Does the 360 have anything that matches the animaton of Killzone 2 or Drake?

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#1 nnavidson
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I know Lems like to post their screenshots but these two games seem to blow away the competition in terms of movement and animation.

Oh, added in Heavenly Sword too.

Don't waste your time saying they don't look that great without a link to am online video.

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#2 NFJSupreme
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COD4 has better animation. Thats multi-platform so...

Anyway enough about killzone someon close this. It was an amazing trailer and all but really its not like its Crysis.

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#3 tidus222
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as far as animations i think that was the weakest graphical point of gears of war... the blood looked stupid and had black outliens around it.....

but killzone 2 looks to have a weakness as well (the textures) not quite as good as gears IMO

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#4 nnavidson
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COD4 has better animation. Thats multi-platform so...

Anyway enough about killzone someon close this. It was an amazing trailer and all but really its not like its Crysis.

NFJSupreme

It's just not Killzone 2 though. Three games kind of seem like trend.

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#5 nnavidson
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as far as animations i think that was the weakest graphical point of gears of war... the blood looked stupid and had black outliens around it.....

but killzone 2 looks to have a weakness as well (the textures) not quite as good as gears IMO

tidus222

I think Gears would actually beat Killzone 2 in a screenshot fight but as soon as you see them moving it's a different story.

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#6 colmusterd28
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Ugh... the Killzone trailer was o.k. it wasn't spectacular.... Please stop with these threads..... do better than Gears and we'll talk.
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#7 Gamersince81
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NOOOOOO! Pre Pre Dev Killzone2 doesnt have much competition, which is sad actually. I can see some mishaps with Killzone, but it still blows everything else ive seenaway as far asFPS are concerned. Havent seen Drake, but ill look it up!

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#8 Runningflame570
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Killzone 2 doesn't exactly have the greatest animation IMO, Uncharted is on an entirely different level.
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#9 hongkingkong
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Hmm have you seen Mass Effect yet?
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#11 tidus222
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Ugh... the Killzone trailer was o.k. it wasn't spectacular.... Please stop with these threads..... do better than Gears and we'll talk.
colmusterd28

actually the trailer was amazing, the guys move realistically

most impressive game coming out IMO

look at the joke sommersaults, and roadie run in gears of war compared to killzone movements..

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#12 NFJSupreme
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[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

COD4 has better animation. Thats multi-platform so...

Anyway enough about killzone someon close this. It was an amazing trailer and all but really its not like its Crysis.

nnavidson

It's just not Killzone 2 though. Three games kind of seem like trend.

what part of COD4 has better animation don't you understand? And that is a multi-plat game. Animation has more to do with developer talant than console hardware. I don't get the point of your thread other than OMG Killzone is the first real nextgen game on PS3.

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#13 usule
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Call of duty 4 had the best animation... And if it's like his predecessor, it will be better on 360...Having said that, killzone 2 looks amazing and makes me wonder how I'll convince my wife to let me get a ps3 for christmas...sigh
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#14 terdoo
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Killzone doesent even look that mind blowing.The textures arent good at all.And Gears had great animation.
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#15 nnavidson
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Hmm have you seen Mass Effect yet?hongkingkong

Yeah it looks awesome, but nothing I've seen has made it look "fluid". Especially the non-conversation parts.

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#16 nnavidson
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Killzone doesent even look that mind blowing.The textures arent good at all.And Gears had great animation.terdoo

It did? Do you have a link to some sort of video that shows that?

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#17 dreamdude
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No it does not , Kz2 in pre alpha stage Brutally beated the 360 graphically which was already maxed out with GEOW JoJoJO

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#18 terdoo
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[QUOTE="terdoo"]Killzone doesent even look that mind blowing.The textures arent good at all.And Gears had great animation.nnavidson

It did? Do you have a link to some sort of video that shows that?

Your kidding rght?Just go seach the game on this site.

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#19 nnavidson
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[QUOTE="nnavidson"]

[QUOTE="terdoo"]Killzone doesent even look that mind blowing.The textures arent good at all.And Gears had great animation.terdoo

It did? Do you have a link to some sort of video that shows that?

