Does the lack of included headsets hinder the PS3s online commnity?

i was thinking of getting a ps3 (mainly for blu ray players), but then it struck me awhile ago taht buying a new PS3 does not come with a headset, when compared to the 360 (the other main console for online play), headsets are bundled with a lot ff stuff makknng for some overpriced acesories.

so taht made me think: how is ps3 to compete with 360's online when buying the ps3 does not come with a headset bundled inside? i mean really, online chat is almost a requirement to build a strong gaming community. chat with your friends, etc, discuss strategies and more. how can the ps3 ship w/o an included headset?

another issue is that many ps3 games do not support headset either, while the 360 version does. i cant think of any examples off the top of my head at the moment, but there are several. ps3 version does not support voice chat at all while 360 does totaally.

so thats what i've been thinking about when i look at ps3. how is it supposed to build a strong online community when buying the ps3 does not include a headset?

[btw, if newer ps3s do include a headset, then im talking about the prev versions]

Bluetooth technology is much cheaper than it was 3 years ago, but not enough for them to include a Bluetooth Headset in every console iis my guess.

Yes it does, I mean why bother putting one in the box that does everything? Or a remote? Anyways, headsets should be standard like 360 has been doing since launch.

Bluetooth technology is much cheaper than it was 3 years ago, but not enough for them to include a Bluetooth Headset in every console iis my guess.

bez2083

i was thinking now that time's passed, they should include soemthing, even if it's cheap

meh. I just had a one or two lying around. Plus warhawk comes with one, and everyone should get warhawk

No. If people want headsets they can buy them easily enough. I have a headset but i hardly use it. I usually mute everyone whenever i play MP games anyway.

meh. I just had a one or two lying around. Plus warhawk comes with one, and everyone should get warhawk

VendettaRed07

I'm not much into those type of games. Even a free wired one should be standard for all their systems.

The fact that it's not standard indeed hinders it.

I think sony's official PS3 headset cost $50.

they SHOULD bundle a headset, but they don't because i imagine they make more money selling it separately.

but as far as the online community goes, you take the good with the bad. not everyone talks so not that much socializing...but then again thats a good thing considering how many a-h**** there are on live...or annoying 10 year olds

not really never been a headset fan . for pc xbox 360 and ps3 i use the keyboard to communicate with my friends

not really never bean a headset fan ever for pc xbox 360 and ps3 i use the keyboard to communicate with my friends

halo_wars86

I don't have a headset and that's the reason why I don't play multiplayer that much on PS3.

I really don't think there is a game where 360 has voice chat while PSN doesn't. If you can prove me wrong than so be it but I'm very familiar with the PS3's library and I do not know of a game that does not support voice chat while the 360 does.

Headsets aren't even that expensive. Some people make it out like you have to get a Bluetooth headset. The mic I used to use was a $10 USB Mic that worked great. I don't think it hurts the community at all.

Sometimes I rather prefer it because then I don't have to deal with as many trash talkers after every match that I play. I don't really need screaming teenagers yelling racists remarks around to get a good online experience

No. If people want headsets they can buy them easily enough. I have a headset but i hardly use it. I usually mute everyone whenever i play MP games anyway.

zarshack

Here is a perfect illustration. He doesn't skip voice chat because of a lack of hardware, and let's face it: how many people here have no access to a bluetooth headset or USB headset/microphone and have a PS3? Very few. The apparent difference in mic usage has more to due with the different preferences of the communities than anything else.

The Average PSN user is 28. Is it totally weird to think they might elect to ignore an aspect of online multiplayer that is populated by people around half their age?

I really don't think there is a game where 360 has voice chat while PSN doesn't. If you can prove me wrong than so be it but I'm very familiar with the PS3's library and I do not know of a game that does not support voice chat while the 360 does.

