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[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]Isn't the $500 PS3 being discontinued?
dracolich666
yes it has
WTH! Ok well then im not buying a PS3 for years to come, im NOT paying $600.
pretty much my manager said it didnt sell so we dont carry it. and i just check walmart dosent have it.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/17/best-buy-done-with-ps3-20gb/
another fun lie from sony
[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="iamtheonlynem"]why is 20gb ps3 disconntinued? i find them in ksa!iamtheonlynem
lets see NO ONE BUYS THEM
lol k.. here both 60 gb n 20gb versions are available abundantly in stores. But so far the sales of ps3 here too r less as compared to that of x360.pictures and what stores
Beacuse i know for a fact walmart, best buy, gamestop (eb is gamestop) circit city do not have them and disconntinued
No offense but I think a lot of you people are forgetting something here.
People don't buy consoles for this stuff.
Honestly, and also you guys talk, not all of you but many, like the PS3 and 360 are the same brand and have different hardware.
Each company has different things to offer as far as games and games is what makes you buy or not buy a system along with price depending on what you can afford price may come first.
I mean I bought my 360 in November on the PS3 launch day here in Canada and went with the 360 because of games like and there were shyte load of them IMO and I know they were out longer but even future games made me pick 360 like Halo 3 which I have to play, Mass Effect, Fable. And many shooters and IMO the Xbox has always done shooters better then any other console.
Ofcourse Sony has a year difference behind the 360 but even still ahead at looking at games the only ones I want are MGS4, Killzone2 and maybe Heavenly Swords maybe if it's good. As far as shooters that are multiplat again I don't think of them as better on the PS3 so games like Brothers in Arms, Half-Life2:OB etc... will be better IMO on the 360.
It's all about the games first people not HDMI and HDTV. I mean honestly the crap you guys talk about in graphics don't change peoples opinion. I mean the Wii proves all this graphics talk won't make people buy your console. It's about the games.
And the fact that the 360 has digusting hardware problems but still sells well before it's champion game Halo is released proves how good their software and online and overall console experience really is.
Also I'd like to add stuff like DMC4 and whatever games going multiplay are bigger things to consumers then Wifi or HDMI.
The Elite is for a specific group of people.
And stop pretend Cows, the PS3 20GB is slowly being phased out quietly and is harder and harder to find. Just because a couple of people come on here saying I saw four doesn't mean anything lol I mean "InfamousC" told a poster to buy one on Ebay which is hilarious. Personally I want a 20GB PS3 not a 60GB.
[QUOTE="iamtheonlynem"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="iamtheonlynem"]why is 20gb ps3 disconntinued? i find them in ksa!wavebrid
lets see NO ONE BUYS THEM
lol k.. here both 60 gb n 20gb versions are available abundantly in stores. But so far the sales of ps3 here too r less as compared to that of x360.pictures and what stores
Beacuse i know for a fact walmart, best buy, gamestop (eb is gamestop) circit city do not have them and disconntinued
Yeah same over here in Canada. can't find them hardly anyone except for a few here or there people are getting rid of off their shelves maybe
[QUOTE="dracolich666"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]Isn't the $500 PS3 being discontinued?
wavebrid
yes it has
WTH! Ok well then im not buying a PS3 for years to come, im NOT paying $600.
pretty much my manager said it didnt sell so we dont carry it. and i just check walmart dosent have it.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/17/best-buy-done-with-ps3-20gb/
another fun lie from sony
It's not discontinued officially but fanboys are acting like it's still widely available and using the fact that they or their friend saw one as proof lol
$499 PS3 has has HDMI plus Blue-Ray (most blue-ray players are $700). Elite doesn't have HD-DVD. So essentially you're paying a lot of dough for a black 360 premium with HDMI. The bigger hardrive is another downfall, because you can buy a computer hard-drive and plug it in your PS3, no biggie. With 360 it's not the same (it can done but you risk losing your xbox). GoodContributorIf by "more" you mean being forced to chose sides this early in a format war...
[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="dracolich666"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"]Isn't the $500 PS3 being discontinued?
kcpp2b
yes it has
WTH! Ok well then im not buying a PS3 for years to come, im NOT paying $600.
pretty much my manager said it didnt sell so we dont carry it. and i just check walmart dosent have it.
