Does the Wii U start the next generation of consoles?

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#51 psymon100
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[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]

Minecraft is a next gen game if we go by the timeframe definition, and it has graphics from 3-4 gens ago!

RyviusARC

What.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrxcTEpsA1k&hd=1

That was such an awesome video, thanks Ryvius. I really should boot up minecraft.

And to answer the esteemed TC Mr Charizard 1605's question:

Yes.

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#52 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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What if I say no?

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#53 lundy86_4
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What if I say no?

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#54 Michael0134567
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Not surprising that some said no.

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#55 carlisledavid79
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Simple answer. Yes is does.
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#56 Sushiglutton
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Not surprising that some said no.

Michael0134567
So what effect will the release of the wii-u have on franchises like COD, Assassin's Creed, GTA, Fifa and other big third party franchises? The answer is pretty much none at all. However when PS360 releases we will see a major shift. Isn't that the most important part of a new generation?
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#57 percuvius2
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last gen consoles like wiiuniversity don't equal next gen starting, that being said, come join the next gen which is already underway on the PC!

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#58 ronvalencia
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Simple question. I am trying to catalog the extent of stupidity on this board.

charizard1605

It depends on the released hardware.

For example, Radeon HD 4860M ~= Radeon HD 47x0 desktop and it's design serve as the basis for Radeon HD 57x0/67x0 and Radeon HD 58x0M.

Radeon HD 4860M comes with GDDR5 memory type.


Info for Radeon HD 4860M http://www.amd.com/US/PRODUCTS/NOTEBOOK/GRAPHICS/ATI-MOBILITY-HD-4000/HD-4830-4860/Pages/hd-4830-4860.aspx

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#59 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Not surprising that some said no.

Sushiglutton
So what effect will the release of the wii-u have on franchises like COD, Assassin's Creed, GTA, Fifa and other big third party franchises? The answer is pretty much none at all. However when PS360 releases we will see a major shift. Isn't that the most important part of a new generation?

I don't know, I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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#60 Kingpin0114
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Yep it does.

Still incredibly disappointed with the decisions Nintendo made with WiiU but I will probably pick one up when the Black one gets a price drop.

For now just saving up for either PS4 or the Nextbox

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#61 GamerwillzPS
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Not surprising that some said no.

Michael0134567

Is that you? :P

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#62 arto1223
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I want to say no because it seems like such a little leap in the hardware, but technically, it is a new system, so yea.

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#63 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Not surprising that some said no.

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Is that you? :P

What? :P
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#64 bonesawisready5
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Is 2GB RAM better than 512MB? Then you have your answer
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#65 AmazonTreeBoa
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Not for me. I look at the Wii U and Nintendo FINALLY entering the current gen. After the Wii, I stopped just going by when a console releases. It also has to advance a lot in tech and the Wii U is nowhere near a big enough leap over the PS3/360 for me to consider it next gen.
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#66 mariokart64fan
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if the 360 was the start of this gen

and ps2 was the start of last gen , then yes the wii u is the start of next gen stop being in denial , it does full 1080 phd , at 60 fps ,

name a ps3 360 game that can without upscalling !

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#67 percuvius2
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if the 360 was the start of this gen

and ps2 was the start of last gen , then yes the wii u is the start of next gen stop being in denial , it does full 1080 phd , at 60 fps ,

name a ps3 360 game that can without upscalling !

mariokart64fan

PC has done 1080p 60 FOR YEARS. The last gen started already on PC and wiiuniversity has last gen specs.

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#68 ronvalencia
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Yep it does.

Still incredibly disappointed with the decisions Nintendo made with WiiU but I will probably pick one up when the Black one gets a price drop.

For now just saving up for either PS4 or the Nextbox

Kingpin0114

Well, name a GPU with 25 to 70 watt TDP budget without the Radeon HD 7750.

For example

1. Radeon HD 5830M has 25 watts. Radeon HD 5830M based on RadeonHD 57x0/67x0 desktop with a lower clockspeed and better/premium speed bin (i.e. hard to mass produce).

2. Radeon HD 5730M has 26 watts. Radeon HD 57x0M based on RadeonHD 56x0 desktop with a lower clockspeed and better/premium speed bin (i.e. hard to mass produce, but easier than 5830M).

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#69 DarkLink77
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Yeah. Only idiots who don't understand how console generations work will say otherwise.

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#70 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

What if I say no?

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Unstoppable forces meeting immovable objects, cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria. But don't let that stop you.
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#71 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

if the 360 was the start of this gen

and ps2 was the start of last gen , then yes the wii u is the start of next gen stop being in denial , it does full 1080 phd , at 60 fps ,

name a ps3 360 game that can without upscalling !

percuvius2

PC has done 1080p 60 FOR YEARS. The last gen started already on PC and wiiuniversity has last gen specs.

Unfortunately, PC hardware doesn't actually start the next gen.
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#72 AmazonTreeBoa
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if the 360 was the start of this gen

and ps2 was the start of last gen , then yes the wii u is the start of next gen stop being in denial , it does full 1080 phd , at 60 fps ,

name a ps3 360 game that can without upscalling !

mariokart64fan
But the PS2 wasn't the start of last gen, the Dreamcast was.
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#73 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

What if I say no?

lundy86_4

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No it is :P

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#74 Cheleman
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no

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#75 Blackbond
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#76 Kingpin0114
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[QUOTE="Kingpin0114"]

Yep it does.