Your kidding rght?Just go seach the game on this site.

I played a lot of Gears online... never got too far in the multiplayer so maybe I'm off, but it all looked like the same animations repeated throughout.

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#20 S1xSh0t
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uggh another hypezone thread
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#22 Mordred19
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in terms of fluid in-game animations, Killzone 2 looked pretty good, even though Drake has it beaten out in that department. Together, though, they pretty much move better than any games on the other platforms. Both are Sony exclusive, so there's a Sony win.

Honestly, Gears had standard animations: run, duck, throw grenade, fall over dead with a somersault. They all felt very canned and artificial.

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assassin's creedakif22

Multiplat that might end up lookin' better on the Ps3

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#24 TNT_Slug
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NOOOOOO! Pre Pre Dev Killzone2 doesnt have much competition, which is sad actually. I can see some mishaps with Killzone, but it still blows everything else ive seenaway as far asFPS are concerned. Havent seen Drake, but ill look it up!

Gamersince81
Where do all these retarded claims about Killzone 2 not even being in alpha come from. If it was pre-alpha, it wouldn't be playable. :?
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#25 EvilZero86
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Ugh... the Killzone trailer was o.k. it wasn't spectacular.... Please stop with these threads..... do better than Gears and we'll talk.
colmusterd28

lol, ya gotta be kidden....you don't have to be that much of fanboy....sheesh.

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#26 Mandingo101
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[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

NOOOOOO! Pre Pre Dev Killzone2 doesnt have much competition, which is sad actually. I can see some mishaps with Killzone, but it still blows everything else ive seenaway as far asFPS are concerned. Havent seen Drake, but ill look it up!

TNT_Slug
Where do all these retarded claims about Killzone 2 not even being in alpha come from. If it was pre-alpha, it wouldn't be playable. :?

it came straight from the devs mouth, im sure though, you know much more about deving than they do right ?

pfff fanboys...
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#27 STABW0UND
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I love how you argue about games that arnt even out yet. :roll:
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#28 Big_T-Mac
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animation wise, in kz2 those 2 guys in a row getting hosed with bullets was pretty sweet, but texture and poly wise its not even at halo 3 level yet. theyve still got work to do.

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#29 BillGates_Money
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wait til the game comes out
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animation wise, in kz2 those 2 guys in a row getting hosed with bullets was pretty sweet, but texture and poly wise its not even at halo 3 level yet. theyve still got work to do.Big_T-Mac

poly wise it surpasses halo, textures is better on halo right now IMO, it has more colors, but they got rid of the bump mapping on the chief maybe for ram reasons, had to dedicate more to the cpu prolly which i can understand. but KZ2 has much time to improve the textures.


i will buy both though, they are different type of games going for different **** and are on opposite ends of the FPS spectrum
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#32 Mandingo101
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why does gamespot bleep out the word st.yle ?
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#33 Big_T-Mac
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[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]

animation wise, in kz2 those 2 guys in a row getting hosed with bullets was pretty sweet, but texture and poly wise its not even at halo 3 level yet. theyve still got work to do.Mandingo101

poly wise it surpasses halo, textures is better on halo right now IMO, it has more colors, but they got rid of the bump mapping on the chief maybe for ram reasons, had to dedicate more to the cpu prolly which i can understand. but KZ2 has much time to improve the textures.


i will buy both though, they are different type of games going for different **** and are on opposite ends of the FPS spectrum

not u again. first off, they didnt remove any bump mapping, they changed it. he went from having a glossy concrete finish to a more metal armor finish. the bump mappings still there, dont kid urself into thinking otherwise.

poly wise is alot harder to prove either way, but all of the kz2 screens show nothing but hard lines, whereas h3 has shown a wider variety of smooth and bigger environments. this is why i find ur opinion of colors confusing. in ever in-game shot from the trailer theres practically 2 colors, gray and orange. in the h3 trailer u've seen a huge number of environments from indoors, desert, jungle, snowcovered areas, cliffs and rocky terrains, to beaches and etc, etc, etc.

just look at the shots:

best kz2 screenshot (given theres only 4 to choose from, but still)

a halo 3 shot.

saying the textures are even comparable is insane.

