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#1 GoodContributor
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$499 PS3 has has HDMI plus Blue-Ray (most blue-ray players are $700).  Elite doesn't have HD-DVD.  So essentially you're paying a lot of dough for a black 360 premium with HDMI.  The bigger hardrive is another downfall, because you can buy a computer hard-drive and plug it in your PS3, no biggie.   With 360 it's not the same (it can done but you risk losing your xbox). 
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Why do I always get tricked into reading your posts... oh yeah, your username, right I remember now... Mind talking about games?
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lemmings in 3...2...1...
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#4 lazzordude
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the $500 ps3 is being discontinued by retailers
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#5 OhhSnap50893
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120 GB > 20 GB. At least, that's how my math works.
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#6 the-very-best
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The Elite is ridiculously overpriced I think. I still don't understand the logic behind releasing it. It makes the PS3 seem more attractive which I'm sure is something MS doesn't want.
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#7 grovestreet12
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??? Who cares? Its all about the games...
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#8 Shadow_op
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Do you know how big the Hard-Drive is for the Elite? Quiet then, mortal.
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#9 foxhound_fox
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But does it offer the same library of quality titles as the 360?
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I heard that the HDMI in the Elite may be inferior to the PS3s. I will have to do some investigating to get to the bottom of this.

 

 

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$499 PS3 has has HDMI plus Blue-Ray (most blue-ray players are $700). Elite doesn't have HD-DVD. So essentially you're paying a lot of dough for a black 360 premium with HDMI. The bigger hardrive is another downfall, because you can buy a computer hard-drive and plug it in your PS3, no biggie. With 360 it's not the same (it can done but you risk losing your xbox). GoodContributor
Have to pay for an HDMI cable Have to buy a bigger hard Drive + tax for both + the fact that only 20% of those PS3's exist in the world( that would be bout a 1.5 mil outta of the 6 mil shipped) Ur thread failed badly.
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#13 wiiforever25
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does it have all of the 360 games i love, no.
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But does it offer the same library of quality titles as the 360?foxhound_fox
Why do you people keep talking about quality games is better on 360? 5 months to 16 months. How the hell is that fair to say? Just give PS3 a full year ok?
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$499 PS3 has has HDMI plus Blue-Ray (most blue-ray players are $700). Elite doesn't have HD-DVD. So essentially you're paying a lot of dough for a black 360 premium with HDMI. The bigger hardrive is another downfall, because you can buy a computer hard-drive and plug it in your PS3, no biggie. With 360 it's not the same (it can done but you risk losing your xbox). GoodContributor

 

For once lets clear this up...  THE ONLY THING THE PS3 CAN DO THAT THE 360 CANNOT IS PLAY BLU-RAY MOVIES AT 1080P!  That is it, besides that the 360 does everything the PS3 does.   

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#16 piano_pimp
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both the elite and the ps3 are overpriced, but I do think the ps3 is a better deal hardware wise.
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#18 wiistation360
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since i dont have HDTV,bluray or HD-DVD is useless to me.so i care more about hard drive,and i will not forgive myself to buy a 20gb 360 for $400,while i can have a 120gb 360 for $480.i'll still get a slimline ps3 tho
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]But does it offer the same library of quality titles as the 360?shungokustasu
Why do you people keep talking about quality games is better on 360? 5 months to 16 months. How the hell is that fair to say? Just give PS3 a full year ok?

i agree with you,but that same logic did not stop cows from saying ps2 was better than the xbox
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I heard that the HDMI in the Elite may be inferior to the PS3s. I will have to do some investigating to get to the bottom of this.

 

 

Nike_Air

That is BS. :lol: It's only an interface how could it be inferior. That is saying my DVI is inferior because I am using an ATI videocard instead of a Nvidia videocard.