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/03/17/best-buy-done-with-ps3-20gb/
another fun lie from sony
It's not discontinued officially but fanboys are acting like it's still widely available and using the fact that they or their friend saw one as proof lol
well i find something cool.
"PS3 vs. Elite
Supposedly the Xbox 360 Elite has the answer in how to top the massive PlayStation 3, but let me get to the point.
1.) Is the PS3 totally inferior to the Elite? In what ways?
2.) Is the PS3 better in any way at all?
3) Can you predict if the PS3 will come out with a white or silver system (the ones we saw at E3) that will top the 360 Elite?
Thanks, and by the way, I envy you guys.
--Richard
Ah yes, the new Xbox 360 Elite -- let's get to business.
1.) In terms of what you get straight out of the box... yes, the PS3 is inferior because the Elite comes with a 120GB hard drive and the PS3 has only a 60GB. However, the PS3 is compatible with any serial ATA HDD device, so you could easily purchase a 120GB HDD of your own and install it to the PS3 if you choose (plus, you can get them for a hell of lot cheaper than the proposed $180 it costs to buy a 120GB HDD made specifically for the 360).
2.) This is a question I always hate to answer because it's such fanboy fuel. Both systems have advantages over the other in different areas, so it's pointless to try winning this pissing contest all the time. As your faithful mailbag guy, though, I will point out at least one way in which the system is superior -- it has Blu-ray, which can hold a lot more data than a standard DVD disc can.
3.) I do think you'll see other system colors yes. But how long before we'll get those alternate colors is hard to say. I wouldn't be surprised, however, if we saw at least one alternate color available in the next year or so.
--Jerem "
ok so if ign ps3 site comapres it to the 60 one i can assume 20 one is pretty much done with
http://ps3.ign.com/mail/
[QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="iamtheonlynem"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="iamtheonlynem"]why is 20gb ps3 disconntinued? i find them in ksa!kcpp2b
lets see NO ONE BUYS THEM
lol k.. here both 60 gb n 20gb versions are available abundantly in stores. But so far the sales of ps3 here too r less as compared to that of x360.pictures and what stores
Beacuse i know for a fact walmart, best buy, gamestop (eb is gamestop) circit city do not have them and disconntinued
Yeah same over here in Canada. can't find them hardly anyone except for a few here or there people are getting rid of off their shelves maybe
hm.. u need pictures? havent u read that i found them in KSA i.e. kingdom of saudi arabia. M not sure when i m gonna go next to these shops but when i do i will try my best to take pics cuz here its quite difficult to take pictures in public places .. But since the guy knows me well i may be able to take pictures i hope. If u guys still want pics then please send me a message o that i can remember to do so. Thanks alot!And another thing as far as the format wars go....
Blu-Ray will probably win, I thought it would way before the 360 even launched but ya know I think it is still dumb to use it as a reason it sells systems. First off people don't buy gaming consoles with that in mind, a rare percent do if any.
And honestly the format war isn't over and probably won't be for a year or two.
Don't forget Beta beat out VHS the first year it their release but VHS went on to win. Not saying that means anything but it is proof that you can't declaire a winner this early which is why it is smart for MS not do dedicate any format to their console before a winner is made. Kind of common sense IMO but Sony did it because they are a part of the BR format and are using it to push their own format.
Sony did the same thing with DVD even though DVD wasn't their format, they just decided to join forced with DVD and scrap their own format or whatever at the team and work as a team with DVD with some fixes here and there of their own approval
[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="iamtheonlynem"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="iamtheonlynem"]why is 20gb ps3 disconntinued? i find them in ksa!iamtheonlynem
lets see NO ONE BUYS THEM
lol k.. here both 60 gb n 20gb versions are available abundantly in stores. But so far the sales of ps3 here too r less as compared to that of x360.pictures and what stores
Beacuse i know for a fact walmart, best buy, gamestop (eb is gamestop) circit city do not have them and disconntinued
Yeah same over here in Canada. can't find them hardly anyone except for a few here or there people are getting rid of off their shelves maybe
hm.. u need pictures? havent u read that i found them in KSA i.e. kingdom of saudi arabia. M not sure when i m gonna go next to these shops but when i do i will try my best to take pics cuz here its quite difficult to take pictures in public places .. But since the guy knows me well i may be able to take pictures i hope. If u guys still want pics then please send me a message o that i can remember to do so. Thanks alot!look i found a ps4 see how that works. you can lie like that
[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="OhhSnap50893"]120 GB > 20 GB. At least, that's how my math works.xBALOx
ok, let's help your math then: $480 for more 100 GB, or only pay $20 more to have Bluetooth, Blu-Ray, Linux, web browsing and free online play?
