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#51 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]I wish they would make a proper sequal to Quake: III, multiplayer only.dgsag

They will, if Quake Live succeeds. This was said during the Quakecon conference.

Can you post a link please.

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#52 mr_mozilla
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what if.... the Doom guy was commander Keen all along? :O

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:o It's possible. Maybe Doomguy is just Commander Keen grown old. But if so, where's his pogo stick?
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#53 Tony-Harrison
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]I wish they would make a proper sequal to Quake: III, multiplayer only.dgsag

They will, if Quake Live succeeds. This was said during the Quakecon conference.

I would prefer a sequel to Quake 1. Multiplayer only would be fine so long as it had an editor.

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#54 muscleserge
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

Although many PC gamers criticize id for multi-plat development, it seems like the PC is still their primary love and focus.

"By the the time that DOOM 4 ships to consoles, PC will be light years ahead of current consoles. In this case, the PC version will support significant visual improvements over 360 or PS3 versions"

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8826499&publicUserId=4551247

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more proff that both the 360 and ps3 is out dated and old big time!!!!


You are aware the game could be years away? If the game comes out in 3 years then of course the PC will have much better hardware.

I think PC already has much better hardware, look not further than the almighty 8800GT, or HD4850, or Core 2 Duo, and this hardware is reletively cheap, all built on 65nm/55nm process. In 3 years I believe we will have the next wave of consoles.
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#55 Dreams-Visions
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good luck, iD. look forward to seeing these graphics.
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#56 Jamex1987
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So basically a computer with 2008 tech looks better than hardware running 2005 tech? Thank you captain obvious.
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#57 blackdreamhunk
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

Although many PC gamers criticize id for multi-plat development, it seems like the PC is still their primary love and focus.

"By the the time that DOOM 4 ships to consoles, PC will be light years ahead of current consoles. In this case, the PC version will support significant visual improvements over 360 or PS3 versions"

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8826499&publicUserId=4551247

muscleserge

more proff that both the 360 and ps3 is out dated and old big time!!!!


You are aware the game could be years away? If the game comes out in 3 years then of course the PC will have much better hardware.

I think PC already has much better hardware, look not further than the almighty 8800GT, or HD4850, or Core 2 Duo, and this hardware is reletively cheap, all built on 65nm/55nm process. In 3 years I believe we will have the next wave of consoles.

sony and MS will not be making a new console for another 8 years LOL

In 1 year the pc will be so much better you can't play pc games on console......360 and ps3 is already tooo old

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#58 JLF1
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sony and MS will not be making a new console for another 8 years LOL

In 1 year the pc will be so much better you can't play pc games on console......360 and ps3 is already tooo old

blackdreamhunk

So you can't play a game because there might be better looking games at the same time?
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#59 blackdreamhunk
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

sony and MS will not be making a new console for another 8 years LOL

In 1 year the pc will be so much better you can't play pc games on console......360 and ps3 is already tooo old

JLF1


So you can't play a game because there might be better looking games at the same time?

the game graphics, ram and cpu physics will be too over much for the consoles to run. You can't run crysis as is with consoles already now picture 8 years from now.

If console game devs tryed to compete wit pc game devs well, who will look like a lazy game dev or over payed.

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#60 mr_mozilla
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

sony and MS will not be making a new console for another 8 years LOL

In 1 year the pc will be so much better you can't play pc games on console......360 and ps3 is already tooo old

blackdreamhunk


So you can't play a game because there might be better looking games at the same time?

the game graphics, ram and cpu physics will be too over much for the consoles to run. You can't run crysis as is with consoles already now picture 8 years from now.

If console game devs tryed to compete wit pc game devs well, who will look like a lazy game dev or over payed.

