Does Ninty always make the best game of the gen?

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#51 bobbetybob
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Personally no, but in terms of review scores yes that is pretty much true. Personally last gens GOTG was Resident Evil 4 and this gen it's SMG or Fallout 3 or CoD4. For PS1/N64 I can't choose because I had terrible taste in games back then, I'd say my favourite game used to be either RE2 or Medal of Honor even though I never even completed either of them. So seems like Capcom is my game of the gen maker, they could keep it up if they made RE6 and it was awesome, or Dead Rising 2 is as amazing as 1 could have been if it weren't for some niggling flaws.
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#52 Shinobishyguy
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kinda yes. SMG is arguably the best game this gen...but there are others that are on par.

Either way they can still pull out a master piece here andthtere when they aren't working on casual crap.

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#53 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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They do hit the home run every generation, but more recently with great games on the other concoles it's hard to argu that they are best. From a critic standpoint shurely, but based on the posts in this thread, others have their prefernces.

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#54 Filthybastrd
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definitely no.........

Judging the 3 TC mentioned:

Metroid Prime was quite boring to me. Think I completed 25-50% of it and lost interest.

Zelda? Uhh, Actually that was at least a contender for best game of the gen.

SMG? Honestly, I think people were a bit too "OMG IT'S SUPER MARIO!!!!!!!ONEONEONE" about it. It's good. It's really good, but it has it's flaws.

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#55 jliebel
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They haven't released greatest of a gen since snes

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#56 dont-read-this
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No way in hell, there are always much better games.
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#57 pierst179
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That is a fair statement to make, but as usual it all depends on taste. I agree with you for the most part though because I think Donkey Kong Country 2 is the best SNES game.

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#58 Thunderdrone
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No way in hell, there are always much better games.dont-read-this
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#59 jhcho2
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I was just doing some quick thinking on this subject and realized, at the end of a gen is the top game always Nintendo made?

Some quick examples going backwards:

This gen= Super Mario Galaxy (so far)

Last gen= Metroid Prime (my opinion, many other ppl I've talked toand a few other web sites including IGN)

N64/PS1 gen= Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (don't really need to explain this one)

I could keep going backwards but I don't think its really necessary to make my point.......

I know it is 100% based on preference I was just curious to see how many gamers (from all 4 corners) would agree with me?

So what do ya think? If you dissagree with just 1 game click no and feel free to explain what game you thinkwon that gen (or is winning) and why?

kenakuma

Why is Super Mario Galaxy the best this gen? Just because you think so? It's neither the highest scoring nor even the best in gameplay. Sure, it won GOTY, but so did Oblivion and MGS4. Oblivion and MGS4 scored higher than Mario Galaxy here. You seem to have a pretty narrow definition of 'best games'. Your list are basically Nintendo exclusives.

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#60 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="kenakuma"]

I was just doing some quick thinking on this subject and realized, at the end of a gen is the top game always Nintendo made?

Some quick examples going backwards:

This gen= Super Mario Galaxy (so far)

Last gen= Metroid Prime (my opinion, many other ppl I've talked toand a few other web sites including IGN)

N64/PS1 gen= Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (don't really need to explain this one)

I could keep going backwards but I don't think its really necessary to make my point.......

I know it is 100% based on preference I was just curious to see how many gamers (from all 4 corners) would agree with me?

So what do ya think? If you dissagree with just 1 game click no and feel free to explain what game you thinkwon that gen (or is winning) and why?

jhcho2

Why is Super Mario Galaxy the best this gen? Just because you think so? It's neither the highest scoring nor even the best in gameplay. Sure, it won GOTY, but so did Oblivion and MGS4. Oblivion and MGS4 scored higher than Mario Galaxy here. You seem to have a pretty narrow definition of 'best games'. Your list are basically Nintendo exclusives.

Maybe you should double-read the OP.

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#61 dont-read-this
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[QUOTE="dont-read-this"]No way in hell, there are always much better games.Thunderdrone
Nice name

Thank you, I was first planning on "dont-look-at-this-chicken" and having a chicken as my avatar, but gamespot didn't let me.
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#62 Mau-Justice
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Galaxy best game this gen? It wasn't even the best game when it came out.

Bioshock
GTA4
MGS4

All of which easily take the throne. Get real. Last Gen it was either GTA or RE4, neither of which were made by Nintendo.

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#63 DoomZaW
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Nah, Best game of this generation goes to Konami's MGS4 if you ask me

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#64 EddieBGreen
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Last gen was SC on Dreamcast. Or Shenmue.

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#65 nintendog66
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Top Games on Gamerankings: - Zelda Ocarina of Time(97.63) - Super Mario Galaxy(97.28) - Super Mario World(96.70) - Metroid Prime(96.26) Yes, Nintendo has dominated 5 generations(3rd Gen being the Original Super Mario Bros) in a row as Game of the Generation. The scores speak for themselves.
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#66 Hexagon_777
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The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - highest rated game of the fifth generation

Metroid Prime - highest rated game of the sixth generation

Super Mario Galaxy - highest rated game of the seventh generation

Nintendo does always make the best game of every generation, or at least the highest rated game of every generation. They know their craft rather well. I commend them for it.

