Does Xbox 360 have any original ideas of its own?

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#1 The__MCP
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Talk about a motion sensing controller.

Talk about a 40-60 GB new unit just like the MGS4 bundle.

Talk about a Blu-Ray unit.

Talk about JRPGs from the PS days, shooters from the PC days.....

Does Xbox bring anything new to the table?

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#2 Chutebox  Online
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xbox had a good one with hard drives on all consoles, but MS felt the need to do away with that for some reason.
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They were the first to effectively implement an online service for consoles.
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#4 mastarifla
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1) Guide Button 2) Dashboard 3) XBL 4) HDD's in consoles 5) HD cables right out of the box

6) Standardized Headset 7) Achievements This is weak flame bait at best...
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#5 Eltroz
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Talk about a motion sensing controller.

Talk about a 40-60 GB new unit just like the MGS4 bundle.

Talk about a Blu-Ray unit.

Talk about JRPGs from the PS days, shooters from the PC days.....

Does Xbox bring anything new to the table?

The__MCP

Did you just imply Playstation invented jrpgs? Let me guess Sony created fire in your opinion also right?

Also you mention 40-60gb well MS had the first console with a hard drive so Sony stole that idea

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#6 knight-k
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Only achievements...LOL, pathetic.

M$ brings nothing new....only RROD's.

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#7 psn_Jaimzl
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1) Guide Button 2) Dashboard 3) XBL 4) HDD's in consoles 5) HD cables right out of the box

6) Standardized Headset 7) Achievements This is weak flame bait at best...mastarifla

the ps2 had an HDD addon and all the rest was done on pc's /thread

lol jk

good points

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#8 CreepyBacon
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Lol you're going to get torn apart, it's not even worth pointing out your flaws. I'll just sit back and laugh as people pick apart your points.

As if sony was the first to put a HDD in there console. :lol::lol:

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#9 psn_Jaimzl
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RROD?
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All I can say is: O.o
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#11 mastarifla
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Only achievements...LOL, pathetic.

M$ brings nothing new....only RROD's.

knight-k
Please read my above post to see that you are dead wrong, thanks.

the ps2 had an HDD addon and all the rest was done on pc's /thread

lol jk

good points

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The PS2 HDD addon was after the Xbox was released :P I know yyour JK'ing but a lot of those things not even the PC has done, mainly because each game usually supports itself.
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#12 the-very-best
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First to offer multiple SKUs at launch?
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#13 knight-k
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[QUOTE="knight-k"]

Only achievements...LOL, pathetic.

M$ brings nothing new....only RROD's.

mastarifla

Please read my above post to see that you are dead wrong, thanks.

I read that, the only thing worth saying are achievements.

Really mickeysoft brings nothing new only faulty hardware.

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#14 st1ka
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[QUOTE="mastarifla"][QUOTE="knight-k"]

Only achievements...LOL, pathetic.

M$ brings nothing new....only RROD's.

knight-k

Please read my above post to see that you are dead wrong, thanks.

I read that, the only thing worth saying are achievements.

Really mickeysoft brings nothing new only faulty hardware.

so you think achievements > online play?
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#15 mastarifla
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[QUOTE="mastarifla"][QUOTE="knight-k"]

Only achievements...LOL, pathetic.

M$ brings nothing new....only RROD's.

knight-k

Please read my above post to see that you are dead wrong, thanks.

I read that, the only thing worth saying are achievements.

Really mickeysoft brings nothing new only faulty hardware.

Worth Saying? Last time I checked I used every single feature that was listed daily... how is that not "worth saying"... I guess we just forget about the DRE's of the PS2 (guess what they still haven't fixed it)? Or the Recent firmware bricking of the PS3? Selective memories will kill ya
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#16 Eltroz
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I swear it it threads like this and some of the people posting that are making this forum less fun more and more. In the past the fanboys could at least make some sort of argument. Now it seems the age group has really gone done and just a lot of fanboy rants.
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#17 the-very-best
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so you think achievements > online play?st1ka

Xbox and PS2 had online play. And obviously PC...

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#18 JLF1
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Talk about a motion sensing controller.

Talk about a 40-60 GB new unit just like the MGS4 bundle.

Talk about a Blu-Ray unit.

Talk about JRPGs from the PS days, shooters from the PC days.....

Does Xbox bring anything new to the table?

The__MCP

What is it with all these 14 year olds that started gaming in the PS1 or PS2 gen.


SONY has not invented any genre.
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#19 the-very-best
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[QUOTE="The__MCP"]

Talk about a motion sensing controller.

Talk about a 40-60 GB new unit just like the MGS4 bundle.

Talk about a Blu-Ray unit.

Talk about JRPGs from the PS days, shooters from the PC days.....

Does Xbox bring anything new to the table?

JLF1


What is it with all these 14 year olds that started gaming in the PS1 or PS2 gen.


SONY has not invented any genre.

Just made some more popular.

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#20 mastarifla
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[QUOTE="st1ka"]so you think achievements > online play?the-very-best

Xbox and PS2 had online play. And obviously PC...