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#21 Microsoft1234
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blu-ray whats that
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#22 squirrel337
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you can't get the 20GB model anymore.
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#23 Redfingers
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[QUOTE="Shadow_op"]Do you know how big the Hard-Drive is for the Elite? Quiet then, mortal.

In three years, when I run out of space on my 60 gig (unlikely), I will buy a 200 or maybe 300 gig hard drive. Shush. I'm not kidding, just shush. Or dip your head in water. You still don't have an HD format or free internet, so you have absolutely nothing on us. Plus, no Wi-fi, but that's another thing.
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

I heard that the HDMI in the Elite may be inferior to the PS3s. I will have to do some investigating to get to the bottom of this.

 

 

PS3_3DO

That is BS. :lol: It's only an interface how could it be inferior. That is saying my DVI is inferior because I am using an ATI videocard instead of a Nvidia videocard.

Actually.. it is inferior on the 360. The elite only supports HDMI 1.2 while the PS3 supports HDMI 1.3 

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#25 l_The_DetoX_l
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120 GB > 20 GB. At least, that's how my math works.OhhSnap50893

Anything you want for whatever price you can find > 120. That's how mine works. 

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#26 ironwarrior2
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you can't get the 20GB model anymore. squirrel337

I just came from Sams club, 20 gig PS3 with extra controller for $540.  The same thing I got.

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$499 PS3 still lacks HDMI cable and Headset which is included with 360 Elite. So add another $40 on top of the hardware costs.
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#28 rocktimusprime
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$499 PS3 has has HDMI plus Blue-Ray (most blue-ray players are $700). Elite doesn't have HD-DVD. So essentially you're paying a lot of dough for a black 360 premium with HDMI. The bigger hardrive is another downfall, because you can buy a computer hard-drive and plug it in your PS3, no biggie. With 360 it's not the same (it can done but you risk losing your xbox). GoodContributor
you do know that you can't get the 20 gb model any more..they stopped it...
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#29 rocktimusprime
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$499 PS3 still lacks HDMI cable and Headset which is included with 360 Elite. So add another $40 on top of the hardware costs.rexoverbey
its 70 for the HDMI cable
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[QUOTE="rexoverbey"]$499 PS3 still lacks HDMI cable and Headset which is included with 360 Elite. So add another $40 on top of the hardware costs.rocktimusprime
its 70 for the HDMI cable

You can get a hdmi cable for less than 20  :|

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And they say lemmings have taken on the damage control lately when I still am seeing unintelligent posts like this popping up.

 

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[QUOTE="GoodContributor"]$499 PS3 has has HDMI plus Blue-Ray (most blue-ray players are $700). Elite doesn't have HD-DVD. So essentially you're paying a lot of dough for a black 360 premium with HDMI. The bigger hardrive is another downfall, because you can buy a computer hard-drive and plug it in your PS3, no biggie. With 360 it's not the same (it can done but you risk losing your xbox). rocktimusprime
you do know that you can't get the 20 gb model any more..they stopped it...

Someone show me a link on this, I just came from a store selling 20 gig PS3s.  :?

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#33 squirrel337
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[QUOTE="squirrel337"]you can't get the 20GB model anymore. ironwarrior2

I just came from Sams club, 20 gig PS3 with extra controller for $540. The same thing I got.

Funny thats not what their site told me. http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate.do?catg=8312
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[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="GoodContributor"]$499 PS3 has has HDMI plus Blue-Ray (most blue-ray players are $700). Elite doesn't have HD-DVD. So essentially you're paying a lot of dough for a black 360 premium with HDMI. The bigger hardrive is another downfall, because you can buy a computer hard-drive and plug it in your PS3, no biggie. With 360 it's not the same (it can done but you risk losing your xbox). ironwarrior2

you do know that you can't get the 20 gb model any more..they stopped it...