BPoole96

i believe WWE smackdown vs raw 2008 on ps3 is one.

there are a few more. i cant remember becuase i dont have a ps3, but i remember reading about certain games when people made comparisons and the ps3 version was cited for lack of voice chat when 360 had it.

if i reember more titles, i willl tell you. :)

FEAR on ps3 didnt hve voice chat while 360 version did.

http://ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/fear/784433p2.html

and smackdown vs raw 2008 too (no voice chat on ps3)

http://ps3.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r32205.htm

tna impact (no voice on ps3)

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/908/908525p3.html

;)

i was thinking of getting a ps3 (mainly for blu ray players), but then it struck me awhile ago taht buying a new PS3 does not come with a headset, when compared to the 360 (the other main console for online play), headsets are bundled with a lot ff stuff makknng for some overpriced acesories.

so taht made me think: how is ps3 to compete with 360's online when buying the ps3 does not come with a headset bundled inside? i mean really, online chat is almost a requirement to build a strong gaming community. chat with your friends, etc, discuss strategies and more. how can the ps3 ship w/o an included headset?

another issue is that many ps3 games do not support headset either, while the 360 version does. i cant think of any examples off the top of my head at the moment, but there are several. ps3 version does not support voice chat at all while 360 does totaally.

so thats what i've been thinking about when i look at ps3. how is it supposed to build a strong online community when buying the ps3 does not include a headset?

[btw, if newer ps3s do include a headset, then im talking about the prev versions]

KittyHeart

Since you mainly wanted the PS3 for a BluRay player, why is this such a burning issue for you?

And no... there aren't "Many ps3 games (that) do not support headset either, while the 360 version does." I imagine if you go back into the library you may find an example or two. But that would be the rare exception, not the rule.

ps3 version does not support voice chat at all while 360 does totaally.

so thats what i've been thinking about when i look at ps3. how is it supposed to build a strong online community when buying the ps3 does not include a headset?

[btw, if newer ps3s do include a headset, then im talking about the prev versions]

KittyHeart

I my opinion it hinders the communication during game-play a lot. Imagine playing a shooting game, and you get killed from the back, and your friend is standing right beside you, waiting to be killed as well, and you can't tell him to turn around, only to watch him get killed just like you did, it can be very frustrating.

You basically can't communicate well during team based game-types.

FEAR on ps3 didnt hve voice chat while 360 version did.

http://ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/fear/784433p2.html

and smackdown vs raw 2008 too (no voice chat on ps3)

http://ps3.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r32205.htm

tna impact (no voice on ps3)

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/908/908525p3.html

;)

KittyHeart

Thanks for correcting me on that. I haven't played either of those titles so I didn't know. All of the multiplayer games I own for PS3 have voice chat

doesnt hinder it much in bout every MW2 game i have been in at least 4 of us have HS's and its been good met a few cool people with it, it does hinder it slightly as people arent adopting them as they do in XBL as the function in many ways isnt well advertised.

Altho you do tend to find much like XBL friends will tend to speak between themselves.Altho there is the odd game where everyone has a good laugh and communicates well and wins the game just like any other service.It has its moments :P

Not saying the mass adoption of the headsets isa bad thing but its sometimes good cause the game isnt as much of a mindless rabble as i have seen in a few rooms.

It's funny how people complain about this all the time and talk about Live as being this very strong community, yet I always only see a few people chatting on Xbox Live and PSN. Look, the only time I really get to talk to people and develop any kind of relationship is when I'm playing a popular MMORPG (like Ragnarok Online - but I don't play mmorpgs anymore) or SOME PC first person shooters on steam. And it's even like I try to. It just happens that's great. This almost NEVER happens on Xbox Live. So quit the BS about this sense of strong community. Live just makes it easier to connect to your own friends. Now I'm not saying that it's alright to have the majority not having voice chat, but I think it's such a small majority of people who complain about this. All my of roommates are pretty much borderline Xbox fanboys (who primarily play CoD, Madden...go figure) and they never use there mic or care to listen to other people on live (unless they are saying something hilarious. In fact, I think it's the norm to not use your mic on Xbox Live.

