Does XSX have the worst launch lineup ever?

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#51 tormentos
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@StrongDeadlift said:

The whole conversation around launch library and 1st year titles is strange. None of those games you are bragging about are going to be talked about even two years from now. When the gen is over, and you look back over the last 5-7 years, you arent going to be talking about Miles Morales, Ratchet and Clank, Sackboy adventure, and Demons Souls remake. You guys arent even going to be talking about the DeathLoop and Ghostwire Tokyo games you guys pretended to be excited for because they were exclusives. This launch lineup is Infamous: Second Son, Killzone Shadowfall, Knack, and Driveclub all over again.

I would wager, however, that games such as Elder Scrolls 6 and Starfield will end up on retrospective lists the next decade over. But yeah, nothing of ANY consequence is coming for either platform before 2022.

And there you have it since 5 years from now no one will talk about xbox launch games, it is ok to have a totally shitty line up, hell 20 years from now we wont talk about the series X much so why have a good line up the entire gen while your at it.

For real are you going to go there while the biggest name on the xbox launch list is this?

Even Resugun had a bigger score than this.

Also lets not forget the xbox one launch line up while it did have some exclusives most were terrible.

Not even Forza 5 was able to score a 80% in 2013.

Even Gears 5 is on that list how the fu** gears 5 is there? The game came 1 year ago and by the way it scored 82%, hell if MS can use Gears 5 as a damn launch game, damn sony can use Ghost of Tsushima, TLOU2 and FF7 remake that came in this year all higher rated than Gears 5 by the way.

How can't you see this?

Even i got freaking mad about sony's Spiderman shenanigans.

You know what the real sad part here is? That we see now very clear why MS was pushing backward compatibility with so much effort and shooting for the series X to enhance its games that is what you will play for some time now, 2001 doesn't look any better for the xbox, while the PS5 look freaking hot in 2021.

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#53 Moistcarrot
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I certainly hope you're not implying the ps5's is any better lol

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lol :P

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#55 NathanDrakeSwag
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@moistcarrot said:

I certainly hope you're not implying the ps5's is any better lol

Demons Souls and Miles Morales are certainly better than having literally nothing 😂🤣

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@Sagemode87 said:

@i_p_daily: You guys been free to bash Sony for weeks, need a tissue?

Why would i need a tissue as i destroyed the OP first post, this thread only exists to try and make himself feel better lol. They call these insecurity threads, cows are very good at them.

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@moistcarrot said:

I certainly hope you're not implying the ps5's is any better lol

"Any better" - I think it's pretty obvious that you're getting more games on PS5 than XSX at launch. And the games you're getting are not filler either, like some of the titles on XSX lol

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#58 blamix
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It was suppose to be Halo. But it looked like a PS2 game

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#59 Sevenizz
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Sony always has crappy launch titles. What has ever stood out by them? What even stands out next gen? A remake of a crappy souls niche game? The OG Xbox launched one of the strongest franchises in gaming history. Fantavision? Forgotten.

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@SolidGame_basic said:
@moistcarrot said:

I certainly hope you're not implying the ps5's is any better lol

"Any better" - I think it's pretty obvious that you're getting more games on PS5 than XSX at launch. And the games you're getting are not filler either, like some of the titles on XSX lol

Miles Morales & Astro's Playroom are the definition of filler lol

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#61  Edited By SolidGame_basic  Online
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@i_p_daily said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
@moistcarrot said:

I certainly hope you're not implying the ps5's is any better lol

"Any better" - I think it's pretty obvious that you're getting more games on PS5 than XSX at launch. And the games you're getting are not filler either, like some of the titles on XSX lol

Miles Morales & Astro's Playroom are the definition of filler lol

How are they filler? Astro's Playroom is a sequel to Astro Bot and is a free game that is already downloaded to the PS5. It was made specifically for the PS5. Miles Morales is one of the most anticipated games of the year. Meanwhile, I believe it was you who said MS moved Gears Tactics to launch just to give the system a game lol. And you also admitted that you don't have anything preordered. And you're SW's biggest Lem. So what does that mean when SW's biggest Lem isn't even that hyped for the XSX at launch?