Someone show me a link on this, I just came from a store selling 20 gig PS3s. :?

havent seen one since decemeber in any store, our store was told that we would not receive any more, and that any that are still out there are left overs....ps3 sold great eh
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$499 PS3 has has HDMI plus Blue-Ray (most blue-ray players are $700).  Elite doesn't have HD-DVD.  So essentially you're paying a lot of dough for a black 360 premium with HDMI.  The bigger hardrive is another downfall, because you can buy a computer hard-drive and plug it in your PS3, no biggie.   With 360 it's not the same (it can done but you risk losing your xbox).  GoodContributor

there is a saying that you get what you pay for
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#36 asdasd
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[QUOTE="rexoverbey"]$499 PS3 still lacks HDMI cable and Headset which is included with 360 Elite. So add another $40 on top of the hardware costs.rocktimusprime
its 70 for the HDMI cable

Anyone who pays 70 bucks for a HDMI cable is a !@#$ing moron. End of story. Its a digital signal, either it works or it doesnt. I got one for my PS3 for 8 bucks shipped and it works perfectly. 

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#37 solidsnakeo
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hmm i could get a ps3 for 500 {if i can still find oneof them} or i could get a 360 for 400 you seem to forget that there are 3 models of 360 and there are two models of ps3 with the cheaper one being discontinued soon so if im a gamer and buy consoles to play games why would i want a ps3 that is overpriced and has about 30-40 games released so far if i could get a 360 with more games
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#38 DanBal76
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The only thing that it offers more is the Blu-Ray player, and that doesn't interest me. Hell, not even the hdmi output and the 120 GB HDD of the Xbox 360 Elite interest me. BTW, yes, i do have an HDTV, and one with hdmi imput. I'm using my 360 with the vga imput, and that's fine for me. I'll use my HDTV hdmi imput when i buy a PS3. 120 GB HDD? I'm just fine with my 20 GB HDD, because i don't download movies from the video marketplace, and in the future i can buy just the HDD anyway, and not the whole Elite package.
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120 GB > 20 GB. At least, that's how my math works.OhhSnap50893

 

Well, if you want to talk about hard drives, then 89.00 > 180.00 for a 120GB HDD. As you can buy ANY SATA laptop drive, by ANY maker in order to upgrade your PS3, and it will not void your warranty. I bought a Toshiba 120GB for my 20 GB (now 120GB) PS3 for 89.00 at newegg.com.

Now, you consider all of the early adopters (I am one, as I own a premium 360 as well) that may want a larger HDD, but of course do not want to shell out the dough for the Elite. They will only have the option (gee, how considerate) of buying a Microsoft HDD for 180.00, which will bring their total 360 investment to 580.00....still without HDMI or an HDDVD drive.....WHAT A DEAL, LOL.

Now, according to my math, THAT is where the rip-off lies....the early adopters getting screwed if they want to "upgrade", lol. "But gee, Microsoft is just giving us more options"....PLEEEEAASSEEEE.:lol: I do not know whether to laugh, cry, puke....or all three at the same time. 

 

 

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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

I heard that the HDMI in the Elite may be inferior to the PS3s. I will have to do some investigating to get to the bottom of this.

 

 

asdasd

That is BS. :lol: It's only an interface how could it be inferior. That is saying my DVI is inferior because I am using an ATI videocard instead of a Nvidia videocard.

Actually.. it is inferior on the 360. The elite only supports HDMI 1.2 while the PS3 supports HDMI 1.3 

And you know this how? Got a link? :|

 

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[QUOTE="OhhSnap50893"]120 GB > 20 GB. At least, that's how my math works.ironcreed

 

Well, if you want to talk about hard drives, then 89.00 > 180.00 for a 120GB HDD. As you can buy ANY SATA laptop drive, by ANY maker in order to upgrade your PS3, and it will not void your warranty. I bought a Toshiba 120GB for my 20 GB (now 120GB) PS3 for 89.00 at newegg.com.