It's funny how people complain about this all the time and talk about Live as being this very strong community, yet I always only see a few people chatting on Xbox Live and PSN. Look, the only time I really get to talk to people and develop any kind of relationship is when I'm playing a popular MMORPG (like Ragnarok Online - but I don't play mmorpgs anymore) or SOME PC first person shooters on steam. And it's even like I try to. It just happens that's great. This almost NEVER happens on Xbox Live. So quit the BS about this sense of strong community. Live just makes it easier to connect to your own friends. Now I'm not saying that it's alright to have the majority not having voice chat, but I think it's such a small majority of people who complain about this. All my of roommates are pretty much borderline Xbox fanboys (who primarily play CoD, Madden...go figure) and they never use there mic or care to listen to other people on live (unless they are saying something hilarious. In fact, I think it's the norm to not use your mic on Xbox Live.

mD-

there is no online community on consoles

Not all 360's come with a headset, I've had a 360 for almost a year now and most of the time ppl don't talk in games. The PS3 is the same thing, if the game really requires team talking ppl use mics, like in Socom, high ranked Halo...

FEAR on ps3 didnt hve voice chat while 360 version did.

http://ps3.gamespy.com/playstation-3/fear/784433p2.html

and smackdown vs raw 2008 too (no voice chat on ps3)

http://ps3.gamezone.com/gzreviews/r32205.htm

tna impact (no voice on ps3)

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/908/908525p3.html

;)

there is no online community on consoles

tutt3r

they SHOULD bundle a headset, but they don't because i imagine they make more money selling it separately.

but as far as the online community goes, you take the good with the bad. not everyone talks so not that much socializing...but then again thats a good thing considering how many a-h**** there are on live...or annoying 10 year olds

jsmoke03

Yes it does, I mean why bother putting one in the box that does everything? Or a remote? Anyways, headsets should be standard like 360 has been doing since launch.

immortality20

so what would u rather have as a standard with system a cheap headset or built in wi fi

one thing is clear its cheaper to buy a blue tooth device over the overpriced wi fi adaptor for the xbox360

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Yes it does, I mean why bother putting one in the box that does everything? Or a remote? Anyways, headsets should be standard like 360 has been doing since launch.

Cow_tipping

so what would u rather have as a standard with system a cheap headset or built in wi fi

one thing is clear its cheaper to buy a blue tooth device over the overpriced wi fi adaptor for the xbox360

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Yes it does, I mean why bother putting one in the box that does everything? Or a remote? Anyways, headsets should be standard like 360 has been doing since launch.

Cow_tipping

so what would u rather have as a standard with system a cheap headset or built in wi fi

one thing is clear its cheaper to buy a blue tooth device over the overpriced wi fi adaptor for the xbox360

Meh, when I play xbox I end up muting almost everyone in a given match anyways.

i think a headset not included with the ps3 is worth all the accesorries it comes withrather than the 360 XD but i rly dont use my mic unless im playing with some1 good and theres no annoying ppl using mics that you can understand em online

Ughh who cares? You started badly already when you said you were going to buy it mostly for a blu-ray player. If people wanted to use a headset.. they would.. you know... go get one?

[QUOTE="Cow_tipping"]

[QUOTE="immortality20"]

Yes it does, I mean why bother putting one in the box that does everything? Or a remote? Anyways, headsets should be standard like 360 has been doing since launch.

SpruceCaboose

so what would u rather have as a standard with system a cheap headset or built in wi fi

one thing is clear its cheaper to buy a blue tooth device over the overpriced wi fi adaptor for the xbox360

Anyone who says it doesn't clearly doesn't play on both consoles. Yes it does hinder online play. Most games less then 1/2 the players have mics. Ever try and play team leader when 70% of the players have no mics? Not fun.

Eh i have a headset, and only use it when i'm playing with friends. I usually dont want to talk to or listen to all the annoying people on psn.

