Does the Wii have an answer for games like Dragon Age, Mass Effect or Fallout 3?

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

So, basically, you are saying that people who have 3Dot Heroes or LBP will not want to play SMG, SMG2 or NSMBWii, and Zelda TP...really?

PandaBear86

So, basically, you are saying that people who have 3Dot Heroes or LBP will not want to play SMG, SMG2 or NSMBWii, and Zelda TP...really?

wii doesn't have a goo answer to anything cept boredom imho Renzokucant

Wii doesnt even have an answer to Arkham Asylum let alone those games.forza420

As an owner of a 360, psp, ds, PC and Wii, I think that the Wii has put out the best games of the year so far other than the PC. I've played most of the PS3 games too at my friend's apartment.

Does it have to?musicalmac

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Does it have to?darthogre

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]Does it have to?PandaBear86

Well, if you're going down that route, just about everything could be better if it was only made for the PC.

The game as it is is incredibly kickass though.

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"]

when most of their games are designed/marketed towards the elderly and children, yes. Monster Hunter 3 seems to be the only legit game that tries to compete.....although it fails.darthogre

Well, if you're going down that route, just about everything could be better if it was only made for the PC.

The game as it is is incredibly kickass though.

has the Wii at any point looked like they even wanted those games or fits with what they are trying to achieve with this system?

yeah... silly question

Wii doesnt even have an answer to Arkham Asylum let alone those games.forza420

Considering that I'm not interested in any of those games, does it have to?

goblaa

This. I don't like most games PS360 crowd likes. I'm only into Uncharted and MGS out of the "top tier" games.

Batman AA was a shallow piece of **** gameplay wise.

The 3 games on the topic are all better on the PC, lol.

So even though the Wii is competing against the PS3 and XBox 360, they are so far ahead is sales and profits, that I don't thik Nintendo is thinking about what games they need to compare with PS3 or 360. blackace

Batman AA was a shallow piece of **** gameplay wise.

The 3 games on the topic are all better on the PC, lol.

I think the moral of this thread is that single system owners are going to miss out on a lot no matter what system they own.

I think the moral of this thread is that single system owners are going to miss out on a lot no matter what system they own.

DaBrainz

[QUOTE="blackace"]So even though the Wii is competing against the PS3 and XBox 360, they are so far ahead is sales and profits, that I don't thik Nintendo is thinking about what games they need to compare with PS3 or 360. PandaBear86

since when were their customers hardcore gamers that play games like Dragon Age and Mass Effect? :|

i dont think you have a grasp of how or what Nintendo is trying to achieve... all you want is for all 3 systems to be identical for some illogical reason

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

Batman AA was a shallow piece of **** gameplay wise.

The 3 games on the topic are all better on the PC, lol.

PandaBear86

Ye, just like GTA4's equally shallow gameplay. The controls are nice though. But hey if you liked the endless "drive from A to B" which took 10 mins sometimes, then go ahead and like it.

The HD consoles does not have an answer for everything on Wii. So there's your answer.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]

I think the moral of this thread is that single system owners are going to miss out on a lot no matter what system they own.

PandaBear86

I highly disagree with that.

PC>>DS>>Wii>>PS3>>>>>>>eating poop>>>>>360.

IMO of course

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="DaBrainz"]

I think the moral of this thread is that single system owners are going to miss out on a lot no matter what system they own.

DaBrainz

I highly disagree with that.

PC>>DS>>Wii>>PS3>>>>>>>eating poop>>>>>360.

IMO of course

lol that's exactly how I feel

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="kontejner44"]

Batman AA was a shallow piece of **** gameplay wise.

The 3 games on the topic are all better on the PC, lol.

Ye, just like GTA4's equally shallow gameplay. The controls are nice though. But hey if you liked the endless "drive from A to B" which took 10 mins sometimes, then go ahead and like it.

The HD consoles does not have an answer for everything on Wii. So there's your answer.

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"] Batman AA had shallow gameplay? WHAAAT?!? I know the 3 games I mentioned are better on PC, I play them on PC. But those were just examples off the top of my head. Plus not everybody on this forum is a PC gamer. Still, that is not a way to defend the Wii. Unless you want to compare PC gaming vs WiiPandaBear86

Ye, just like GTA4's equally shallow gameplay. The controls are nice though. But hey if you liked the endless "drive from A to B" which took 10 mins sometimes, then go ahead and like it.

