does xbox one Improved CPU/GPU specs make it better than ps4

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#1 Cow_tipping
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does xbox one improved specs tip the balance in its favor and makes it a more powerful system than the ps4?

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#2 clyde46
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It doesn't.
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#3 Spartan070
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It diminishes the PS4 POWAH advantage but doesn't make it better.
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#4 Rocker6
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No, as far as power is concerned, PS4 still has a minor advantage.

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should sony also improve specs to keep a good lead in power? and is xbox one gong to suffer from the 3rd console curse that affected sony, nintendo and sega
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#6 Riverwolf007
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specs don't make anything better than anything.

games are what makes some consoles better than other consoles.

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#7 super600  Moderator
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No!The xbox one is still weaker than the ps4, but that does not really matter.

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#8 lockjaw333
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Developers, developers, developers.

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#9 Cow_tipping
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this gen both systems were equal but based on sales xbox 360 had better exclusives

 while ps3 had more choices of exlusive content it did not sell as good as xbox360 exclusive content

 

will this remain next gen?

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nice try next question
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nice try next questionlegalize82
dat dodging...
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[QUOTE="Cow_tipping"]should sony also improve specs to keep a good lead in power? and is xbox one gong to suffer from the 3rd console curse that affected sony, nintendo and sega

Segas this console was the Genesis.
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#13 WilliamRLBaker
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No.

its only a 12% jump.

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#14 ramonnl
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No, just something microsoft use to push some more sales...

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The cpu clock rate boost will help with the multitasking not not really any real gains for gaming. Then with the gpu upclock its slight boost to the fact they will get the the same performance as with the original clockrate without the 10% reserve on gpu cycles. The PS4 does have a slight edge when it comes to gpu processing power with around 30% more. But that will only translate with multiplats with some select few higher settings vs X1 with the set standard
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Microsoft should clock it up to 2.75ghz and slap a watercooler on it.

Then, I'd be impressed.

 

The PS4 has a 1.84 TFLOP rating out of the box without any overclocking.

The XB1 had a 1.23 TFLOP rating out of the box before they decided to increase the GPU and CPU clocks.

The XB1 is probably up to 1.33? 1.34? now, with all the boosting. But, the GPU does more work than a CPU on a gaming console, so boosting the CPU might just increase stuff like response time when switching Cable TV channels or Kinect Swipe Gestures on the XB1.

You won't see a noticably higher framerate in any games with just a 0.15ghz CPU boost. It's the GPU they need to boost to get noticably better gaming performance.

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Microsoft should clock it up to 2.75ghz and slap a watercooler on it.

Then, I'd be impressed.

 

The PS4 has a 1.84 TFLOP rating out of the box without any overclocking.

The XB1 had a 1.23 TFLOP rating out of the box before they decided to increase the GPU and CPU clocks.

The XB1 is probably up to 1.36 now, with all the boosting. But, the GPU does more work than a CPU on a gaming console, so boosting the CPU might just increase stuff like response time when switching Cable TV channels or Kinect Swipe Gestures on the XB1.

You won't see a noticably higher framerate in any games with just a 0.15ghz CPU boost. It's the GPU they need to boost to get noticably better gaming performance.

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lol as If tflops are the end metric by which system power is measured? oh nethercrap please keep being you, you provide to many laughs.
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Microsoft should clock it up to 2.75ghz and slap a watercooler on it.

Then, I'd be impressed.

 

The PS4 has a 1.84 TFLOP rating out of the box without any overclocking.

The XB1 had a 1.23 TFLOP rating out of the box before they decided to increase the GPU and CPU clocks.

The XB1 is probably up to 1.33? 1.34? now, with all the boosting. But, the GPU does more work than a CPU on a gaming console, so boosting the CPU might just increase stuff like response time when switching Cable TV channels or Kinect Swipe Gestures on the XB1.

You won't see a noticably higher framerate in any games with just a 0.15ghz CPU boost. It's the GPU they need to boost to get noticably better gaming performance.

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#19 MonsieurX
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lol console specs
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#20 Dark_man123
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The ps4 is more powerful but let the game for each system do the talking.

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#21 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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Can I ask why this means anything anymore? Both systems will be huge upgrades over their predecessors and both will have stunning games for all of us to play. Why are we still going back and forth on console power? It will fully be in the hands of the developers and how far they can or want to push a particular console!
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#22 MonsieurX
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Can I ask why this means anything anymore? Both systems will be huge upgrades over their predecessors and both will have stunning games for all of us to play. Why are we still going back and forth on console power? It will fully be in the hands of the developers and how far they can or want to push a particular console!ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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#23 AmazonTreeBoa
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NO.
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Overclocking does not make the hardware better. It just means that Microsoft got desperate. And even with the upclock, Sony's GPU is still superior, soooooo.....Yeah. It's a lesson in futility--especially since Microsoft has only increased the likelihood of an overheat; RROD revisited.

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#25 GravityX
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It helps, but developers have said they will be very close. Of course once the games comes, we will see for ourselves.

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#26 Chutebox
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does xbox one improved specs tip the balance in its favor and makes it a more powerful system than the ps4?