You know what he means t-v-b... online play is just short for the whole universal standardized experience that you get with XBL, PC's tend to not do this... that why there are app's like Vent/Teamspeak/Xfire Steam released the same year as XBL btw :P 2002
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#21 st1ka
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]
so you think achievements > online play?st1ka
Xbox and PS2 had online play. And obviously PC...

i completly forgot about the original xbox good call, still the 360s improvements over the predecessor can not be denied
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#22 Foolz3h
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Yep, red ring of death.
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[QUOTE="st1ka"]so you think achievements > online play?the-very-best

Xbox and PS2 had online play. And obviously PC...

Dreamcast did too!

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#24 Chutebox  Online
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Yep, red ring of death.Foolz3h

That kick is insane...

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#25 Toriko42
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Talk about a motion sensing controller.

Talk about a 40-60 GB new unit just like the MGS4 bundle.

Talk about a Blu-Ray unit.

Talk about JRPGs from the PS days, shooters from the PC days.....

Does Xbox bring anything new to the table?

The__MCP
Don't even get me started on the PS3's so called 'original ideas'
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#26 mastarifla
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Yep, red ring of death.Foolz3h
and of course we all know that Sony pioneered the DRE, which in fact STILL hasn't been fixed... (which is why they switched to silver bottomed games)
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[QUOTE="Foolz3h"]Yep, red ring of death.mastarifla
and of course we all know that Sony pioneered the DRE, which in fact STILL hasn't been fixed... (which is why they switched to silver bottomed games)

what are you talking about ? the blue disks were Cd's the silver disks are DVDs

some of the early ps2 games were on CD

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#28 the-very-best
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What's the point of this thread? I should have actually read the OP before I posted,,,

I thought he was genuinely curious as to what 360 did.

Anyway, the 360 isn't that original but I don't see what's too wrong about that as long as the system is fun, which it is, so...

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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]so you think achievements > online play?Chutebox

Xbox and PS2 had online play. And obviously PC...

Dreamcast did too!

I've never even touched a Dreamcast. :o

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]so you think achievements > online play?the-very-best

Xbox and PS2 had online play. And obviously PC...

Dreamcast did too!

I've never even touched a Dreamcast. :o

You missed out man!

I remember playing NFL 2k online with my brother against my friend who was at his house. My brother and I sucked and were arguing the whole time....good times!!!

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1) Guide Button 2) Dashboard 3) XBL 4) HDD's in consoles 5) HD cables right out of the box

6) Standardized Headset 7) Achievements This is weak flame bait at best...mastarifla
8 )Integrated OS 9)Thems/Customization of interface 10)Marketplace ^_^ Correct me if i'm wrong.
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#33 st1ka
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[QUOTE="mastarifla"][QUOTE="Foolz3h"]Yep, red ring of death.knight-k

and of course we all know that Sony pioneered the DRE, which in fact STILL hasn't been fixed... (which is why they switched to silver bottomed games)

Hmm, last time I checked RROD hasn't been fixed too....hmmm

Really you have to be stupid or rich if you buy hardware that has a chance of 33% failure.

why do i sense jealousy in your tone?

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[QUOTE="mastarifla"][QUOTE="Foolz3h"]Yep, red ring of death.knight-k

and of course we all know that Sony pioneered the DRE, which in fact STILL hasn't been fixed... (which is why they switched to silver bottomed games)

Hmm, last time I checked RROD hasn't been fixed too....hmmm

Really you have to be stupid or rich if you buy hardware that has a chance of 33% failure.

The ps2 has been out...7 or 8 years?360 hasn't been out 3 years. If the Zypher...Zipper,w/e the new one is called,doesn't fix it then I doubt if it ever will be fixed.
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#35 JLF1
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]so you think achievements > online play?Chutebox

Xbox and PS2 had online play. And obviously PC...

Dreamcast did too!

The SEGA Genesis had online.
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#36 knight-k
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[QUOTE="knight-k"]

[QUOTE="mastarifla"][QUOTE="Foolz3h"]Yep, red ring of death.st1ka

and of course we all know that Sony pioneered the DRE, which in fact STILL hasn't been fixed... (which is why they switched to silver bottomed games)

Hmm, last time I checked RROD hasn't been fixed too....hmmm

Really you have to be stupid or rich if you buy hardware that has a chance of 33% failure.

why do i sense jealousy in your tone?

Jealousy ...for what? Hardware that fails 1/3 of the time...loool!

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#37 st1ka
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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="knight-k"]

[QUOTE="mastarifla"][QUOTE="Foolz3h"]Yep, red ring of death.knight-k

and of course we all know that Sony pioneered the DRE, which in fact STILL hasn't been fixed... (which is why they switched to silver bottomed games)

Hmm, last time I checked RROD hasn't been fixed too....hmmm

Really you have to be stupid or rich if you buy hardware that has a chance of 33% failure.

why do i sense jealousy in your tone?

Jealousy ...for what? Hardware that fails 1/3 of the time...loool!

there it is again, why so jealous?