[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

meh. I just had a one or two lying around. Plus warhawk comes with one, and everyone should get warhawk

immortality20

I'm not much into those type of games. Even a free wired one should be standard for all their systems.

another issue is that many ps3 games do not support headset either, while the 360 version does. i cant think of any examples off the top of my head at the moment, but there are several. ps3 version does not support voice chat at all while 360 does totaally.

KittyHeart

What the **** games are you talking about? :|

I've never even heard of one game like that, And you say there's "many"? Have you ever even touched a PS3 before? If you want a headset, buy one. Get over it. It's not that big of a deal. 99% of the time voice chat is solely used to talk crap and nothing more anyways. I'm actually glad that some of those annoying people are too lazy to buy a headset because I dont want to hear their annoying voices TBH. Little kids screaming into the mic is one of the most obnoxious, unbarable things in the world.

[QUOTE="KittyHeart"]

another issue is that many ps3 games do not support headset either, while the 360 version does. i cant think of any examples off the top of my head at the moment, but there are several. ps3 version does not support voice chat at all while 360 does totaally.

Messiahbolical-

What the **** games are you talking about? :|

I've never even heard of one game like that, And you say there's "many"? Have you ever even touched a PS3 before? If you want a headset, buy one. Get over it. It's not that big of a deal. 99% of the time voice chat is solely used to talk crap and nothing more anyways. I'm actually glad that some of those annoying people are too lazy to buy a headset because I dont want to hear their annoying voices TBH. Little kids screaming into the mic is one of the most obnoxious, unbarable things in the world.

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]

[QUOTE="KittyHeart"]

another issue is that many ps3 games do not support headset either, while the 360 version does. i cant think of any examples off the top of my head at the moment, but there are several. ps3 version does not support voice chat at all while 360 does totaally.

brennan7777

What the **** games are you talking about? :|

I've never even heard of one game like that, And you say there's "many"? Have you ever even touched a PS3 before? If you want a headset, buy one. Get over it. It's not that big of a deal. 99% of the time voice chat is solely used to talk crap and nothing more anyways. I'm actually glad that some of those annoying people are too lazy to buy a headset because I dont want to hear their annoying voices TBH. Little kids screaming into the mic is one of the most obnoxious, unbarable things in the world.

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]

[QUOTE="KittyHeart"]

another issue is that many ps3 games do not support headset either, while the 360 version does. i cant think of any examples off the top of my head at the moment, but there are several. ps3 version does not support voice chat at all while 360 does totaally.

brennan7777

What the **** games are you talking about? :|

I've never even heard of one game like that, And you say there's "many"? Have you ever even touched a PS3 before? If you want a headset, buy one. Get over it. It's not that big of a deal. 99% of the time voice chat is solely used to talk crap and nothing more anyways. I'm actually glad that some of those annoying people are too lazy to buy a headset because I dont want to hear their annoying voices TBH. Little kids screaming into the mic is one of the most obnoxious, unbarable things in the world.

It's funny how people complain about this all the time and talk about Live as being this very strong community, yet I always only see a few people chatting on Xbox Live and PSN. Look, the only time I really get to talk to people and develop any kind of relationship is when I'm playing a popular MMORPG (like Ragnarok Online - but I don't play mmorpgs anymore) or SOME PC first person shooters on steam. And it's even like I try to. It just happens that's great. This almost NEVER happens on Xbox Live. So quit the BS about this sense of strong community. Live just makes it easier to connect to your own friends. Now I'm not saying that it's alright to have the majority not having voice chat, but I think it's such a small majority of people who complain about this. All my of roommates are pretty much borderline Xbox fanboys (who primarily play CoD, Madden...go figure) and they never use there mic or care to listen to other people on live (unless they are saying something hilarious. In fact, I think it's the norm to not use your mic on Xbox Live.

mD-

QFT. You pretty much owned all the lems. What you say is true. People never communicate with strangers. If something they just talk crap or start singing for laughs but never after playing on live so much, have seen barely anybody using team work. You lems want a real game that uses real teamwork and communication? Go play SOCOM. Many of you probably think it sucks, but it uses much more strategic communication than any xbox live game out there.