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No, you can go back into hiding now.
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#27 XBOunity
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No!The xbox one is still weaker than the ps4, but that does not really matter.

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#28 NFJSupreme
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no it doesn't but it does mean that they optimized the hardware for maximum performance for the specifications they had to meet. So it's fine tuned and ready to roll out.
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as of now 43 people have no idea what they are talking about. 3 kinda have an idea. and myself and 6 others actually understannd. it is lonely being in a place where your smarter then almost everyone. Thsi poll right here shows why people are so dumb. that not only do they have 0 idea what they are talking about, but they also are willing to argue their stupidity and even vote for their wrong answer.

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as of now 43 people have no idea what they are talking about. 3 kinda have an idea. and myself and 6 others actually understannd. it is lonely being in a place where your smarter then almost everyone. Thsi poll right here shows why people are so dumb. that not only do they have 0 idea what they are talking about, but they also are willing to argue their stupidity and even vote for their wrong answer.darkangel115

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#31 ronvalencia
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does xbox one improved specs tip the balance in its favor and makes it a more powerful system than the ps4?

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It depends on the workload.
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as of now 43 people have no idea what they are talking about. 3 kinda have an idea. and myself and 6 others actually understannd. it is lonely being in a place where your smarter then almost everyone. Thsi poll right here shows why people are so dumb. that not only do they have 0 idea what they are talking about, but they also are willing to argue their stupidity and even vote for their wrong answer.

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I lol'd.
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PS4 is still stronger but it isn't anything major. The games is what will matter.

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as of now 43 people have no idea what they are talking about. 3 kinda have an idea. and myself and 6 others actually understannd. it is lonely being in a place where your smarter then almost everyone. Thsi poll right here shows why people are so dumb. that not only do they have 0 idea what they are talking about, but they also are willing to argue their stupidity and even vote for their wrong answer.

darkangel115

 

you are trying way to hard to boost your low self esteem over the internet. 

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#36 nameless12345
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They just upped the clocks so no.

PS4 still has the faster RAM and better GPU with async. compute support.

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#38 QUIKnEZ
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Spec-wise PS4 is still more "powerful," not accounting for:

  • Having to handle its own audio
  • Having to handle the eye toy (if used)
  • Havng to do all calculations locally, no cloud advantage out of the box (physics, AI).

Bandwidth wise they are largely the same, TOTAL power wise they are the same, developers agree.

Developers > You.

PS4 and X1 are the same power.

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#39 ronvalencia
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Overclocking does not make the hardware better. It just means that Microsoft got desperate. And even with the upclock, Sony's GPU is still superior, soooooo.....Yeah. It's a lesson in futility--especially since Microsoft has only increased the likelihood of an overheat; RROD revisited.

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150Mhz uplift is minor.
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#40 ronvalencia
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Microsoft should clock it up to 2.75ghz and slap a watercooler on it.

Then, I'd be impressed.

 

The PS4 has a 1.84 TFLOP rating out of the box without any overclocking.

The XB1 had a 1.23 TFLOP rating out of the box before they decided to increase the GPU and CPU clocks.

The XB1 is probably up to 1.33? 1.34? now, with all the boosting. But, the GPU does more work than a CPU on a gaming console, so boosting the CPU might just increase stuff like response time when switching Cable TV channels or Kinect Swipe Gestures on the XB1.

You won't see a noticably higher framerate in any games with just a 0.15ghz CPU boost. It's the GPU they need to boost to get noticably better gaming performance.

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There's 8 cores with 0.150 Ghz uplift.
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#41 ronvalencia
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They just upped the clocks so no.

PS4 still has the faster RAM and better GPU with async. compute support.

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All GCNs has async. compute support.
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#42 ReadingRainbow4
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Not even close.

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#43 mitu123
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Nope, but not as far as it was earlier.

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#44 Wickerman777
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Overclocking does not make the hardware better. It just means that Microsoft got desperate. And even with the upclock, Sony's GPU is still superior, soooooo.....Yeah. It's a lesson in futility--especially since Microsoft has only increased the likelihood of an overheat; RROD revisited.

Pariah_001

I've been telling people this all day. It's amazing how many people seem to think these slight upclocks are something significant. MS might have picked up a few sales by fooling the technically illiterate.

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#45 ronvalencia
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Not even close.

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http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_one_and_ps4_have_no_advantage_over_the_other_says_redlynx.html

Speaking to VideoGamer.com at E3, Ilvessuo said: " Obviously we have been developing this game for a while and you can see the comparisons. I would say if you know how to use the platform they are both very powerful. I don't see a benefit over the other with any of the consoles."

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http://www.videogamer.com/xboxone/metal_gear_solid_5_the_phantom_pain/news/ps4_and_xbox_one_power_difference_is_minimal_says_kojima.html

"The difference is small, and I don't really need to worry about it," he said, suggesting versions for Xbox One and PS4 won't be dramatically different.

----

http://gamingbolt.com/ubisoft-explains-the-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-versions-of-watch_dogs

"Of course, the Xbox One isnt to be counted out. We asked Guay how the Xbox One version of Watch_Dogs would be different compared to the PC and PS4 versions of the game, to which he replied that, The Xbox One is a powerful platform, as of now we do not foresee a major difference in on screen result between the PS4 and the Xbox One. Obviously since we are still working on pushing the game on these new consoles, we are still doing R&D."

