MizFitAwesome
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[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"] That and this whole year PS3 has just been killing the 360 in terms of AAAE, I mean nearly ALL of PS3 exclusives have scored AAA aside from Ninja Gaiden sigma 2.. nervmeister

NGS 2 is not exclusive and why again should anyone care about review scores of the game doesn't sell?

Because it's a far better tool to help one decide what to play (even better if one decides to actually read the reviews). Sales mostly represent how well a game is advertised or marketed. It means virtually nothing in terms of quality. If that were the case, Mercenaries 2 would've been nominated for GOTY. Also, this may come as a shock to you, but games don't need to achieve Halo numbers or higher in order to profit. So try again.

Actually renting is better, then again some of us prefer to use our own experiences with a game rather then rely on someone elses opinion to determine the games quality. Those of us that aren't blind followers...

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

No. Sony willingly invested billions of dollars into the PS3 and was losing money on each console sold to please the gamers by releasing the best games this gen exclusively on the PS3 because it can only be done on the ps3.

They are not greedy at all, plus their hardware doesn't break down so they actually bothered to make a good hardware architecture to make sure we gamers get the best product available even at Sony's expense

MS and Nintendo are greedy not Sony.

Aku101

ahahahahahahahaha.

I'm sorry. Take an economics class. Actually, just read an econ book. Actually, just look up the definition of capitalism on wikipedia. Sony is greedy. If they weren't they wouldn't be in business.

Sony cares about their customers first and foremost over money. Prove to me that Sony is greedy. They have been nothing but benevlolent to us gamers this gen.

Oh come on. Sony doesn't get paid with happy customers, they get paid with money like everybody else.
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[QUOTE="Aku101"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] So does every single corporation ever.MizFitAwesome

No. Sony willingly invested billions of dollars into the PS3 and was losing money on each console sold to please the gamers by releasing the best games this gen exclusively on the PS3 because it can only be done on the ps3.

They are not greedy at all, plus their hardware doesn't break down so they actually bothered to make a good hardware architecture to make sure we gamers get the best product available even at Sony's expense

MS and Nintendo are greedy not Sony.

The Sony marketing department just called, they want their minimum wage salary they gave you to plug it back. If they care so much about gamers then why did they release a handheld system that requires people to rebuy games they already own to play on it?

WOW! then don't purchase the PSPgo!! :o amazing....

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[QUOTE="Aku101"]

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

No. Sony willingly invested billions of dollars into the PS3 and was losing money on each console sold to please the gamers by releasing the best games this gen exclusively on the PS3 because it can only be done on the ps3.

They are not greedy at all, plus their hardware doesn't break down so they actually bothered to make a good hardware architecture to make sure we gamers get the best product available even at Sony's expense

MS and Nintendo are greedy not Sony.

ahahahahahahahaha.

I'm sorry. Take an economics class. Actually, just read an econ book. Actually, just look up the definition of capitalism on wikipedia. Sony is greedy. If they weren't they wouldn't be in business.

Sony cares about their customers first and foremost over money. Prove to me that Sony is greedy. They have been nothing but benevlolent to us gamers this gen.

I can't play PS2 games on my PS3... :|
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#40 Aku101
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Oh come on. Sony doesn't get paid with happy customers, they get paid with money like everybody else.Alpha-Male22

happy customers = loyal customers = more money in the long run. It's a smart investment.

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#41 MizFitAwesome
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

NGS 2 is not exclusive and why again should anyone care about review scores of the game doesn't sell?

Alpha-Male22

Because it's better tool to help one decide what to buy. Sales mostly represent how well a game is advertised or marketed. It means virtually nothing in terms of quality. If that were the case, Mercenaries 2 would've been nominated for GOTY. Also, this may come as a shock to you, but games don't need to achieve Halo numbers or higher in order to profit. So try again.

Don't worry, he knows the rating is great for PS3 Exclusives lately so he falls back to the sales games. If the rating was bad, he'd be all over it. If The Rating Is Great, Attack the Sales, Despite Having No Relevance to the rating (which is what I've seen him do many times).

Yet I can see all of those high rated games collecting dust in videogame cabinets of most stores I shop. When all else fails, just blindly fallow, the cows credo...

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Only MS and Ninty are greedy...LMAO. Cows are really funny. They are really letting the great year PS3 is having get to there heads.

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="Aku101"]

No. Sony willingly invested billions of dollars into the PS3 and was losing money on each console sold to please the gamers by releasing the best games this gen exclusively on the PS3 because it can only be done on the ps3.

They are not greedy at all, plus their hardware doesn't break down so they actually bothered to make a good hardware architecture to make sure we gamers get the best product available even at Sony's expense

MS and Nintendo are greedy not Sony.

Aku101

ahahahahahahahaha.

I'm sorry. Take an economics class. Actually, just read an econ book. Actually, just look up the definition of capitalism on wikipedia. Sony is greedy. If they weren't they wouldn't be in business.

Sony cares about their customers first and foremost over money. Prove to me that Sony is greedy. They have been nothing but benevlolent to us gamers this gen.

I refuse to believe that anyone can think like this. It would simply wreck my sanity. Every single basic law of capitalism says that you are absolutely full of ****.
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but that was only because MS almost went bankrupt because they didn't have any AAAe's for the first 9 months of this year.

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That's it. I'm leaving this site until all these morons are banned. This comment is just...wow..:|..like really?

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#45 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

NGS 2 is not exclusive and why again should anyone care about review scores of the game doesn't sell?

MizFitAwesome

Because it's a far better tool to help one decide what to play (even better if one decides to actually read the reviews). Sales mostly represent how well a game is advertised or marketed. It means virtually nothing in terms of quality. If that were the case, Mercenaries 2 would've been nominated for GOTY. Also, this may come as a shock to you, but games don't need to achieve Halo numbers or higher in order to profit. So try again.

Actually renting is better, then again some of us prefer to use our own experiences with a game rather then rely on someone elses opinion to determine the games quality. Those of us that aren't blind followers...

That works too. However you go about it, reviews and renting are far better means of determining quality than sales.
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I'm sure that a multibillion dollar corporation keeps track of how exclusives are rated on the second-most popular forum of one of the most popular gaming sites. Wait until they release their 3Q Financial Reports with extensive details from MastaChief7200 on how Halo ODST is "The ****!!!111!!!"

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#47 MizFitAwesome
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[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

but that was only because MS almost went bankrupt because they didn't have any AAAe's for the first 9 months of this year.

ThePRAssassin

That's it. I'm leaving this site until all these morons are banned. This comment is just...wow..:|..like really?

He was being sarcastic...

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#48 hot114
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They are the doing the same thing as they did last gen. DROP IT LIKE A HOT POTATO

Atleast they can say they were not really trying ehen they finish this gen in last place.

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#49 MizFitAwesome
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[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"]Because it's a far better tool to help one decide what to play (even better if one decides to actually read the reviews). Sales mostly represent how well a game is advertised or marketed. It means virtually nothing in terms of quality. If that were the case, Mercenaries 2 would've been nominated for GOTY. Also, this may come as a shock to you, but games don't need to achieve Halo numbers or higher in order to profit. So try again.

nervmeister

Actually renting is better, then again some of us prefer to use our own experiences with a game rather then rely on someone elses opinion to determine the games quality. Those of us that aren't blind followers...

That works too. However you go about it, reviews and renting are far better means of determining quality than sales.

Nope, just renting. Unless I know the reviewer personally...

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#50 TIE_Elite_Pilot
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What M$ cares about and will always care about only is MONEY!

jakehouston88

Just like Sony. and every other smart corporation. Oh NOES!!!1!11111!