Now, you consider all of the early adopters (I am one, as I own a premium 360 as well) that may want a larger HDD, but of course do not want to shell out the dough for the Elite. They will only have the option (gee, how considerate) of buying a Microsoft HDD for 180.00, which will bring their total 360 investment to 580.00....still without HDMI or an HDDVD drive.....WHAT A DEAL, LOL.

Now, according to my math, THAT is where the rip-off lies....the early adoptyers getting screwed if they want to "upgrade", lol. "But gee, Microsoft is just giving us more options"....PLEEEEAASSEEEE.:lol: I do not know whether to laugh, cry, puke....or all three at the same time. 

 

 

Puke.  Just puke.  It's disgusting that MS wants to rip people off so bad.

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#42 asdasd
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[QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

I heard that the HDMI in the Elite may be inferior to the PS3s. I will have to do some investigating to get to the bottom of this.

 

 

PS3_3DO

That is BS. :lol: It's only an interface how could it be inferior. That is saying my DVI is inferior because I am using an ATI videocard instead of a Nvidia videocard.

Actually.. it is inferior on the 360. The elite only supports HDMI 1.2 while the PS3 supports HDMI 1.3

And you know this how? Got a link? :|

 

Ask and you shall receive. 

"the Elite will also offer a separate port for HDMI (high-definition multimedia interface) output (compatible with v1.2)"

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One of the biggest complaints about the 360 elite is that there's no wifi....I don't know for a fact but does the 499 PS3 have Wifi? Serious question. I don't know.
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#44 4X6X9
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i dont know how u guys keep saying the Elite is over price. its the same sh** as Primuim with HDMI and 120GB with a charger. 20gb = $100 6 20gb = 120gb = $600 129gb ( by itself ) = $170 Elite comes with the 120gb with only $80 more then the primuim. i dont know how its over price one bit and whoever says that it cant compare with the ps3 $600 i dont know how u could say that with a serious face. it gots way more stuff then the PS3. so what about no HD DVD or Blue ray. Im not going to whach Movies or Videos on my 360 when its ment for games. ill just download it on the MarketPlace if i want to ( key word "if" )
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

I heard that the HDMI in the Elite may be inferior to the PS3s. I will have to do some investigating to get to the bottom of this.

 

 

asdasd

That is BS. :lol: It's only an interface how could it be inferior. That is saying my DVI is inferior because I am using an ATI videocard instead of a Nvidia videocard.

Actually.. it is inferior on the 360. The elite only supports HDMI 1.2 while the PS3 supports HDMI 1.3

And you know this how? Got a link? :|

 

Ask and you shall receive. 

"the Elite will also offer a separate port for HDMI (high-definition multimedia interface) output (compatible with v1.2)"

Ok so if I have a HDTV with 1.3 HDMI will it work with the Elite? Also I wonder why MS couldn't get 1.3 does Sony own that or something? :?

 

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One of the biggest complaints about the 360 elite is that there's no wifi....I don't know for a fact but does the 499 PS3 have Wifi? Serious question. I don't know.fatzombiepigeon


No. It does not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3#System_configuration
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[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"]One of the biggest complaints about the 360 elite is that there's no wifi....I don't know for a fact but does the 499 PS3 have Wifi? Serious question. I don't know.foxhound_fox


No. It does not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ps3#System_configuration[/QUOTE]

Wow. So I guess the whole price comparison between Elite and Core PS3 just got a lot harder???

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#48 poovine
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The 360 could be the same price as the 60 gig PS3 but still be superior in my book because of it's game library. This is coming from a predominantly PC guy.
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#49 rocktimusprime
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One of the biggest complaints about the 360 elite is that there's no wifi....I don't know for a fact but does the 499 PS3 have Wifi? Serious question. I don't know.fatzombiepigeon
No, it doesnt.
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#50 mark4091
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Yeah they forgot one thing though...... I think it's called games...yeah infact thats what I buy consoles for, but I guess system wars buys consoles for extra memory and high definition videos that don't even look that great.