Still incredibly disappointed with the decisions Nintendo made with WiiU but I will probably pick one up when the Black one gets a price drop.

For now just saving up for either PS4 or the Nextbox

ronvalencia

Well, name a GPU with 25 to 70 watt TDP budget without the Radeon HD 7750.

For example

1. Radeon HD 5830M has 25 watts. Radeon HD 5830M based on RadeonHD 57x0/67x0 desktop with a lower clockspeed and better/premium speed bin (i.e. hard to mass produce).

2. Radeon HD 5730M has 26 watts. Radeon HD 57x0M based on RadeonHD 56x0 desktop with a lower clockspeed and better/premium speed bin (i.e. hard to mass produce, but easier than 5830M).

Um dude....I'm not a techie so you listing all that stuff was kind of a waste of time.

If I did know what all that meant, that would not magically make me go gaga over the WiiU. So far this just seems to be a little bit more powerful than HD twins and that is not impressive.

Oh well...I will get one eventually but I can definitely wait a few years.

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#77 mitu123
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Yes, but only the Black one.

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#78 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Yeah. Only idiots who don't understand how console generations work will say otherwise.

DarkLink77
So as of right now, there's seventeen idiots on this board? I think this poll is a little too kind to System Wars.
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#79 campzor
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yes
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#80 Drasonak
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Uh, no, the 3DS did back in March 2011. Handhelds should not be disregarded if we're going to include PC.
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#81 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Uh, no, the 3DS did back in March 2011. Handhelds should not be disregarded if we're going to include PC.Drasonak
Next generation of consoles
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#82 Ghost120x
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Literally yes, but theoretically no.
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#83 Drasonak
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Yeah. Only idiots who don't understand how console generations work will say otherwise.

charizard1605
So as of right now, there's seventeen idiots on this board? I think this poll is a little too kind to System Wars.

You can't base someone's intelligence off their criteria for a generation. It's semantics. Would you judge someone's intelligence off their religious beliefs? System generations are arbitrary.
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#84 nintendoboy16
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I'd say it does.
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#85 psymon100
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Would you judge someone's intelligence off their religious beliefs?Drasonak

I would love to answer this question but I feel it is outside the allowed parameters of discussion here at SW.

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#86 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Yeah. Only idiots who don't understand how console generations work will say otherwise.

charizard1605
So as of right now, there's seventeen idiots on this board? I think this poll is a little too kind to System Wars.

You know, locopatho called me out for smelling fish in this board at one point...
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#87 MK-Professor
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if wii U was released in 2008 with exactly the same hardware specs and with the same upcoming games, will the new gen begin in 2008?

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#88 WiiCubeM1
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It's a major upgrade from the Wii... so yes.

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#89 WiiCubeM1
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Yeah. Only idiots who don't understand how console generations work will say otherwise.

Drasonak

So as of right now, there's seventeen idiots on this board? I think this poll is a little too kind to System Wars.

You can't base someone's intelligence off their criteria for a generation. It's semantics. Would you judge someone's intelligence off their religious beliefs? System generations are arbitrary.

You haven't been here long, have you?

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#90 _Cadbury_
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Sure but it's a bit of a joke to start a new gen with a console just catching up to the current gen standards. Why does it matter whether or not it signals a new gen anyway.
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#91 XenoNinja
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of course! next-gen shouldn't be based on just a big graphical jump.
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#92 YearoftheSnake5
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Yes.

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#93 dobzilian
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Dude was this Topic created due to the stupidity of cows in denial on my Topic?! Overall: Yes
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#94 Phazevariance
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Definately yes

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#95 GD1551
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No, it's obviously competing with this gen's consoles so it most definitely is not next-gen.

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#96 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Where does Dreamcast sit? That console was dead by the time all the competition arrived--doesn't software count for something? What if Xbox and Playstation are so much more incredibly powerful(lol kinect) that their game design is much much different than wiiu, and wiiu ends up retaining this gens 3rd party design? (hypothetically speakingw of course)
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Yep.
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#98 SuperFlakeman
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No, it's obviously competing with this gen's consoles so it most definitely is not next-gen.

GD1551

Nope, this gen has been saturated, if you look at the sales curves of 360 and PS3, they have passed their maximum and are well on the way down.

Similarly, 3rd parties are starting to transition to next gen systems.

Wii U will be competing with Xbox 3 and eventually PS4, thus these three systems together will form the 8th gen.

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If we cut the bs I know what you mean; graphics.

But the GamePad is the next gen controller, so in that sense, Wii U is a next gen system; consumers will look at the gamepad vs dualshock and naturally come to the conclusion that the gamepad is the new/superior version.

Graphics mean nothing anymore. Minecraft is a current gen game, as well as GTA V. :)

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#99 HarlockJC
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No, it's obviously competing with this gen's consoles so it most definitely is not next-gen.

GD1551
The start of any generation of gaming would compete with the generation before if. An example of this the 360 had to compete with the PS2 at the time of it's launch or the Sega Genesis had to compete with the NES.
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#100 haziqonfire
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Obviously.

It's the first eighth generation console. The 3DS was basically the first platform for cycle six of consoles, followed by the Vita. The Wii U is up next and probably Microsoft following suit with the new Xbox. Sony will probably release their platform last.