dont even try, thats as far as they go, anything with more than 3 numbers is too hard for em.
true...
oh yeah! forgot to list Home back there!
[QUOTE="xBALOx"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="OhhSnap50893"]120 GB > 20 GB. At least, that's how my math works.SambaLele
ok, let's help your math then: $480 for more 100 GB, or only pay $20 more to have Bluetooth, Blu-Ray, Linux, web browsing and free online play?
dont even try, thats as far as they go, anything with more than 3 numbers is too hard for em.
true...
oh yeah! forgot to list Home back there!
You could throw in a donkey, I'd still pick the 360 right now which is why I bought a premium
[QUOTE="iamtheonlynem"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="iamtheonlynem"][QUOTE="wavebrid"][QUOTE="iamtheonlynem"]why is 20gb ps3 disconntinued? i find them in ksa!wavebrid
lets see NO ONE BUYS THEM
lol k.. here both 60 gb n 20gb versions are available abundantly in stores. But so far the sales of ps3 here too r less as compared to that of x360.pictures and what stores
Beacuse i know for a fact walmart, best buy, gamestop (eb is gamestop) circit city do not have them and disconntinued
Yeah same over here in Canada. can't find them hardly anyone except for a few here or there people are getting rid of off their shelves maybe
hm.. u need pictures? havent u read that i found them in KSA i.e. kingdom of saudi arabia. M not sure when i m gonna go next to these shops but when i do i will try my best to take pics cuz here its quite difficult to take pictures in public places .. But since the guy knows me well i may be able to take pictures i hope. If u guys still want pics then please send me a message o that i can remember to do so. Thanks alot!look i found a ps4 see how that works. you can lie like that
U seriously have no idea of what i m saying.. anyhow as i told message me.. cuz now m gonna sleep as here its 1:20 am n i need to go skool tomorrow. But m saying for the last time, there is 20gb model here. n then i dont care if u believe it or not , its upto u.[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="xBALOx"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="OhhSnap50893"]120 GB > 20 GB. At least, that's how my math works.kcpp2b
ok, let's help your math then: $480 for more 100 GB, or only pay $20 more to have Bluetooth, Blu-Ray, Linux, web browsing and free online play?
dont even try, thats as far as they go, anything with more than 3 numbers is too hard for em.
true...
oh yeah! forgot to list Home back there!
You could throw in a donkey, I'd still pick the 360 right now which is why I bought a premium
congrats. we're not talking about personal preferences and taste, only math, value specifically.
I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible
PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite
HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1
Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2
Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2
Included chargecable Yes No 2-2
Included headset No Yes 2-3
Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3
Total price 500 480 3-4
Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package
this is only how I see it though
$499 PS3 has has HDMI plus Blue-Ray (most blue-ray players are $700). Elite doesn't have HD-DVD. So essentially you're paying a lot of dough for a black 360 premium with HDMI. The bigger hardrive is another downfall, because you can buy a computer hard-drive and plug it in your PS3, no biggie. With 360 it's not the same (it can done but you risk losing your xbox). GoodContributorThe 20GB PS3 is being phased out. The Elite is $479 has a 120GB hdd and includes HDMI and HDMI cables. So its $120 less than PS3 with 2x the hdd space and includes hdmi cables in the box.
i think that the Elite was and is a bad move from MS...whats the big difference between Premium and Elite ?
100 GB HDD and HDMI...what esle ?? black finish ?...naaa is not that much difference...
many people will decline for a PS3 because the difference is only 20 bucks...and its said that 20GB ps3s
where disconntinued..with the elite being 20 bucks cheaper, maybe they will start producing them again...
and btw..i am a lemming, proud owner of a XBOX360 :P !!!!