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#34 Mandingo101
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"]

animation wise, in kz2 those 2 guys in a row getting hosed with bullets was pretty sweet, but texture and poly wise its not even at halo 3 level yet. theyve still got work to do.Big_T-Mac

poly wise it surpasses halo, textures is better on halo right now IMO, it has more colors, but they got rid of the bump mapping on the chief maybe for ram reasons, had to dedicate more to the cpu prolly which i can understand. but KZ2 has much time to improve the textures.


i will buy both though, they are different type of games going for different **** and are on opposite ends of the FPS spectrum

not u again. first off, they didnt remove any bump mapping, they changed it. he went from having a glossy concrete finish to a more metal armor finish. the bump mappings still there, dont kid urself into thinking otherwise.

poly wise is alot harder to prove either way, but all of the kz2 screens show nothing but hard lines, whereas h3 has shown a wider variety of smooth and bigger environments. this is why i find ur opinion of colors confusing. in ever in-game shot from the trailer theres practically 2 colors, gray and orange. in the h3 trailer u've seen a huge number of environments from indoors, desert, jungle, snowcovered areas, cliffs and rocky terrains, to beaches and etc, etc, etc.

just look at the shots:

best kz2 screenshot (given theres only 4 to choose from, but still)

a halo 3 shot.

saying the textures are even comparable is insane.

wow, nice try fanboy

1. i said the textures on halo were better, so i dont know what the hell you are blabbering about. then again, take into account halo is coming out in a few months here and is almost done, KZ2 is coming out next year and is in pre alpha(straight from the dev's mouth) so like i said, textures will improve.

2.maybe you havent been reading all the impressions from most sites, ign, kotaku, g4, all were thouroughly amazed, i like how u say you picked out the best picture, and that there are only 4, when there is entire gameplay videos out now. and the game looks much better in motion, and again it is still in pre alpha. ign said they thought it wasnt real, and even kotaku who hate on sony all the time were impressed and i saw the main guy on 4 right now say sony won e3 and killzone blew him away.

all i hear from you is bitter lemming tears.:lol:


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#35 Mandingo101
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"but teh single player will look 10x better"

"teh KZ wont live up to teh trailor!11"

WRONG
WRONG

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/734/734817/img_3585253.html

k thx bai
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#37 Ragashahs
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in it's pre pre alpha stage still a minimum of 6 months left of deve time and it looks amazing? can't wait to see the final product
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#38 sinseers
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Help...I need some help...could somebody PLEASE show me what exactly is so mindlblowing about Drakke's animations? Cuz I'm still scratchin my head on that one. I'm tryin hard to be objective but I just do see it. IMO the character runs kinda funny...kinda reminds me of the runing animation in the first Syphon Filter i.e. the funny swaying left and right while they run. I know the effect that was trying to be conveyed but I still dont think they quite got it right yet. Feel free to enlighten me on the other aspects.......
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#39 deathtrap90
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"but teh single player will look 10x better"

"teh KZ wont live up to teh trailor!11"

WRONG
WRONG

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/734/734817/img_3585253.html

k thx baiMandingo101

Look a few posts up and see a great Halo 3 shot,or are the fanboy goggles to tight ?

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#40 LosDaddie
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Drake is nothing special. I've watched the trailer at least 5x on my PS3.

KZ2 does look great. Animation-wise, I think it's some of the best we've seen.

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#41 Rob2223
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Halo 3 will be a way better game than killzone 2. and uncharted looks like tomb raider MAN EDITION!!!
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#42 UssjTrunks
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Killzone looks like crap, I don't see why everyone is hyping it. The framrate blows, and the graphics are as mediocre as they get.Animation doesn't count for anything if everything else about the game sucks.
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#44 Runningflame570
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Help...I need some help...could somebody PLEASE show me what exactly is so mindlblowing about Drakke's animations? Cuz I'm still scratchin my head on that one. I'm tryin hard to be objective but I just do see it. IMO the character runs kinda funny...kinda reminds me of the runing animation in the first Syphon Filter i.e. the funny swaying left and right while they run. I know the effect that was trying to be conveyed but I still dont think they quite got it right yet. Feel free to enlighten me on the other aspects.......sinseers

It looks funny because Drake's animations aren't canned, they are dynamic and they can combine into a nearly incomprehensible number of distinct animations. The hooplah about Drake's animation is the aforementioned dynamism and also the sheer number (over 3,000 by release).