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#62 speedytimsi
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I think both launch lineup are pretty bad. Xbox do have gamepass which you get all the old games. But if you have been a dedicated PC player that has their majority games on Steam gamepass is not overly appealing as 70% of games PC players probably played before at one point.

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#63 Effinae
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I'd be more interested in Gears Tactics than anything on the PS5. Spiderman looks like a game I'll pick up in a year for $10....maybe. It doesn't seem like a real sequel. Spiderman 1.5 with a different character.

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#64  Edited By Archangel3371
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@tormentos: Well what can I say. I get hyped for games that I think I’ll enjoy. I’d apologize if that triggers you so badly but that would make me a liar since I don’t really care. In fact it actually amuses me. 😅

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#65 Moistcarrot
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@moistcarrot said:

I certainly hope you're not implying the ps5's is any better lol

Demons Souls and Miles Morales are certainly better than having literally nothing 😂🤣

I mean I guess, but one is a cross gen game on ps4/ps5 and the other is a remake of an old game. Still nothing to write home about.

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#66 Gifford38
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@Juub1990 said:

What are the PS5's launch exclusives? Demon's Souls is on PS3 and Spider-Man is on PS4.

who cares if miles is ps4 game to. all of xbox first party until 2022 will be also for xbox one.

its still a game that you can buy on the ps5. but miles is much bigger game to launch with than gears tactic.

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#67 Chutebox
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@Sevenizz: a crappy souls game? Hilarious

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#68 Gifford38
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@sts106mat said:

technically it has around 4000 games available to play at launch, so err no

omg ok lets add 360 games and xbox original games as new games to play on the series x.

4000 games you can play now on xbox one.

so should sony add those 18 free ps plus games as launch titles? should sony add every game on the ps now as ps5 launch line up?

love how xbox fans are using old games as there launch line up.

if so we have god of war, bloodboorne, and every ps4 game to add to the ps5 launch line up.

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#69  Edited By Gifford38
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@i_p_daily said:

Gears Tactics

/thread

Mods you can lock it now.

so if you guys can use a game that is out already than every ps4 game is a ps5 launch title to.

so ps5 has god of war and bloodbourne etc. as a launch line up.

you guys also use gears 5. because its the only one game that has got a updated version for the series x. only one. but yet xbox fans saying every single gamepass game is going to get a free update.

so were are those updates? unless xbox is using boost mode as smart shift games.

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A launch line up of remakes, expansions and 3rd party games.

Very poor on both consoles and I'd argue its probably the worst line up ever on both platforms.

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#72 ocinom
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People who don't have a pc or can't afford to buy one will find XSX very appealing.

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#73 Gifford38
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@sts106mat said:
@gifford38 said:
@sts106mat said:

technically it has around 4000 games available to play at launch, so err no

omg ok lets add 360 games and xbox original games as new games to play on the series x.

4000 games you can play now on xbox one.

so should sony add those 18 free ps plus games as launch titles? should sony add every game on the ps now as ps5 launch line up?

love how xbox fans are using old games as there launch line up.

if so we have god of war, bloodboorne, and every ps4 game to add to the ps5 launch line up.

i am not using them as a launch line up, i said they are available to be played at launch which is a fact.

I dont know for sure what game i will be playing come launch, but it won't be ballsack boy or another remake / remaster i can tell you that.

so miles is a remake? demon souls looks like a whole new game. did you play it on the ps3? if not then its not a remake to you. its a new game.

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#74 Gifford38
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@tdkmillsy said:

A launch line up of remakes, expansions and 3rd party games.