I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible
PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite
HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1
Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2
Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2
Included chargecable Yes No 2-2
Included headset No Yes 2-3
Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3
Total price 500 480 3-4
Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package
this is only how I see it though
ZimpanX
dude the elite does includes the....play and charge kit..so its 5-3..winner..Elite :P
[QUOTE="ZimpanX"]I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible
PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite
HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1
Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2
Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2
Included chargecable Yes No 2-2
Included headset No Yes 2-3
Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3
Total price 500 480 3-4
Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package
this is only how I see it though
Ipik_Fenris
dude the elite does includes the....play and charge kit..so its 5-3..winner..Elite :P
It does?
And the 20GB version is being phased out atleast with retailers just about everywhere so you should have done the 60GB version. Even one of the biggest cows on here told someone to go on Ebay to get one lol
I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible
PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite
HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1
Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2
Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2
Included chargecable Yes No 2-2
Included headset No Yes 2-3
Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3
Total price 500 480 3-4
Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package
this is only how I see it though
ZimpanX
Why are you comparing the core PS3 to the 360 Elite? If you want to compare cores, PS3 wins hands down (except in price). Also, I don't find this comparison is very accurate because it's not weighted properly (ie headset, which you can get anywhere for cheap, is less than Blu-Ray, which should be worth more points). I like using money comparisons better than points.
I'm going to repeat what you said, except put a price tag on it. Also, I'm adding Wi-Fi as a factor because I'm going to compare the top SKUs.
What 360 is missing: HD movie playback ($200), charge cable ($20), free online ($50), Wi-Fi ($100). Total price of 360's missing peripherals: $370. 360 Elite + peripherals = $850
What PS3 is missing: 120GB HDD ($120; although, 60GB is enough), HDMI ($50 or much less on monoprice.com), Bluetooth headset (~$50). Total price of missing PS3 peripherals: $100 if you like the hard drive just fine. PS3 + peripherals = $700
In the end, PS3 is a much better value price wise (even if you buy a bigger hard drive).
If they end up adding an Hd-DVD drive to the new 360 elite it will be MS downfall. Unless they can make it cheaper than both PS3s. If not then people will just buy one of the two PS3s. This article also seems very interesting.
http://xbox360.qj.net/Michael-Pachter-360-Elite-validates-Sony-s-initial-strategy-/pg/49/aid/87851
If they end up adding an Hd-DVD drive to the new 360 elite it will be MS downfall. Unless they can make it cheaper than both PS3s. If not then people will just buy one of the two PS3s. This article also seems very interesting. http://xbox360.qj.net/Michael-Pachter-360-Elite-validates-Sony-s-initial-strategy-/pg/49/aid/87851Killfox
[QUOTE="ZimpanX"]I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible
PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite
HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1
Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2
Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2
Included chargecable Yes No 2-2
Included headset No Yes 2-3
Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3
Total price 500 480 3-4
Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package
this is only how I see it though
WARRZONE
Why are you comparing the core PS3 to the 360 Elite? If you want to compare cores, PS3 wins hands down (except in price). Also, I don't find this comparison is very accurate because it's not weighted properly (ie headset, which you can get anywhere for cheap, is less than Blu-Ray, which should be worth more points). I like using money comparisons better than points.
I'm going to repeat what you said, except put a price tag on it. Also, I'm adding Wi-Fi as a factor because I'm going to compare the top SKUs.
What 360 is missing: HD movie playback ($200), charge cable ($20), free online ($50), Wi-Fi ($100). Total price of 360's missing peripherals: $370. 360 Elite + peripherals = $850
What PS3 is missing: 120GB HDD ($120; although, 60GB is enough), HDMI ($50 or much less on monoprice.com), Bluetooth headset (~$50). Total price of missing PS3 peripherals: $100 if you like the hard drive just fine. PS3 + peripherals = $700
In the end, PS3 is a much better value price wise (even if you buy a bigger hard drive).