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#67 foxhound_fox
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Considering it is entirely opinion, I would disagree wholeheartedly... especially in the face of Shadow of the Colossus. Prime and Echoes were fantastic, but nothing, absolutely nothing tops Shadow of the Colossus.

And this gen so far, it is either Dead Rising, Mass Effect or Mirror's Edge. Galaxy to me is a big "meh." One of the biggest "mehs" I've ever encountered. I had more fun playing Sunshine.

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#68 Shafftehr
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No. I think they just make the games that, while still being spectacular, get the most nostalgic cushion from reviewers. They pretty much invented the GTA4 effect - where reviewers say "Well, it's GTA! It's just more of what we love and so big and overwhelming... As if it's not a perfect 10/9.5/9!" and they literally hype themselves into inflating the score. Don't get me wrong, Nintendo's good games are GOOD. But I get the distinct feeling that reviewers are in the habit of saying "Come on guys, it'z MARIO/ZELDA/METROID/whatever" and going at the games with a bit of rose tinting on their glasses, in part due to nostalgia, in part by giving the games free passes because of old convention (no voice acting, for instance - most games get blasted for it, Zelda gets a free pass because it's Zelda?). So, in short, no - I don't believe they make the best games in any generation. I believe they make some of the better games which are easily in the running for best, but it's been three gens since I looked at Nintendo games as being the definitive best in a gen. This gen is the one they're farthest from that mark, in my eyes, even with the stellar Mario Galaxy.
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#69 Zaibach
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iN THE PS1 N64 gen- MGS

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#70 Swift_Boss_A
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I disagree, Sony makes the best games and their first party titles have gotten better each generation. It's not that Ninty doesn't make great games it's just that most of their games don't appeal to me, opinion ofcourse. Sony's 1st party is diverse and just plain awesome, from Motorstorm Pacific Rift to Uncharted etc. I can't wait till GOW3 and Last Guardian :D

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#71 applefan1991  Moderator
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Im pretty sure the majority of people would say Metal Gear Solid 4 is game of this gen so far
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#72 kenakuma
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Hmmm, while its not my opinion heres how IGN has the top games from last gen listed:

1. Rome: Total War (PC)

2. ICO (PS2)

3. Burnout 3 (PS2)

4. Half Life 2 (PC)

5. Halo (XB)

I guess I can see why people would go with a list like this, I know a lot of my freinds would!

My top five last gen would look something like this:

1. Metroid Prime (GC)

2. Resident Evil 4 (GC)

3. Metal Gear Solid 3 (PS2)

4. Half Life 2 (PC)

5. Halo (PC)

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#73 fenwickhotmail
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I'd say since the N64 they havent made a spectacular game, so by default no.
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#74 Couth_
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No. They make some games among the best, but they are not THE best.. It's subject to opinion anyway
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#75 Shinobishyguy
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I had more fun playing Sunshine.foxhound_fox
you gotta be kidding me you had more fun cleaning up crap than galaxy?
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#76 Theguy56
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Subjective, though I will say that the games I enjoyed most from the other companies were all 3rd party. If Sony were like they were in the PS1 era, than it would actually be competition.

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#77 prsman
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Top Games on Gamerankings: - Zelda Ocarina of Time(97.63) - Super Mario Galaxy(97.28) - Super Mario World(96.70) - Metroid Prime(96.26) Yes, Nintendo has dominated 5 generations(3rd Gen being the Original Super Mario Bros) in a row as Game of the Generation. The scores speak for themselves.nintendog66
Um... we have opinions ya know. I don't care what reviewers say, because honestly i didn't really like Ocarina all that much... or really any of those... except Galaxy. While it is not GOTY in my eyes, it is still a good game
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[QUOTE="nintendog66"]Top Games on Gamerankings: - Zelda Ocarina of Time(97.63) - Super Mario Galaxy(97.28) - Super Mario World(96.70) - Metroid Prime(96.26) Yes, Nintendo has dominated 5 generations(3rd Gen being the Original Super Mario Bros) in a row as Game of the Generation. The scores speak for themselves.prsman
Um... we have opinions ya know. I don't care what reviewers say, because honestly i didn't really like Ocarina all that much... or really any of those... except Galaxy. While it is not GOTY in my eyes, it is still a good game

true, but this is SW. your own opinion means little here.... review scores apparently are the only things matter

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#79 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] I had more fun playing Sunshine.Shinobishyguy
you gotta be kidding me you had more fun cleaning up crap than galaxy?

Anything wrong with his opinion?

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#80 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"] I had more fun playing Sunshine.nintendoboy16

you gotta be kidding me you had more fun cleaning up crap than galaxy?

Anything wrong with his opinion?

I don't see how anyone could enjoy cleaning up crap with a water pack over exploring planets in outer space.

again I'm sensing a "hating on the game because it's on the wii" bandwagon going on here

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#81 foxhound_fox
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you gotta be kidding me you had more fun cleaning up crap than galaxy?Shinobishyguy

Actually, I did. Is there something wrong with that? We just went over this yesterday.