The HD consoles does not have an answer for everything on Wii. So there's your answer.

Yes, that's why I don't disagree with AAA / AAAA scores. It's just that I only care for gameplay. For what it is, a storybased game, it's awesome I agree. But I personally dislike it

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]

True. But Wii owners miss out the most ;)PandaBear86

I highly disagree with that.

PC>>DS>>Wii>>PS3>>>>>>>eating poop>>>>>360.

IMO of course

lol that's exactly how I feel

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"] Batman AA had shallow gameplay? WHAAAT?!? I know the 3 games I mentioned are better on PC, I play them on PC. But those were just examples off the top of my head. Plus not everybody on this forum is a PC gamer. Still, that is not a way to defend the Wii. Unless you want to compare PC gaming vs WiiPandaBear86

Ye, just like GTA4's equally shallow gameplay. The controls are nice though. But hey if you liked the endless "drive from A to B" which took 10 mins sometimes, then go ahead and like it.

The HD consoles does not have an answer for everything on Wii. So there's your answer.

yup... cause we all know Mario games are all about the Story...

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"][QUOTE="kontejner44"]

Ye, just like GTA4's equally shallow gameplay. The controls are nice though. But hey if you liked the endless "drive from A to B" which took 10 mins sometimes, then go ahead and like it.

The HD consoles does not have an answer for everything on Wii. So there's your answer.

yup... cause we all know Mario games are all about the Story...

It might not need a strong story, but I'm sure a multi-billion dollar company can do a better job than just "rescue the princess". Even my 9-year old niece can come up with something better than that.PandaBear86

For real. Little Big Planet's story was out of this world.

Oh wait.

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"]It might not need a strong story, but I'm sure a multi-billion dollar company can do a better job than just "rescue the princess". Even my 9-year old niece can come up with something better than that.musicalmac

For real. Little Big Planet's story was out of this world.

Oh wait.

I see it as

PC>>>>Wii/360>>>>Centipede on my Nokia Cellphone in 2003>>>>>Centipede on my Nokia Cellphone after I broke the screen>>>>PS3

LBP was about customisation, so focusing on a core storyline wouldn't suit it. But look at Sony's other games like Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, as well as their old PS1 games like Spyro the Dragon. They had decent stories, much better than just recuing the princess :)PandaBear86

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"]LBP was about customisation, so focusing on a core storyline wouldn't suit it. But look at Sony's other games like Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, as well as their old PS1 games like Spyro the Dragon. They had decent stories, much better than just recuing the princess :)musicalmac

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="PandaBear86"]LBP was about customisation, so focusing on a core storyline wouldn't suit it. But look at Sony's other games like Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, as well as their old PS1 games like Spyro the Dragon. They had decent stories, much better than just recuing the princess :)PandaBear86

I lovedMGS4. I bet it's not on your huge list :P

Yes, I understand that. But, just because you have a strong storyline doesn't mean the gameplay has to be compromised in any way. I can name many games with great storylines and great gameplay. I wouldn't even know where to begin :DPandaBear86

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="PandaBear86"]LBP was about customisation, so focusing on a core storyline wouldn't suit it. But look at Sony's other games like Ratchet and Clank, Jak and Daxter, as well as their old PS1 games like Spyro the Dragon. They had decent stories, much better than just recuing the princess :)PandaBear86

'good' storyline? since when did the storyline for any platformers EVER make any sense?

to clarify, im talking about actual platformers... not action/adventure platformers like R&C

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"]Yes, I understand that. But, just because you have a strong storyline doesn't mean the gameplay has to be compromised in any way. I can name many games with great storylines and great gameplay. I wouldn't even know where to begin :Dmusicalmac

More story means less gameplay and for me gameplay>>>>>>>>story

Story would only dilute mario games more than they already have been.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="PandaBear86"]Yes, I understand that. But, just because you have a strong storyline doesn't mean the gameplay has to be compromised in any way. I can name many games with great storylines and great gameplay. I wouldn't even know where to begin :DPandaBear86

Story is bad yes. But storytelling is awesome in the Prime games at least. Why? it's skipable lmao

