Does Steam not have a quality check system?

@mr_huggles_dog

I think this issue is countered by the steam refunds and bad games being taken down, on top of having far high scoring games across more genres than any other system.

GregK and KevinV both said PC has higher standards, and has much less magazine padding at MC, yet still has more high scoring titles than any console each gen.

I don't?

As usual masterfull reasoning in full effect, Some of these SW guys are without a doubt the sharpest tools in the box....... :P

Something to aspire to.....

It does, it´s called common sense. The problem is you don´t have it.

Steam quality control >>>> PSN and XBOX Live

You have a refund system, user reviews and a dedicated forum one click away. You must be brain dead to make a bad purchase on Steam.

PSN in contrast is painfully slow to navigate, barely provides any screenshots, lacks user review system and constantly loses your credit card information to hackers.

This is why I hate pc gaming. 99% of what releases on pc is some low quality crap developed in a garage. And some idiot hermit goes and writes a blog review giving a game a high score and these other hermits believe it and chalk it up on their pathetic list of "good" pc games.

the jelly is strong with this one

ps4hasnogames posts in a nutshell

Well, this thread was undermined fairly quickly.

+infinity

There are plenty of ways to get around this. Look into games before you buy them. Steam has a review system and normally these bad games will have mostly negative reviews. There's also a refund system in place so that if you do buy something like this you can get your money back. Also, the biggest factor of all, common sense, don't just throw your money at any old game with a well written synopsis.

Also, I notice you haven't actually replied to anyone who's given you a proper answer, funny that, I wonder why that is?

/sarcasm

thread backfire lel

What sort of quality control do Sony apply during "patch certifications"?

8 patches later and still broken

B/c you only thought about that fact in this thread and don't know anything about me and how I reply to all types of replies in other threads?

This isn't a conspiracy tin foil hat boy.

The first time I checked back in the thread there were a few replies that were well mannered then the bitches of the "PS4 hate" forum community had to come in here and fucking whine and compare Sony like a bunch of cry babies.

Seriously....some of you act so smug and "mature" for acting like this is fucking high school popularity contest.

I notice you didn't even try to reply to the main part of my post, further proving my point.

If you don't like how people act here, then don't post instead of throwing a childish fit all the time

Why do you feel the need to bring me in to this? This seems like a trend

@MonsieurX said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

This is why I hate pc gaming. 99% of what releases on pc is some low quality crap developed in a garage. And some idiot hermit goes and writes a blog review giving a game a high score and these other hermits believe it and chalk it up on their pathetic list of "good" pc games.

ps4hasnogames posts in a nutshell

U know I'm right. theres no way in hell nintendo would ever release a piece of shit glitchy low quality unfinished game like pc does on steam on a daily basis.

@ps4hasnogames said:

@lostrib said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

This is why I hate pc gaming. 99% of what releases on pc is some low quality crap developed in a garage. And some idiot hermit goes and writes a blog review giving a game a high score and these other hermits believe it and chalk it up on their pathetic list of "good" pc games.

the jelly is strong with this one

@MonsieurX said:

@ps4hasnogames said:

This is why I hate pc gaming. 99% of what releases on pc is some low quality crap developed in a garage. And some idiot hermit goes and writes a blog review giving a game a high score and these other hermits believe it and chalk it up on their pathetic list of "good" pc games.

ps4hasnogames posts in a nutshell

U know I'm right. theres no way in hell nintendo would ever release a piece of shit glitchy low quality unfinished game like pc does on steam on a daily basis.

herp derp

@ps4hasnogames: Broken record much?

@soulitane: Notice how lostrib said with others "it was the way they were posting" sneakingly not to bring notice to the fact I called other childish....and then he turns around and says I act childish.

Yeah...we're all a bunch of fucking innocents here.

Notice how you already don't respect my thread since you decided that I was being confrontational?

Why would I care what you post?

I dont think we can blame steam for this. Its very hard to be accessible to all devs, yet maintain strict quality control. There are so many games on steam that it would be very hard to monitor everything. Yes, crap games like this fall through the cracks, but the honest to God truth is that no one else has a system that even comes close matching steam.

A few? I swear, half of the RPGs that land on Steam look like they were made with RPG Maker 95...

This is amusing. I'm here if you need a shoulder to further cry on but at this point you're probably all out of tears.

why would i respect your thread if it is childish and overly confrontational?

You have an interesting idea of what it means to be "complete." Godzilla for the PS4 has a less-than-an-hour long single player where every level is the exact same objective, laggy, matchmakingless multiplayer, and no attempt to balance any function of the game in any way. It's only "complete" in the sense that the game probably won't crash and brick your console. However by comparison, even to a lot of mediocre 60 dollar games, it is absolutely not complete, and by extension could probably be considered a scam.