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#82 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] you gotta be kidding me you had more fun cleaning up crap than galaxy?foxhound_fox


Actually, I did. Is there something wrong with that?

whatever bro. Your entitled to your opinion..and I'm entitled to think it's ass backwards.

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#84 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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you gotta be kidding me you had more fun cleaning up crap than galaxy?Shinobishyguy
You do a lot more than just "cleaning crap" in SMS. >_>
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#85 Thunderdrone
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Considering it is entirely opinion, I would disagree wholeheartedly... especially in the face of Shadow of the Colossus. Prime and Echoes were fantastic, but nothing, absolutely nothing tops Shadow of the Colossus.

And this gen so far, it is either Dead Rising, Mass Effect or Mirror's Edge. Galaxy to me is a big "meh." One of the biggest "mehs" I've ever encountered. I had more fun playing Sunshine.

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#86 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] you gotta be kidding me you had more fun cleaning up crap than galaxy?IronBass
You do a lot more than just "cleaning crap" in SMS. >_>

even so there's a myriad of other complains I could come up with the game...but the limited setting, water pack gimmick, and having to clean up crap is just a few.

Lets just say that objectively...the game is inferior to SMG in almost every respect. *aside from difficulty and level size*

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#87 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Lets just say that objectively...Shinobishyguy
You can not say it objectively. You like it more or not. Subjectivity at its best.
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#88 foxhound_fox
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even so there's a myriad of other complains I could come up with the game...but the limited setting, water pack gimmick, and having to clean up crap is just a few.

Lets just say that objectively...the game is inferior to SMG in almost every respect. *aside from difficulty and level size*

Shinobishyguy


Without presenting a proper argument, its hard to claim anything "objectively." I've seen quite a lot of people who enjoy Sunshine more than Galaxy. And in terms of games, it is basically impossible to claim that something is "objectively better" than something else... considering "quality" is merely in the eye of the beholder. Since something you like isn't going to be "as good" as something you dislike.

And I'm pretty sure we've already addressed your opinion of my opinion. Both your opinion and my opinion are equally valid. At least I can admit that people who love Galaxy (while I hate it), aren't "ass backwards."

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#89 nintendoboy16
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For my opinion, Nintendo does not make the best game each gen overall. For their platforms, maybe, but not overall. Last gen went to either God of War, Halo, or Half-Life 2. This gen, it probably belongs to Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, or probably Galaxy. I know the best game of the N64/PS1 era belonged to Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

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#90 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]even so there's a myriad of other complains I could come up with the game...but the limited setting, water pack gimmick, and having to clean up crap is just a few.

Lets just say that objectively...the game is inferior to SMG in almost every respect. *aside from difficulty and level size*

foxhound_fox

Both your opinion and my opinion are equally valid

you know what screw it. let's just leave it at that.

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#91 blank33
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That is rather subjective, but there's no doubt they make great games.

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#92 omgimba
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I almost agree, close enough though.

Sure, Half Life beats anything they had that gen, but being number one for 4 gens and having a runner up (Oot) for one gen ain't to bad. Also Banjo Kazooie is my second runner up, Goldeneye my third and Super Mario 64 my fourth for that gen.

As for other gens SMB 3 is a no brainer for me. And the only thing I think really rivaled Zelda lttp is SM World, giving nintendo the two best games of that gen.The other gens are tougher though.. But the last two gens are much tougher, but I really loved SMG and MP was quite awesome (Eternal darkness ain't too bad either)

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#93 chaoz-king
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Not for me. I grew old of Mario and Zelda many many years ago.
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#94 fabz_95
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I agree, they always make one masterpiece every gen. However, this gen MGS4 comes pretty close.

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#95 KungfuKitten
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Yeah i think they always made my top 3 titles per gen or they were exclusive to their platforms. Quite amazing.

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#96 kenakuma
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As for Metroid Prime, I like that game alot but I can totally see how it wasn't the best last gen for alot of gamers.

Its my personal favorite for certain reasons but I can totally see HL2, Re4, MGS3 or halo topping it for many people!

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#97 randomwiiplayer
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I'd agree with that.

NES:SMB3

SNES:SMW

N64:OoT and Star Fox64

GCN:WW/MP

Wii: This part I can't agree with. Wii has some great games, but they don't compare to the PS3. They do beat the crap out of 360 games though.

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#98 kenakuma
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I'd agree with that.

NES:SMB3

SNES:SMW

N64:OoT and Star Fox64

GCN:WW/MP

Wii: This part I can't agree with. Wii has some great games, but they don't compare to the PS3. They do beat the crap out of 360 games though.

randomwiiplayer

LBP and MGS4 are mind blowing games imo!

I dont own a PS3 but I own those two games! Their just to ggod!

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#99 PatchMaster
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Well it's certainly a matter of opinion/taste, but they certainly have a stronger case than any other one dev/publisher.

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#100 W1ckedGo0se
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I'd say the best game this Gen is Killzone 2, Last Gen was Final Fantasy 12 (I really liked it), and PS1 gen was Final Fantasy 7... In the end its really all opinion, but I have not though Nintendo had the best game in a gen sense SNES (Not saying there games this gen are bad, but I don't think there top of the line)