Does Sony have the best 1st party?

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#101 jaydan
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@samfisher56 said:
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Sonys first party destroys Nintendos every day of the week. Its not even close. Once Sony actually started caring about their first party studios and putting them in place, they have set the standards in the industry. Call me when Nintendo make games like Gran Turismo, Uncharted and Last of Us, God of War. Nintendo are INCAPABLE of making such masterpieces because they dont have Sonys talent. Hell, I even think that Microsoft have a better first party since they made a revolutionary game like Halo that basically changed consoles forever. Nintendo recycles the same joke kiddy games for 50 years and get a pass from fanboys every time lol. They only sell well because they are literally the only games on their irrelevant consoles lol.

lol

Double lol.

@samfisher56 enjoy your revolutionary 8 hour games.

Enjoy your eternally rehashed kiddy garabge from 50 years ago lol.

That old game that keeps getting rehashed for 50 years now Xenoblade Chronicles I'll definitely enjoy lol

ENJOY HEAVY RAIN IN ALL 5 HOURS IT TAKES TO BEAT

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#102 ConanTheStoner
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@jaydan said:

ENJOY HEAVY RAIN IN ALL 5 HOURS IT TAKES TO BEAT WATCH

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#103 jaydan
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@jaydan said:

ENJOY HEAVY RAIN IN ALL 5 HOURS IT TAKES TO BEAT WATCH

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#104 darkangel115
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@SolidGame_basic said:

Naught Dog (Uncharted, Last of Us), Guerilla Games (Killzone, Horizon) Santa Monica studio (God of War). Japan Studio (Trico), Sucker Punch (inFAMOUS), Sony Bend (Days Gone), Polyphony Digital (Gran Turismo), Media Molecule (Little Big Planet, Dreams), San Diego Studio (MLB The Show).

I would say Nintendo does platformers really well. And Zelda goes unmatched. But overall, Sony has the best portfolio. More diverse library and they take more risk. What say you, SW?

not at all. unless your a big fan of niche Japanese games.

ND i get (not a fan personally but i get it) KZ was a terrible series, (I'm hyped to play horizon tonight though), God of war is amazing, JS sucks, SP i decent at best, Sony Bend sucks, GT sucks now, MM sucks, SSD sucks.

plus most of these devs can't put out games in any normal timeline. GT gets delayed all the time, SSM hasn't released a game in 4 years and counting. SSD is a yearly MLB game.

Horizon looks like the only good thing Sony put out this gen in my opinion so far.

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#105  Edited By with_teeth26
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well yea, since I'm an adult and frankly have never given a shit about Nintendo. Maybe If I was 10 it'd be different.

Sony's first party is kinda homogenous though, everything is a variation on third person action games.

MS have some quality games but they desperately need some new IPs

EDIT: thats another thing I don't get, everyone shits on MS for relying on the same IPs but somehow its fine when Nintendo does this because... reasons

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#106 ConanTheStoner
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@with_teeth26 said:

well yea, since I'm an adult and frankly have never given a shit about Nintendo. Maybe If I was 10 it'd be different.

This seems beneath you tbh. Not liking Nintendos stuff, cool whatever. But the "adult" "maybe if I was 10".... ok lol.

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EDIT: thats another thing I don't get, everyone shits on MS for relying on the same IPs but somehow its fine when Nintendo does this because... reasons

Well on the one hand, they do get shit on for that plenty. It's been an ongoing vocal criticism for years, Nintendo doesn't get a free pass from gamers on this.

On the other hand, they're not exactly comparable to MS in this respect. Nintendo has a significantly larger stable of IPs than MS, especially if we're talking IPs that are still actively being put to use. They cover a larger genre variety as well, they're actually more in line with Sony in this respect. Furthermore, Nintendo does a better job of keeping their IPs fresh. Some of them do get a bit samey and stagnant, sure, but often times you're not getting sequels that feel like they could have been mods to a previous title.

Anyways, not saying Nintendo shouldn't be more creative and branch out further, they absolutely should. And I'm certainly not saying they're perfect, but in this tallest midget contest they do come out smelling like roses, and they're nowhere near MS's level of IP suffocation.