There's also Raven's Cry which will probably be the worst reviewed game this year at gamespot, which released on most major platforms, including PC, Xbox, and PS.

But also all 3 of these titles pale in comparison to some of the worst of the worst that have made their way onto every platform throughout the years.

Point is, shitty and scummy games will happen. No company is free from it. Steam is more vulnerable because of their developer friendly approach, but that hardly means they are the only one's who will let bad games slide every now and then. The real difference between Steam and anyone else is that Valve is quick to jump on community feedback and rectify the issues people have.

@EducatingU_PCMR said:

thread backfire lel

What sort of quality control do Sony apply during "patch certifications"?

8 patches later and still broken

Lol. No wonder they changed 2013 renderer.

I remember the day when people researched a game before they bought it and didn't complain when they were served a shit sandwich because they knew what they were getting themselves into.

If anything, I commend these swindlers for taking advantage of stupid people.

Also... there are plenty of safeguards in place on Steam for the less-than-prepared if they cared to look.

• User reviews
• Critic score
• Feature list
• Community feedback/help forums
• Gameplay images/videos
• Refund system

Seriously, if you can't figure out if a game is what you want before buying, you deserve to lose your money.

Two things.

1. This thread has never been done before, ever. For sure. And I definitely didn't wonder when I saw the title whether an old thread on the EXACT SAME TOPIC had been resurrected.

2. Steam should have a link to meticritic and allow user reviews. Maybe some forums too. I thought Steam had all this, but clearly I was mistaken, or THIS THREAD WOULDN'T F%@KING EXIST.

You said?

@MonsieurX said:

@Cobra_nVidia said:

Two things.

1. This thread has never been done before, ever. For sure. And I definitely didn't wonder when I saw the title whether an old thread on the EXACT SAME TOPIC had been resurrected.

2. Steam should have a link to meticritic and allow user reviews. Maybe some forums too. I thought Steam had all this, but clearly I was mistaken, or THIS THREAD WOULDN'T F%@KING EXIST.

You said?

Even worse, look in the bottom right, Metacritic... That of which has been on the platform for like 8 years... This is what I'm talking about when I say you can't just buy a fucking PC and call yourself a PC gamer, you have to actually know things, it's infuriating listening to these trend followers.

"Oh I'm a PC gamer, look at me, I bought an HP and put a 750Ti in it, I'm one of you guys now!"

what the hell...are you really a pc gamer?

I think he's trolling. At least..., I hope so.

Because console games never release without problems?

MCC, Drive Club, USF4 (PS4), people keep banging on about Witcher 3 on PS4. Xbox One games have been update after update after update, and the updates a fuckin huge, like multiple gigabytes. Now there's day one updates as well.

Higher standards my ass. It's a nostalgic notion. This gen relies on the internet more than ever before. Developers are more than happy to release games on them and fix them later.

Yeah consoles this gen is very much in need of patching for most games but it is not as bad like the game in this thread. PC is more dev friendly so while you can get very amazing games you can also get games much worse than on consoles.

Jeepers, I didn't think I could make it more obvious ^_^

"Are you really a PC gamer?"

lol...I certainly didn't see that question getting asked of me!

Steam can't decide if it wants a free, open market or not and waivers on the edge constantly. That's what is silly about it.

lol, I figured you were joking. :P

i just realized you're trolling when i enabled sigs :p

It's a mess. That's why I check the forums and other review sites before making a purchase. It is ugly to look at at times.

Let's see...

Game got pulled from steam, valve gave out refunds regardless of playtime, dev's little scam backfired big time, and ofc Huggles can't make a thread without crying

Looks like the status quo continues (with the improvement of the steam refund system of course)

Why does this sound like Crnlaer's old same exact argument?

Outside of the steamboxes, Steam doesn't manufacture PCs and they're hardly the representative of PC gaming in the way that the parent companies of console are, so I guess the argument is that an online seller of digital goods doesn't do enough curation?

When has this same argument ever been legitimate when applied against brick and mortar games retailers?

"I wouldn't have bought the Boreder 1886 if fucking Wal-Mart did their job and refused to carry it, or at least warned me that it's a piece of shit."

Oh wait, that's right, never...

"Buu. bu, but ... So many titles. Steam should do my work for me because I'm a lazy moron incapable of using YouTube or doing any pre-purchase research. I also want to ignore that Steam now offers refunds because it's inconveniences my 'argument.'"

You said this:

And this temper tantrum was the next post:

Yeah, except that's not a temper tantrum.

That's an illustration of the pointlessness of your complaint; especially in light of the return policy.

I'm not saying that you are that moron, but if you are that lazy and incompetent when it comes to looking into something before purchasing it, all while expecting a retailer to coddle you, then...