Does the PS3 upconvert all games to 1080i?

yesMikeE21286

Huh? Unless this was fixed a firmware update I didn't yet get the answer is no (which is possible, but if this did happen in the last few months I would like a link to know about it. My understanding was that the PS3 lacked an internal scaler for game output and that it wasn't a software issue.)

For movies yes, for games no.

For example. RFOM only outputs 720p. If you have a 1080i TV it will be downres'ed to 480p.

To put it clearer. When I'm playing RFOM on my PS3 and I hit display on my TV remote it accurately reads the incoming input of the game at 720p even though it "Should" be outputting 1080i (I have 1080i output as a priority on my PS3.) Luckily for me my 1080i accepts and converts 720p so it isn't at all an issue.If you have a 1080i TV THAT DOES NOT ACCEPT 720p and you set certain games, like RFOM, to 1080i they will output max 480p.

HOWEVER, if you're 1080i TV accepts (and thus converts) 720p and converts it to 1080i then set it to also output 720p when available. It will take the 720p native/WS output and convert it to 1080i with very little (as in virtually none whatsoever) loss in Picture Quality.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]yesKingOfKonging

Huh? Unless this was fixed a firmware update I didn't yet get the answer is no (which is possible, but if this did happen in the last few months I would like a link to know about it. My understanding was that the PS3 lacked an internal scaler for game output and that it wasn't a software issue.)

For movies yes, for games no.

For example. RFOM only outputs 720p. If you have a 1080i TV it will be downres'ed to 480p.

To put it clearer. When I'm playing RFOM on my PS3 and I hit display on my TV remote it accurately reads the incoming input of the game at 720p even though it "Should" be outputting 1080i (I have 1080i output as a priority on my PS3.) Luckily for me my 1080i accepts and converts 720p so it isn't at all an issue.If you have a 1080i TV THAT DOES NOT ACCEPT 720p and you set certain games, like RFOM, to 1080i they will output max 480p.

HOWEVER, if you're 1080i TV accepts (and thus converts) 720p and converts it to 1080i then set it to also output 720p when available. It will take the 720p native/WS output and convert it to 1080i will very little (as in virtually none whatsoever)loss in Picture Quality.

your right, I was thinking movies...

I'm curious, is 1080i better than 720p?Pietrooper

I think 1080i is better for movies but 720p is better for games.

I'm curious, is 1080i better than 720p?Pietrooper

Not for videogames usually. 720p is better in motion than 1080i. 1080i is better for slow movement or still pictures.

[QUOTE="Pietrooper"]I'm curious, is 1080i better than 720p?AvIdGaMeR444

Not for videogames usually. 720p is better in motion than 1080i. 1080i is better for slow movement or still pictures.

That explains it! Going to downgrade my PS3 to 720p :D

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Theclub83

The guy in the video makes a lot of good points, but he admits himself that he is progressive format fanboy, so I would take his assessment that 720p is better than 1080i with a grain of salt.

Some people prefer 1080i because it has higher resolution (more detailed) frame than 720p. Others prefer 720p because it is indeed better at handling motion.

In reality, most people have progressive displays now-days, so they should set their devices(game consoles/cable box etc) to 720p or 1080p if they have 1080p display. I would advise setting your xbox 360 to 720p since this is naive resolution that most xbox360 games run at anyway.

The exception is CRT(tube) displays. For CRTs displays, you should choose that looks best to you (either 720p or 1080i) because the difference will depend on which scalier does its job better (the scalier in the game console/cable box or the one in your HDTV).

The thing is when something is upscaled past it's native resolution some times it losses frame rates. I play some PS2 games at 480p instead of 1080i and there is a good bit of difference when I can do this. The thing is the larger number doesn't always equal the best picture.

The games I play at 480p look very close to what COD4 looks like at 720p.

I'm curious, is 1080i better than 720p?Pietrooper

interlaced is never better than a progresive image.

[QUOTE="Pietrooper"]I'm curious, is 1080i better than 720p?doobie1975

interlaced is never better than a progresive image.

1080i has higher resolution than 720p, so yes 1080i is better than 720p when it comes to resolution.

In fact, 1080i will always be better than 720p for some displays, so saying that 720p is always better than 1080i is completely incorrect.

[QUOTE="doobie1975"]

[QUOTE="Pietrooper"]I'm curious, is 1080i better than 720p?Gytex

interlaced is never better than a progresive image.

1080i has higher resolution than 720p, so yes 1080i is better than 720p when it comes to resolution.

In fact, 1080i will always be better than 720p for some displays, so saying that 720p is always better than 1080i is completely incorrect.

do you know what interlaced means

[QUOTE="Gytex"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]

[QUOTE="Pietrooper"]I'm curious, is 1080i better than 720p?doobie1975

interlaced is never better than a progresive image.

1080i has higher resolution than 720p, so yes 1080i is better than 720p when it comes to resolution.

In fact, 1080i will always be better than 720p for some displays, so saying that 720p is always better than 1080i is completely incorrect.

do you know what interlaced means

Of course I know that it means. I would love to hear your reasoning why 720p is ALWAYS better than 1080i though.

I'm curious, is 1080i better than 720p?Pietrooper

Movies yes. Games? I'd say no.

[QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Gytex"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]

[QUOTE="Pietrooper"]I'm curious, is 1080i better than 720p?Gytex

interlaced is never better than a progresive image.

1080i has higher resolution than 720p, so yes 1080i is better than 720p when it comes to resolution.