Very poor on both consoles and I'd argue its probably the worst line up ever on both platforms.

you sure about that? here is the ps4 launch line up

Flower

Killzone Shadow Fall

Knack

Resogun

Sound Shapes

vs

miles

demon souls

atrobot

sackboy

godfall

destruction all stars

returnal

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@gifford38 said:

so miles is a remake? demon souls looks like a whole new game. did you play it on the ps3? if not then its not a remake to you. its a new game.

So, that means the Xbox Series X has more "new" games to play than the PS5 because if you haven't played the game its new. 😎

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#78 Pedro
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@SolidGame_basic said:
@moistcarrot said:

I certainly hope you're not implying the ps5's is any better lol

"Any better" - I think it's pretty obvious that you're getting more games on PS5 than XSX at launch. And the games you're getting are not filler either, like some of the titles on XSX lol

What games are the filler for the Series X? Keep in mind that they share 8 games and the difference in unique titles is 2.

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#79  Edited By Gifford38
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@sts106mat said:

@gifford38: so what you are saying is that if i didn't play demon souls on PS3, it counts as a new game.

if thats the case, then the 4000 games available on the series X count as new games to someone who hasn't played them.

/owned

it counts as a new game to that person. i never played demon souls on the ps3 so it is a new game for me.

and for the person that never played demon souls.

to them its a new ps5 game.

those 4000 games were not made on the series x dev kits.

were demon souls was made on the ps5 dev kits.

if Alan wake got a remake not remastered on the series x would it still be a 360 game? can you play the remake on the 360? no you can't. fact is demon souls remake is a new game for the ps5 made on there dev kits.

its not the ps3 version being played on the ps5. its the ps5 version being played on the ps5.

they changed the entire game. level design is all new. the characters models are new.

shadow of the colossus remake is the same thing. the remake can't be played on the ps3 or ps2.

its a remake for the ps4. remake and remasters are two different things.

I love remakes it gives you a updated look and feel. not just hd remaster bumps were the game still looks dated.

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#81 Gifford38
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@Pedro said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
@moistcarrot said:

I certainly hope you're not implying the ps5's is any better lol

"Any better" - I think it's pretty obvious that you're getting more games on PS5 than XSX at launch. And the games you're getting are not filler either, like some of the titles on XSX lol

What games are the filler for the Series X? Keep in mind that they share 8 games and the difference in unique titles is 2.

adding pc gear tactics and Tetris effect can be on gamepass now but xbox is waiting to do so to make the series x launch line up look better. make it look like there new games.

heck I can play tetris affect now on my psvr head set. why is it not on gamepass already or gears tactics?

fact is ps5 beats ps4 launch line up.

Flower

Killzone Shadow Fall

Knack

Resogun

Sound Shapes

were xbox one had

ryse

forza 5

dead rising 3

killer instinct

after seeing xbox one launch line up now what do you think of series x launch line up now?

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@sts106mat said:
@gifford38 said:
@sts106mat said:

@gifford38: so what you are saying is that if i didn't play demon souls on PS3, it counts as a new game.

if thats the case, then the 4000 games available on the series X count as new games to someone who hasn't played them.

/owned

it counts as a new game to that person. i never played demon souls on the ps3 so it is a new game for me.

and for the person that never played demon souls.

to them its a new ps5 game.

those 4000 games were not made on the series x dev kits.

were demon souls was made on the ps5 dev kits.

if Alan wake got a remake not remastered on the series x would it still be a 360 game? can you play the remake on the 360? no you can't. fact is demon souls remake is a new game for the ps5 made on there dev kits.

its not the ps3 version being played on the ps5. its the ps5 version being played on the ps5.

they changed the entire game. level design is all new. the characters models are new.

shadow of the colossus remake is the same thing. the remake can't be played on the ps3 or ps2.

its a remake for the ps4. remake and remasters are two different things.

I love remakes it gives you a updated look and feel. not just hd remaster bumps were the game still looks dated.

nice made up rules lol.

i am tired of remakes and remasters. not getting them anymore

so what remakes (not hd remasters) have you bought? games that are completely redone not a hd with the same out dated graphics.

mid evil?

shadow of the callouses?

which one?

hd remaster and remakes are two different things are they not?

remaster is just the same game like character models etc. in hd

remakes is a game done on the new hardware with updated textures, lighting, character models etc.