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="PandaBear86"]Yes, I understand that. But, just because you have a strong storyline doesn't mean the gameplay has to be compromised in any way. I can name many games with great storylines and great gameplay. I wouldn't even know where to begin :DPandaBear86

so do they lack a storyline or have a weak storyline? you cant have both

LBP is just ONE game from Sony that lacks a storyline. Its okay if just a small portion of your games lack a storyline IMO. But with Nintendo, pretty much all games lack a storyline. Mario, Zelda, Metriod, all those games have weak storylines.PandaBear86

[QUOTE="PandaBear86"]LBP is just ONE game from Sony that lacks a storyline. Its okay if just a small portion of your games lack a storyline IMO. But with Nintendo, pretty much all games lack a storyline. Mario, Zelda, Metriod, all those games have weak storylines.musicalmac

LittleBigPlanet does not answer to Super Mario Galaxy. To NSMB sure, but not to the Wii's best game. Ratchet and Clank doesn't answer to it either, not even close. 3D Dot Game Heroes would answer to Zelda if Zelda was a AA franchise and was still being made in the old fashioned 2-D style.... unfortunately for you it's a AAA series and no longer made in the old style aped by 3DDGH. There's no answer to Metroid either, as Halo, Killzone, etc. are NOT similar to it. MP is an adventure series in the first person view, it's not a first person shooter by any means.

So no it doesn't, but the 360 and PS3 don't answer back.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]First of all Wii is meant for a different market. But considering its capabilities, you might as well be asking why the Gamecube had nothing directly comparable to Uncharted 2. Wii just doesn't have the legs to handle something similar to Fallout 3, Oblivion or Bioshock without watering the experience down. I'm not talking about graphics either. On the technical level its virtually a generation behind with what dev's can produce on it.Willy105

Like I said I wasn't necessarily talking eye candy.

Last gen's adventure games were not as technically demanding on the processor's or RAM available, as current gen adventures are. It would be very naive to assume a Gamecube or PS2 could handle a Fallout 3 or Bioshock without serious compromise.

Shadow Of The Colossus did a great job creating an epic adventure within a huge world on limited hardware spec's. But it had to make that world almost completely empty and find an excuse within the story to explain it (its a banished land).

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="PandaBear86"]Yes, I understand that. But, just because you have a strong storyline doesn't mean the gameplay has to be compromised in any way. I can name many games with great storylines and great gameplay. I wouldn't even know where to begin :DPandaBear86

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"]First of all Wii is meant for a different market. But considering its capabilities, you might as well be asking why the Gamecube had nothing directly comparable to Uncharted 2. Wii just doesn't have the legs to handle something similar to Fallout 3, Oblivion or Bioshock without watering the experience down. I'm not talking about graphics either. On the technical level its virtually a generation behind with what dev's can produce on it.tomarlyn

Like I said I wasn't necessarily talking eye candy.

Last gen's adventure games were not as technically demanding on the processor's or RAM available, as current gen adventures are. It would be very naive to assume a Gamecube or PS2 could handle a Fallout 3 or Bioshock without serious compromise.

Shadow Of The Colossus did a great job creating an epic adventure within a huge world on limited hardware spec's. But it had to make that world almost completely empty and find an excuse within the story to explain it (its a banished land).

gta: san andreas?

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="Willy105"] It doesn't work like that. Just because it's on a less graphically intesive console doesn't mean it can't be done. How do you explain the adventure games for the N64, or PS2, or Gamecube, or Xbox, or Wii?ogvampire

Like I said I wasn't necessarily talking eye candy.

Last gen's adventure games were not as technically demanding on the processor's or RAM available, as current gen adventures are. It would be very naive to assume a Gamecube or PS2 could handle a Fallout 3 or Bioshock without serious compromise.

Shadow Of The Colossus did a great job creating an epic adventure within a huge world on limited hardware spec's. But it had to make that world almost completely empty and find an excuse within the story to explain it (its a banished land).

gta: san andreas?

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

Like I said I wasn't necessarily talking eye candy.

Last gen's adventure games were not as technically demanding on the processor's or RAM available, as current gen adventures are. It would be very naive to assume a Gamecube or PS2 could handle a Fallout 3 or Bioshock without serious compromise.

Shadow Of The Colossus did a great job creating an epic adventure within a huge world on limited hardware spec's. But it had to make that world almost completely empty and find an excuse within the story to explain it (its a banished land).

tomarlyn

gta: san andreas?

gta4 has alot of pop-in as well... point is, they could have been made