Some things that aren't mentioned as often though are for instance the balance..Drake doesn't have superhuman endurance and he certainly can't stop immediately if hes in a full sprint. Its this unique take on animation that makes Drake so hyped in that respect.

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#45 TNT_Slug
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[QUOTE="TNT_Slug"][QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

NOOOOOO! Pre Pre Dev Killzone2 doesnt have much competition, which is sad actually. I can see some mishaps with Killzone, but it still blows everything else ive seenaway as far asFPS are concerned. Havent seen Drake, but ill look it up!

Mandingo101

Where do all these retarded claims about Killzone 2 not even being in alpha come from. If it was pre-alpha, it wouldn't be playable. :?

it came straight from the devs mouth, im sure though, you know much more about deving than they do right ?

pfff fanboys...

Yeah, because Guerrilla/Sony have never talked crap and blatantly lied about this game before...

If the game has a playable build, it's not in "pre-alpha". Period.

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#46 _AsasN_
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COD4 has better animation. Thats multi-platform so...

Anyway enough about killzone someon close this. It was an amazing trailer and all but really its not like its Crysis.

NFJSupreme


No, it doesn't. The animation in Drake's Fortune are currently second to none. Assassin's Creed will have better animations than CoD 4.
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#47 _AsasN_
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Killzone looks like crap, I don't see why everyone is hyping it. The framrate blows, and the graphics are as mediocre as they get.Animation doesn't count for anything if everything else about the game sucks.UssjTrunks


Worst excuse for post E3 damage control I've seen yet. You're denial is pretty sad.
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#48 _AsasN_
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"][QUOTE="TNT_Slug"][QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

NOOOOOO! Pre Pre Dev Killzone2 doesnt have much competition, which is sad actually. I can see some mishaps with Killzone, but it still blows everything else ive seenaway as far asFPS are concerned. Havent seen Drake, but ill look it up!

TNT_Slug

Where do all these retarded claims about Killzone 2 not even being in alpha come from. If it was pre-alpha, it wouldn't be playable. :?

it came straight from the devs mouth, im sure though, you know much more about deving than they do right ?

pfff fanboys...

Yeah, because Guerrilla/Sony have never talked crap and blatantly lied about this game before...

If the game has a playable build, it's not in "pre-alpha". Period.



Who gives a **** It's still not finished and already looks better than any other console game out there. There's plenty of time for improvement/polish.

Anyone who doesn't find the Killzone 2 trailer technically impressive has some serious denial issues.
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#49 Samerzz
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:roll: Cows are so silly...Doesnt even look like they are useing HDR, also the shadows and textures look weak....There def. is some king of filter in that game on the guns. It looks blurry to give it a more real look...I think thats the only thing that impressed me.
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#50 djord02
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I'm happy to see a playable version of Killzone 2. There are aspects of the game that look good, like the ragdoll physics, but it also seemed like enemies kind of stand there and get shot for a second or two before their bodies start reacting to the bullets. Maybe it was a problem with the video feed I was watching of the Killzone presentation, but I couldn't help but think it looked weird how the enemies would get shot for a couple seconds before reacting or stumbling backwards. Other than that, the game looked crisp and interesting, though a bit drab colorwise.

I was a little more impressed with what I saw in the Halo 3 single-player demonstration, not in terms of graphics, but in terms of the scale of gameplay. The idea of Halo's huge vehicular battles mixed in with FPS gameplay appeals to me more at this point, but Killzone could be a step in the right direction for Sony. It looks better than Resistance, even though the weapons look a little more generic.