In fact, 1080i will always be better than 720p for some displays, so saying that 720p is always better than 1080i is completely incorrect.

do you know what interlaced means

Of course I know that it means. I would love to hear your reasoning why 720p is ALWAYS better than 1080i though.

becouse a progresive image means every image you see is complete and not half of one image and then the next, interlacing was necessary for a crt display as to protect the phophor on the tube. but an LCD screen has no need to interlace an image

becouse a progresive image means every image you see is complete and not half of one image and then the next, interlacing was necessary for a crt display as to protect the phophor on the tube. but an LCD screen has no need to interlace an image

doobie1975

For progressive displays like LCD, progressive signal will be better indeed, but plenty of people still have CRT HDTVs and for them 1080i is better. Some front projectors are also 1080i as I recall.

Not taking the display type into account, 1080i frame has higher resolution than 720p, so it is better for stills and scenes without fast motion.

If we were talking 1080i vs 1080p, then of course progressive is better, but 1080i advantage in resolution in comparison to 720p can not be dismissed.

My point is that you can not speak in absolutes here. Some people will prefer 720p because it handles motion better. Others will prefer 1080i because its frame has higher resolution, and of course, the display type is even more important when choosing between 1080i and 720p.

[QUOTE="doobie1975"]

becouse a progresive image means every image you see is complete and not half of one image and then the next, interlacing was necessary for a crt display as to protect the phophor on the tube. but an LCD screen has no need to interlace an image

Gytex

For progressive displays like LCD, progressive signal will be better indeed, but plenty of people still have CRT HDTVs and for them 1080i is better. Some front projectors are also 1080i as I recall.

Not taking the display type into account, 1080i frame has higher resolution than 720p, so it is better for stills and scenes without fast motion.

If we were talking 1080i vs 1080p, then of course progressive is better, but 1080i advantage in resolution in comparison to 720p can not be dismissed.

My point is that you can not speak in absolutes here. Some people will prefer 720p because it handles motion better. Others will prefer 1080i because its frame has higher resolution, and of course, the display type is even more important when choosing between 1080i and 720p.

still dont think you know what interlaced means

[QUOTE="Gytex"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]

becouse a progresive image means every image you see is complete and not half of one image and then the next, interlacing was necessary for a crt display as to protect the phophor on the tube. but an LCD screen has no need to interlace an image

doobie1975

For progressive displays like LCD, progressive signal will be better indeed, but plenty of people still have CRT HDTVs and for them 1080i is better. Some front projectors are also 1080i as I recall.

Not taking the display type into account, 1080i frame has higher resolution than 720p, so it is better for stills and scenes without fast motion.

If we were talking 1080i vs 1080p, then of course progressive is better, but 1080i advantage in resolution in comparison to 720p can not be dismissed.

My point is that you can not speak in absolutes here. Some people will prefer 720p because it handles motion better. Others will prefer 1080i because its frame has higher resolution, and of course, the display type is even more important when choosing between 1080i and 720p.

still dont think you know what interlaced means

Nice rebuttal:roll:

I think it is you who need to educate yourself about resolution formats.

[QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Gytex"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]

becouse a progresive image means every image you see is complete and not half of one image and then the next, interlacing was necessary for a crt display as to protect the phophor on the tube. but an LCD screen has no need to interlace an image

Gytex

For progressive displays like LCD, progressive signal will be better indeed, but plenty of people still have CRT HDTVs and for them 1080i is better. Some front projectors are also 1080i as I recall.

Not taking the display type into account, 1080i frame has higher resolution than 720p, so it is better for stills and scenes without fast motion.

If we were talking 1080i vs 1080p, then of course progressive is better, but 1080i advantage in resolution in comparison to 720p can not be dismissed.

My point is that you can not speak in absolutes here. Some people will prefer 720p because it handles motion better. Others will prefer 1080i because its frame has higher resolution, and of course, the display type is even more important when choosing between 1080i and 720p.

still dont think you know what interlaced means

Nice rebuttal:roll:

I think it is you who need to educate yourself about resolution formats.

you we're the one thhat said a interlaced image was better for a still image, which simply isnt true.

[QUOTE="Gytex"][QUOTE="doobie1975"][QUOTE="Gytex"][QUOTE="doobie1975"]

becouse a progresive image means every image you see is complete and not half of one image and then the next, interlacing was necessary for a crt display as to protect the phophor on the tube. but an LCD screen has no need to interlace an image

doobie1975

For progressive displays like LCD, progressive signal will be better indeed, but plenty of people still have CRT HDTVs and for them 1080i is better. Some front projectors are also 1080i as I recall.

Not taking the display type into account, 1080i frame has higher resolution than 720p, so it is better for stills and scenes without fast motion.

If we were talking 1080i vs 1080p, then of course progressive is better, but 1080i advantage in resolution in comparison to 720p can not be dismissed.

My point is that you can not speak in absolutes here. Some people will prefer 720p because it handles motion better. Others will prefer 1080i because its frame has higher resolution, and of course, the display type is even more important when choosing between 1080i and 720p.

still dont think you know what interlaced means

Nice rebuttal:roll:

I think it is you who need to educate yourself about resolution formats.

you we're the one thhat said a interlaced image was better for a still image, which simply isnt true.

Ok, for stills 1080i frame will give you higher resolution image than 720p and that is the fact. You will get an interlace flicker with 1080i though, so some people will prefer lower resolution 720p frame instead 1080i to get rid of it. My point is both 720p and 1080i have their advantages and disadvantages, so you can not say one is better than the other. This is why 1080p was introduced because it is clearly superior to both 720p and 1080i.