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Does Xbox 360 have any original ideas of its own?The__MCP
I believe RRoD was all them. I don't believe anybody was doing that before them.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

[QUOTE="st1ka"]so you think achievements > online play?JLF1

Xbox and PS2 had online play. And obviously PC...

Dreamcast did too!

The SEGA Genesis had online.

Who do you think you are showing me up like that?!

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#40 JLF1
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[QUOTE="The__MCP"]Does Xbox 360 have any original ideas of its own?Bubblehash
I believe RRoD was all them. I don't believe anybody was doing that before them.


That's true 360 was the first console with RROD but PS2 was the first console with DRE ( I had three of them) and PS1 had to be upside down to work.
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[QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="knight-k"]

[QUOTE="mastarifla"][QUOTE="Foolz3h"]Yep, red ring of death.st1ka

and of course we all know that Sony pioneered the DRE, which in fact STILL hasn't been fixed... (which is why they switched to silver bottomed games)

Hmm, last time I checked RROD hasn't been fixed too....hmmm

Really you have to be stupid or rich if you buy hardware that has a chance of 33% failure.

why do i sense jealousy in your tone?

Jealousy ...for what? Hardware that fails 1/3 of the time...loool!

there it is again, why so jealous?

You're the one that's jealous my friend.

I only stated some facts. 360=33% failure rate=FACT.

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#42 killab2oo5
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You're the one that's jealous my friend.

I only stated some facts. 360=33% failure rate=FACT.

knight-k
Link?
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#43 knight-k
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[QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="knight-k"]

[QUOTE="mastarifla"][QUOTE="Foolz3h"]Yep, red ring of death.killab2oo5

and of course we all know that Sony pioneered the DRE, which in fact STILL hasn't been fixed... (which is why they switched to silver bottomed games)

Hmm, last time I checked RROD hasn't been fixed too....hmmm

Really you have to be stupid or rich if you buy hardware that has a chance of 33% failure.

why do i sense jealousy in your tone?

Jealousy ...for what? Hardware that fails 1/3 of the time...loool!

there it is again, why so jealous?

You're the one that's jealous my friend.

I only stated some facts. 360=33% failure rate=FACT.

Link?

And you? Show me a link that shows that 360 doesn't have such a high failure rate.

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#44 JLF1
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And you? Show me a link that shows that 360 doesn't have such a high failure rate.

knight-k

That's not how it works here. If you want to bring FACT you have you have to actually bring facts to prove your FACT.
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Eh, "Xbox 360" doesn't have any ideas, original or unoriginal, it's a machine, it doesn't think for itself. Microsoft on the other hand, do think up of the ideas. Phrase topic titles better.
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#46 st1ka
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[QUOTE="knight-k"][QUOTE="knight-k"]

Hmm, last time I checked RROD hasn't been fixed too....hmmm

Really you have to be stupid or rich if you buy hardware that has a chance of 33% failure.


knight-k

Jealousy ...for what? Hardware that fails 1/3 of the time...loool!


You're the one that's jealous my friend.

I only stated some facts. 360=33% failure rate=FACT.

when someone insults a person or an object that person has a reason to

the most common reasons are: you were insulted first, or there is something about that person/object that threatens you

no one in this thread insulted you or the playstation and yet you said that anyone who owns a 360 has to be rich or stupid

which means one of these things:

you perceive the 360 has a "threat" to your inanimate object (the PS3) so you insult it without provocation making you an irrational human being

you are jealous for the fact that you at the moment can not have a 360 so insulted to hide your feelings, making you a hipocrite

you have previously owned a 360 and you got a RROD, which by your logic means you are either rich, or stupid

but if you were rich you would not be bothered by the fact that it broke, you would simply get a new one

so which is it?

And you? Show me a link that shows that 360 doesn't have such a high failure rate.

knight-k

youre the one making the claim you suply the proof

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And you? Show me a link that shows that 360 doesn't have such a high failure rate.

knight-k

Lol,I never said it had a high or low attach rate...but if you insist.

This LINK claims 16%. This was after the false of Gamestop claiming 33% btw. Could be higher,could be lower. There's no real accurate way of telling...well i'm sure MS knows.

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#48 micky4889
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[QUOTE="knight-k"]You're the one that's jealous my friend.

I only stated some facts. 360=33% failure rate=FACT.

killab2oo5

Link?

here

http://www.pcworld.com/article/134144/estimates_say_xbox_360_failure_rate_as_high_as_33.html

and here

http://www.ripten.com/2007/07/03/failure-rate-xbox-360-high-as-33-sony-ps3-less-than-1/

and here

http://consumerist.com/consumer/defects/xbox-360-failure-rate-as-high-as-33-274847.php

oh and

http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=119888

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#49 readingfc_1
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Talk about a motion sensing controller.

Talk about a 40-60 GB new unit just like the MGS4 bundle.

Talk about a Blu-Ray unit.

Talk about JRPGs from the PS days, shooters from the PC days.....

Does Xbox bring anything new to the table?

The__MCP

They were the first to implement a Hd in all consoles and start up a good unified online service.