Um...the charge cable comes with the elite, and u dont need wifi...and i brought my system for games.... so elite= 530 ps3=700 so
[QUOTE="Killfox"]If they end up adding an Hd-DVD drive to the new 360 elite it will be MS downfall. Unless they can make it cheaper than both PS3s. If not then people will just buy one of the two PS3s. This article also seems very interesting. http://xbox360.qj.net/Michael-Pachter-360-Elite-validates-Sony-s-initial-strategy-/pg/49/aid/87851WARRZONE
MS is not making a BD Drive...The same guy at avsforum.com (amir who works for MS/HD-DVD division) that confirmed the 360 won't output lossless audio, also laughed at the notion of MS ever releasing a BD drive
[QUOTE="ZimpanX"]I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible
PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite
HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1
Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2
Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2
Included chargecable Yes No 2-2
Included headset No Yes 2-3
Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3
Total price 500 480 3-4
Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package
this is only how I see it though
WARRZONE
Why are you comparing the core PS3 to the 360 Elite? If you want to compare cores, PS3 wins hands down (except in price). Also, I don't find this comparison is very accurate because it's not weighted properly (ie headset, which you can get anywhere for cheap, is less than Blu-Ray, which should be worth more points). I like using money comparisons better than points.
I'm going to repeat what you said, except put a price tag on it. Also, I'm adding Wi-Fi as a factor because I'm going to compare the top SKUs.
What 360 is missing: HD movie playback ($200), charge cable ($20), free online ($50), Wi-Fi ($100). Total price of 360's missing peripherals: $370. 360 Elite + peripherals = $850
What PS3 is missing: 120GB HDD ($120; although, 60GB is enough), HDMI ($50 or much less on monoprice.com), Bluetooth headset (~$50). Total price of missing PS3 peripherals: $100 if you like the hard drive just fine. PS3 + peripherals = $700
In the end, PS3 is a much better value price wise (even if you buy a bigger hard drive).
You don't have to get the official USB WiFi adaptor from MS...You can pick up any USB Wifi adaptor, it's only $12 dollars online.
ALso since you included the HD-DVD drive for the 360 that means you now have to include a movie and a BD remote for the PS3, since the HD-DVD drive comes with both...
Oh yeah, and did i mention the Elite 360 upscales DVD's up to 1080p via HDMI? Add another $100 dollars for the PS3..
[QUOTE="WARRZONE"][QUOTE="ZimpanX"]I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible
PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite
HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1
Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2
Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2
Included chargecable Yes No 2-2
Included headset No Yes 2-3
Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3
Total price 500 480 3-4
Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package
this is only how I see it though
killaj2786
Why are you comparing the core PS3 to the 360 Elite? If you want to compare cores, PS3 wins hands down (except in price). Also, I don't find this comparison is very accurate because it's not weighted properly (ie headset, which you can get anywhere for cheap, is less than Blu-Ray, which should be worth more points). I like using money comparisons better than points.
I'm going to repeat what you said, except put a price tag on it. Also, I'm adding Wi-Fi as a factor because I'm going to compare the top SKUs.
What 360 is missing: HD movie playback ($200), charge cable ($20), free online ($50), Wi-Fi ($100). Total price of 360's missing peripherals: $370. 360 Elite + peripherals = $850
What PS3 is missing: 120GB HDD ($120; although, 60GB is enough), HDMI ($50 or much less on monoprice.com), Bluetooth headset (~$50). Total price of missing PS3 peripherals: $100 if you like the hard drive just fine. PS3 + peripherals = $700
In the end, PS3 is a much better value price wise (even if you buy a bigger hard drive).
Um...the charge cable comes with the elite, and u dont need wifi...and i brought my system for games.... so elite= 530 ps3=700 so I took took the guy's word above that the Elite did not come with charge cables, so just subtract $20. I said PS3 is a better value price wise because you get more things included. I need Wi-Fi, as do many other people, because my router is in a different room. I also enjoy watching movies in HD and not having to buy a quality $800 Blu-Ray player for that.[QUOTE="WARRZONE"][QUOTE="ZimpanX"]I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible
PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite
HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1
Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2
Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2
Included chargecable Yes No 2-2
Included headset No Yes 2-3
Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3
Total price 500 480 3-4
Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package
this is only how I see it though
m3Boarder32
Why are you comparing the core PS3 to the 360 Elite? If you want to compare cores, PS3 wins hands down (except in price). Also, I don't find this comparison is very accurate because it's not weighted properly (ie headset, which you can get anywhere for cheap, is less than Blu-Ray, which should be worth more points). I like using money comparisons better than points.