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#84 Pedro
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@gifford38: You really struggle with sticking to context. Nothing you stated has anything to do with my post.

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#85  Edited By Gifford38
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@sts106mat said:
@gifford38 said:
@sts106mat said:
@gifford38 said:
@sts106mat said:

@gifford38: so what you are saying is that if i didn't play demon souls on PS3, it counts as a new game.

if thats the case, then the 4000 games available on the series X count as new games to someone who hasn't played them.

/owned

it counts as a new game to that person. i never played demon souls on the ps3 so it is a new game for me.

and for the person that never played demon souls.

to them its a new ps5 game.

those 4000 games were not made on the series x dev kits.

were demon souls was made on the ps5 dev kits.

if Alan wake got a remake not remastered on the series x would it still be a 360 game? can you play the remake on the 360? no you can't. fact is demon souls remake is a new game for the ps5 made on there dev kits.

its not the ps3 version being played on the ps5. its the ps5 version being played on the ps5.

they changed the entire game. level design is all new. the characters models are new.

shadow of the colossus remake is the same thing. the remake can't be played on the ps3 or ps2.

its a remake for the ps4. remake and remasters are two different things.

I love remakes it gives you a updated look and feel. not just hd remaster bumps were the game still looks dated.

nice made up rules lol.

i am tired of remakes and remasters. not getting them anymore

so what remakes (not hd remasters) have you bought? games that are completely redone not a hd with the same out dated graphics.

mid evil?

shadow of the callouses?

which one?

hd remaster and remakes are two different things are they not?

remaster is just the same game like character models etc. in hd

remakes is a game done on the new hardware with updated textures, lighting, character models etc.

last one i bought was Crysis remastered and it is a disaster. its the straw that broke the camels back.

thank god bleupoint knows how to make a remake.

look at crash, shadow of the colossus, mid evil, uncharted 1-3, demon souls.

they were all great remakes.

not like mario 64, crysis, prince of persia sands of time. those are laugh able.

just buy bluepoint remakes you will be happy with there products.

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#87  Edited By Gifford38
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@Pedro said:

@gifford38: You really struggle with sticking to context. Nothing you stated has anything to do with my post.

because tetris effect and gear tactics are filler games. they can be out now but there holding them to fill in the series x launch titles.

just showing you the difference between filler games and real launch games.

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#88 Gifford38
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@sts106mat said:

@gifford38: i want to get new games, new IP's not remasters or remakes anymore. we've had enough of those this gen, it does not need to start all over again with the new gen.

new ip's? sony put out so many new ip's this gen on top of remakes.

hzd

day gones

dreams

nioh

death stranded

heck even god of war felt new

ghost

and so much more

plus remakes of games that i love like shadow and mid evil.

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#89 tormentos
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@Sevenizz said:

Sony always has crappy launch titles. What has ever stood out by them? What even stands out next gen? A remake of a crappy souls niche game? The OG Xbox launched one of the strongest franchises in gaming history. Fantavision? Forgotten.

  • Armored Core 2 (Agetec, Action)
  • DOA2: Hardcore (Tecmo, Fighting)
  • Dynasty Warriors 2 (Koei, Action)
  • ESPN International Track and Field (Konami, Sports)
  • ESPN X-Games Snowboarding (Konami, Sports)
  • Eternal Ring (Agetec, RPG)
  • Evergrace (Agetec, RPG)
  • FantaVision (SCEI, Puzzle)
  • Gun Griffon Blaze (Working Designs, Action)
  • Kessen (EA, Adventure)
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  • Moto GP (Namco, Racing)
  • NHL 2001 (EA, Sports)
  • Orphen (Activision, RPG)
  • Q-Ball Billiards Master (Take-Two Interactive, Simulation)
  • Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2 (Midway, Sports)
  • Ridge Racer V (Namco, Racing)
  • Silent Scope (Konami, Shooter)
  • Smuggler's Run (Rockstar, Racing-Adventure)
  • SSX (EA, Sports)
  • Street Fighter EX3 (Capcom, Fighting)
  • Summoner (THQ, RPG)
  • Swing Away (Paradise Golf in Japan) (EA, Sports)
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  • TimeSplitters (Eidos, First-Person Shooter)
  • Unreal Tournament (Infogrames, First-Person Shooter)
  • Wild Wild Racing (Interplay, Racing)
  • X-Squad (EA, Action)