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#107 with_teeth26
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@with_teeth26 said:

well yea, since I'm an adult and frankly have never given a shit about Nintendo. Maybe If I was 10 it'd be different.

This seems beneath you tbh. Not liking Nintendos stuff, cool whatever. But the "adult" "maybe if I was 10".... ok lol.

@with_teeth26 said:

EDIT: thats another thing I don't get, everyone shits on MS for relying on the same IPs but somehow its fine when Nintendo does this because... reasons

Well on the one hand, they do get shit on for that plenty. It's been an ongoing vocal criticism for years, Nintendo doesn't get a free pass from gamers on this.

On the other hand, they're not exactly comparable to MS in this respect. Nintendo has a significantly larger stable of IPs than MS, especially if we're talking IPs that are still actively being put to use. They cover a larger genre variety as well, they're actually more in line with Sony in this respect. Furthermore, Nintendo does a better job of keeping their IPs fresh. Some of them do get a bit samey and stagnant, sure, but often times you're not getting sequels that feel like they could have been mods to a previous title.

Anyways, not saying Nintendo shouldn't be more creative and branch out further, they absolutely should. And I'm certainly not saying they're perfect, but in this tallest midget contest they do come out smelling like roses, and they're nowhere near MS's level of IP suffocation.

LOL, yea not normally my style but i'm bored at work and decided to be a dick for a change to try and get some amusing responses, didn't really pan out.

I really don't have strong feelings about Nintendo one way or the other (or any of the first party lineups for that matter).

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#108  Edited By ConanTheStoner
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@with_teeth26 said:

LOL, yea not normally my style but i'm bored at work and decided to be a dick for a change to try and get some amusing responses, didn't really pan out.

Yeah, that makes sense lol. I do that shit sometimes too, just seemed outta character for you is all. Didn't mean to cramp your trolling style haha.

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#109 Quicksilver128
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Honestly id say yes. Lots of people will think im a dumb cow for saying it but its one of the reasons why i became a fanboy of the PS brand. They have a much more diverse lineup of exclusives. However Nintendo has one of my favorite franchises of all time(Zelda) and there is always an impeccable quality to those games. I also still enjoy Mario and the SSB series.

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#110  Edited By Blazed
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@ConanTheStoner said:
@Blazed said:

I'm mostly burned out on Nintendo franchises.

Word, can't knock you for that. On the flip side though, nine times out of ten I'll take stagnant and great over fresh and mediocre.

And at least with Nintendo, while you may tire of the IP, they do a pretty great job at reinventing or putting significant twists on some of their major franchises. No two Zeldas are really the same. Ditto the main Mario platformers (NSMB got tired though, and SMG2 just being a much greater SMG1). Ditto Metroid. I'd love to see Nintendos top studios flex their muscle on some new IPs, but at least we still get very well designed games from them.

And really, let's look at Sonys top stuff. Bum ass third person shooters? Check. Bum ass first person shooters? Check. Bum ass action adventure game / beat em up? Check. Bum ass adventure games getting a free pass under the banner of "cinematic experience"? Check. Super bum ass platformer that gets apologized for because it has a slightly less bum ass level editor? Check.

Not exactly original stuff. Just bum versions of existing genres with different coats of paint. Team Ico, when they release a game, release some cool unique stuff. GT used to be top tier, they've been dethroned, but they're still a force in the genre.

But the vast majority of Sony stuff isn't original in gameplay, only in IP. And much of it is mediocrity that gets apologized for because of presentation value.

Cool story bro. What games can I play like Motorstorm, TLOU , TLG, God War etc. on Xbox?

Nintendeno hasn't been "orignal" since the N64 and Camecube. They even copied LBP. LOL Dreams has already brought the concepr to a whole new level and it has quality platforming too but let's give Nintendo props for the same old franchises with a "twist." lol

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#111 StormyJoe
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@ConanTheStoner: Thanks, man.

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#112 bmanva
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It does currently. Nintendo has really gone to shit in recent years.