I'm going to repeat what you said, except put a price tag on it. Also, I'm adding Wi-Fi as a factor because I'm going to compare the top SKUs.
What 360 is missing: HD movie playback ($200), free online ($50), Wi-Fi ($100). Total price of 360's missing peripherals: $350. 360 Elite + peripherals = $830
What PS3 is missing: 120GB HDD ($120; although, 60GB is enough), HDMI ($50 or much less on monoprice.com), Bluetooth headset (~$50). Total price of missing PS3 peripherals: $100 if you like the hard drive just fine. PS3 + peripherals = $700
In the end, PS3 is a much better value price wise (even if you buy a bigger hard drive).
You don't have to get the official USB WiFi adaptor from MS...You can pick up any USB Wifi adaptor, it's only $12 dollars online.
ALso since you included the HD-DVD drive for the 360 that means you now have to include a movie and a BD remote for the PS3, since the HD-DVD drive comes with both...
Oh yeah, and did i mention the Elite 360 upscales DVD's up to 1080p via HDMI? Add another $100 dollars for the PS3..
I kept the HDMI cable at $50 (Sony brand), so I'll keep the Wi-Fi at $100. Ok, Blu-Ray remote ($25). Elite + peripherals = $830 PS3 + peripherals = $725[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="WARRZONE"][QUOTE="ZimpanX"]I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible
PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite
HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1
Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2
Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2
Included chargecable Yes No 2-2
Included headset No Yes 2-3
Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3
Total price 500 480 3-4
Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package
this is only how I see it though
WARRZONE
Why are you comparing the core PS3 to the 360 Elite? If you want to compare cores, PS3 wins hands down (except in price). Also, I don't find this comparison is very accurate because it's not weighted properly (ie headset, which you can get anywhere for cheap, is less than Blu-Ray, which should be worth more points). I like using money comparisons better than points.
I'm going to repeat what you said, except put a price tag on it. Also, I'm adding Wi-Fi as a factor because I'm going to compare the top SKUs.
What 360 is missing: HD movie playback ($200), free online ($50), Wi-Fi ($100). Total price of 360's missing peripherals: $350. 360 Elite + peripherals = $830
What PS3 is missing: 120GB HDD ($120; although, 60GB is enough), HDMI ($50 or much less on monoprice.com), Bluetooth headset (~$50). Total price of missing PS3 peripherals: $100 if you like the hard drive just fine. PS3 + peripherals = $700
In the end, PS3 is a much better value price wise (even if you buy a bigger hard drive).
You don't have to get the official USB WiFi adaptor from MS...You can pick up any USB Wifi adaptor, it's only $12 dollars online.
ALso since you included the HD-DVD drive for the 360 that means you now have to include a movie and a BD remote for the PS3, since the HD-DVD drive comes with both...
Oh yeah, and did i mention the Elite 360 upscales DVD's up to 1080p via HDMI? Add another $100 dollars for the PS3..
I kept the HDMI cable at $50 (Sony brand), so I'll keep the Wi-Fi at $100. Ok, Blu-Ray remote ($25). Elite + peripherals = $830 PS3 + peripherals = $725
Upscaling DVD player? BluRay movie?
[QUOTE="WARRZONE"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="WARRZONE"][QUOTE="ZimpanX"]I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible
PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite
HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1
Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2
Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2
Included chargecable Yes No 2-2
Included headset No Yes 2-3
Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3
Total price 500 480 3-4
Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package
this is only how I see it though
m3Boarder32
Why are you comparing the core PS3 to the 360 Elite? If you want to compare cores, PS3 wins hands down (except in price). Also, I don't find this comparison is very accurate because it's not weighted properly (ie headset, which you can get anywhere for cheap, is less than Blu-Ray, which should be worth more points). I like using money comparisons better than points.
I'm going to repeat what you said, except put a price tag on it. Also, I'm adding Wi-Fi as a factor because I'm going to compare the top SKUs.