This line up make the xbox series X launch look like total and utter dog shit.

By the way Souls is not as Niche as Gears Tactic which by the way scored 80 on PC while Demon soul scored 89% on PS3.😂😂😂

@i_p_daily said:

Miles Morales & Astro's Playroom are the definition of filler lol

So is Gears 5 and Gears tactics.

At least playroom is free for everyone.

@moistcarrot said:

I mean I guess, but one is a cross gen game on ps4/ps5 and the other is a remake of an old game. Still nothing to write home about.

Everything is cross gen on xbox so if you are going to downplay spiderman for it well the same apply to the xbox.

Destruction all start is exclusive as well like astros playroom.

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#90 tormentos
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@Pedro said:

What games are the filler for the Series X? Keep in mind that they share 8 games and the difference in unique titles is 2.

Gears is on PC and Tetris is a multiplayer mode to a game release on PS4 in 2018.that mode will arrive on PS and PC free latter on.

You just can't stand that the PS5 has better games is killing you.

@sts106mat said:

@gifford38: i want to get new games, new IP's not remasters or remakes anymore. we've had enough of those this gen, it does not need to start all over again with the new gen.

Then don't look at the xbox for that its strong point is backward compatibility.😂

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#91 lamprey263
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PS3 had worst launch line-up ever, don't think anything can top that.

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#92 NathanDrakeSwag
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@lamprey263 said:

PS3 had worst launch line-up ever, don't think anything can top that.

Resistance was a great game. One game is better than none.

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#93  Edited By Sagemode87
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@i_p_daily: what is there to be insecure about. Sony has better mindshare, more quality devs, will have more online players, more advanced controller, better looking games at launch. Stop labeling you guys getting owned as cow insecurity. Xbox is the Cleveland Browns of gaming.

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#94 Sagemode87
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Dreamcast, had the best launch lineup ever.

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#95 robert_sparkes
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The PS3 was horrific I only picked up motorstorm thinking back but this series X/S line is kind of light in terms of 1st party but still plenty to play.

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#96 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Sagemode87 said:

@i_p_daily: what is there to be insecure about. Sony has better mindshare, more quality devs, will have more online players, more advanced controller, better looking games at launch. Stop labeling you guys getting owned as cow insecurity. Xbox is the Cleveland Browns of gaming.

Agreed. Having the best exclusives and the biggest online community will make PS5 the best place to play.

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#98 lebanese_boy
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@Pedro said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

MS could've had an amazing launch with Halo Infinite, but unfortunately it was delayed.

One can argue FORTUNATELY it was delayed. 😉

As disappointing as that news was, I wholeheartedly agree.

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#99 Effinae
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@lebanese_boy said:
@Pedro said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

MS could've had an amazing launch with Halo Infinite, but unfortunately it was delayed.

One can argue FORTUNATELY it was delayed. 😉

As disappointing as that news was, I wholeheartedly agree.

I didn't really get the hate with the Halo trailer. Looked fine imo.

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#100 NathanDrakeSwag
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@effinae said:
@lebanese_boy said:
@Pedro said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

MS could've had an amazing launch with Halo Infinite, but unfortunately it was delayed.

One can argue FORTUNATELY it was delayed. 😉

As disappointing as that news was, I wholeheartedly agree.

I didn't really get the hate with the Halo trailer. Looked fine imo.

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