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link

"We're still very much in the R&D period, that's what I call it, because the hardware is still new," Guay answered. "It's obvious to us that its going to take a little while before we can get to the full power of those machines and harness everything. But, even now we realise that both of them have comparable power, and for us thats good, but everyday it changes almost. Were pushing it and were going to continue doing that until [Watch Dogs] ship date."

http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/1/4580380/carmack-on-next-gen-console-hardware-very-close-very-good

Carmack on next-gen console hardware: 'very close,' 'very good'

http://www.edge-online.com/news/gaijin-games-on-why-war-thunder-isnt-coming-to-xbox-one/

How much more powerful?

AY: It depends what youre doing. GPU, like 40 per cent more powerful. DDR5 is basically 50 per cent more powerful than DDR3, but the memory write [performance] is bigger on Xbox One so it depends on what youre doing.

How is that going to translate to on-screen results for the kinds of games you want to make? So to optimise War Thunder on both consoles you could hypothetically make a better, prettier version on PS4?

AY: Yep.

KY: Probably yes. But again, thats not a very big deal.

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ooh man I really got under Ron "The Robot's" skin. Do I get an achievement for that?

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PS4 is still the most powerful video game console ever created.
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#48 QUIKnEZ
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

Not even close.

ronvalencia

http://www.videogamer.com/news/xbox_one_and_ps4_have_no_advantage_over_the_other_says_redlynx.html

Speaking to VideoGamer.com at E3, Ilvessuo said: " Obviously we have been developing this game for a while and you can see the comparisons. I would say if you know how to use the platform they are both very powerful. I don't see a benefit over the other with any of the consoles."

----

http://www.videogamer.com/xboxone/metal_gear_solid_5_the_phantom_pain/news/ps4_and_xbox_one_power_difference_is_minimal_says_kojima.html

"The difference is small, and I don't really need to worry about it," he said, suggesting versions for Xbox One and PS4 won't be dramatically different.

----

http://gamingbolt.com/ubisoft-explains-the-difference-between-ps4-and-xbox-one-versions-of-watch_dogs

"Of course, the Xbox One isnt to be counted out. We asked Guay how the Xbox One version of Watch_Dogs would be different compared to the PC and PS4 versions of the game, to which he replied that, The Xbox One is a powerful platform, as of now we do not foresee a major difference in on screen result between the PS4 and the Xbox One. Obviously since we are still working on pushing the game on these new consoles, we are still doing R&D."

----

link

"We're still very much in the R&D period, that's what I call it, because the hardware is still new," Guay answered. "It's obvious to us that its going to take a little while before we can get to the full power of those machines and harness everything. But, even now we realise that both of them have comparable power, and for us thats good, but everyday it changes almost. Were pushing it and were going to continue doing that until [Watch Dogs] ship date."

http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/1/4580380/carmack-on-next-gen-console-hardware-very-close-very-good

Carmack on next-gen console hardware: 'very close,' 'very good'

http://www.edge-online.com/news/gaijin-games-on-why-war-thunder-isnt-coming-to-xbox-one/

How much more powerful?

AY: It depends what youre doing. GPU, like 40 per cent more powerful. DDR5 is basically 50 per cent more powerful than DDR3, but the memory write [performance] is bigger on Xbox One so it depends on what youre doing.

How is that going to translate to on-screen results for the kinds of games you want to make? So to optimise War Thunder on both consoles you could hypothetically make a better, prettier version on PS4?

AY: Yep.

KY: Probably yes. But again, thats not a very big deal.

^^^^^^ Read and weep SONY drones. Developers > You Truth hurts, relying on theoretical specs is useless, to understand the differences you would have to be intimately familiar with each architecture.
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#49 stayhigh1
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its funny ms keep on eating their own words this past few months..they talk about how they made the xbone not powerful and that  it doesnt matter..and now they trying to improved their specs on production day..lmao..xbone  is a rushed console and will have many issues with it..

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Microsoft should clock it up to 2.75ghz and slap a watercooler on it.

Then, I'd be impressed.

 

The PS4 has a 1.84 TFLOP rating out of the box without any overclocking.

The XB1 had a 1.23 TFLOP rating out of the box before they decided to increase the GPU and CPU clocks.

The XB1 is probably up to 1.33? 1.34? now, with all the boosting. But, the GPU does more work than a CPU on a gaming console, so boosting the CPU might just increase stuff like response time when switching Cable TV channels or Kinect Swipe Gestures on the XB1.

You won't see a noticably higher framerate in any games with just a 0.15ghz CPU boost. It's the GPU they need to boost to get noticably better gaming performance.

Netherscourge

 

Its a 10% CPU advantage over the rumored PS4 clocks.  The fact its "just a 0.15Ghz CPU boost" is irrelevant, the Xbox 1 per thread performance is a solid 10% higher.  

It certainly doesnt make it better than PS4, but its a real advantage over the PS4 nontheless.  Â