What 360 is missing: HD movie playback ($200), free online ($50), Wi-Fi ($100). Total price of 360's missing peripherals: $350. 360 Elite + peripherals = $830
What PS3 is missing: 120GB HDD ($120; although, 60GB is enough), HDMI ($50 or much less on monoprice.com), Bluetooth headset (~$50). Total price of missing PS3 peripherals: $100 if you like the hard drive just fine. PS3 + peripherals = $700
In the end, PS3 is a much better value price wise (even if you buy a bigger hard drive).
You don't have to get the official USB WiFi adaptor from MS...You can pick up any USB Wifi adaptor, it's only $12 dollars online.
ALso since you included the HD-DVD drive for the 360 that means you now have to include a movie and a BD remote for the PS3, since the HD-DVD drive comes with both...
Oh yeah, and did i mention the Elite 360 upscales DVD's up to 1080p via HDMI? Add another $100 dollars for the PS3..
I kept the HDMI cable at $50 (Sony brand), so I'll keep the Wi-Fi at $100. Ok, Blu-Ray remote ($25). Elite + peripherals = $830 PS3 + peripherals = $725
Upscaling DVD player? BluRay movie?
The PS3 will eventually be able to upscale DVDs to HD after a firmware update.
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="WARRZONE"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="WARRZONE"][QUOTE="ZimpanX"]I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible
PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite
HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1
Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2
Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2
Included chargecable Yes No 2-2
Included headset No Yes 2-3
Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3
Total price 500 480 3-4
Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package
this is only how I see it though
asdasd
Why are you comparing the core PS3 to the 360 Elite? If you want to compare cores, PS3 wins hands down (except in price). Also, I don't find this comparison is very accurate because it's not weighted properly (ie headset, which you can get anywhere for cheap, is less than Blu-Ray, which should be worth more points). I like using money comparisons better than points.
I'm going to repeat what you said, except put a price tag on it. Also, I'm adding Wi-Fi as a factor because I'm going to compare the top SKUs.
What 360 is missing: HD movie playback ($200), free online ($50), Wi-Fi ($100). Total price of 360's missing peripherals: $350. 360 Elite + peripherals = $830
What PS3 is missing: 120GB HDD ($120; although, 60GB is enough), HDMI ($50 or much less on monoprice.com), Bluetooth headset (~$50). Total price of missing PS3 peripherals: $100 if you like the hard drive just fine. PS3 + peripherals = $700
In the end, PS3 is a much better value price wise (even if you buy a bigger hard drive).
You don't have to get the official USB WiFi adaptor from MS...You can pick up any USB Wifi adaptor, it's only $12 dollars online.
ALso since you included the HD-DVD drive for the 360 that means you now have to include a movie and a BD remote for the PS3, since the HD-DVD drive comes with both...
Oh yeah, and did i mention the Elite 360 upscales DVD's up to 1080p via HDMI? Add another $100 dollars for the PS3..
I kept the HDMI cable at $50 (Sony brand), so I'll keep the Wi-Fi at $100. Ok, Blu-Ray remote ($25). Elite + peripherals = $830 PS3 + peripherals = $725
Upscaling DVD player? BluRay movie?
The PS3 will eventually be able to upscale DVDs to HD after a firmware update.
But until then you have to add the cost of an upscaling DVD player to the PS3...
[QUOTE="ZimpanX"]I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible
PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite
HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1
Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2
Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2
Included chargecable Yes No 2-2
Included headset No Yes 2-3
Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3
Total price 500 480 3-4
Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package
this is only how I see it though
WARRZONE
Why are you comparing the core PS3 to the 360 Elite?
maybe because the TC did?...
$499 PS3 has has HDMI plus Blue-Ray (most blue-ray players are $700). Elite doesn't have HD-DVD. So essentially you're paying a lot of dough for a black 360 premium with HDMI. The bigger hardrive is another downfall, because you can buy a computer hard-drive and plug it in your PS3, no biggie. With 360 it's not the same (it can done but you risk losing your xbox). GoodContributor
Yeah the PS3 offers a TON. Except for the fact that 20GB will always be just a LITTLE bit less than 120GB. I guess you forgot to overlook the enourmous library the 360 has as well.
The PS3 is not worth the money RIGHT NOW, maybe at the end of 2007, but right now, $500- $600 is too much for a gaming system with not many good games.
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