If they kept going with the current consoles for 8 years that'd be true, but I can't see that happening.
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#61 death919
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I will build a PC when it comes out.
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#62 JLF1
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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

sony and MS will not be making a new console for another 8 years LOL

In 1 year the pc will be so much better you can't play pc games on console......360 and ps3 is already tooo old

blackdreamhunk


So you can't play a game because there might be better looking games at the same time?

the game graphics, ram and cpu physics will be too over much for the consoles to run. You can't run crysis as is with consoles already now picture 8 years from now.

If console game devs tryed to compete wit pc game devs well, who will look like a lazy game dev or over payed.


Where did I say that consoles can play Crysis or that they won't be outdated?

I said can YOU not play games because they have outdated graphics?

Do you really compare the quality of the developers by how good graphics they can produce?
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#63 dgsag
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[QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]I wish they would make a proper sequal to Quake: III, multiplayer only.Kez1984

They will, if Quake Live succeeds. This was said during the Quakecon conference.

Can you post a link please.

Look up the IGN Press Conference live blog. Its mentioned when they talk about Quake.

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#64 AtrumRegina
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if it uses typical memory alone (1-2 gigs) then it should look better than on the 512 meg consoles.Ontain

So did Bioshock.

Anyway offcourse it will look better but the console versions will still be one of the best looking games around.

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#65 Riverwolf007
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:lol: STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!

In a related story the Earth is expected to revolve once completely on it's axis over the next 24 hours.

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#66 clone01
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]Not really surprising. What was surprising was managin to put Doom III on the xbox.IgorVitaly

Not really, it was tremendously watered down version compared to what you ran smooth on a Geforce4ti4200 or you just ran it on a 9800pro at at 1024x768 and 4xAA and 16xAF. Huge differences... I am sure they could make it for PS2 to but the bump maps would look like N64 textures and the shadows would have to be reduced greatly.

played fine on my Xbox. no real surprise that the PC will pull off better GFX.

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#67 blackdreamhunk
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]if it uses typical memory alone (1-2 gigs) then it should look better than on the 512 meg consoles.AtrumRegina

So did Bioshock.

Anyway offcourse it will look better but the console versions will still be one of the best looking games around.

did you mean system shock oh wait bioshock....lol all consoles look old they look like and old computers now and they play like one lol
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#68 MetroidPrimePwn
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Well, yeah. I don't see how this is news.

The game is DOOM 4. That's what Doom does.

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#69 clone01
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[QUOTE="AtrumRegina"]

[QUOTE="Ontain"]if it uses typical memory alone (1-2 gigs) then it should look better than on the 512 meg consoles.blackdreamhunk

So did Bioshock.

Anyway offcourse it will look better but the console versions will still be one of the best looking games around.

did you mean system shock oh wait bioshock....lol all consoles look old they look like and old computers now and they play like one lol

the PC and console versions of Bioshock were negligible in difference.

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#70 CronoSquall
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The PC games shooting ahead of the consoles was something that was destined to happen, it took a bit longer this gen, but it was expected nonetheless. Oh well, Carmack actually got a good port of Doom 3 and RoE onto Xbox, I expect the 360 to get a decent version of Doom 4 as well.
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#71 jaisimar_chelse
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="dgsag"]

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]I wish they would make a proper sequal to Quake: III, multiplayer only.dgsag

They will, if Quake Live succeeds. This was said during the Quakecon conference.

Can you post a link please.

Look up the IGN Press Conference live blog. Its mentioned when they talk about Quake.

HERE

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if doom 4 is sposed to be multiples better looking than RAGE, then i dont think pcs will be able to run it, much like no one can do crysis now maxed out at a reasonable clip. They wont have very good sales if you need a 5000 dollar supercomputer to run the game.
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#74 dgsag
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if doom 4 is sposed to be multiples better looking than RAGE, then i dont think pcs will be able to run it, much like no one can do crysis now maxed out at a reasonable clip. They wont have very good sales if you need a 5000 dollar supercomputer to run the game.mtradr43

Doom has a bunch of rabid fans. Doom 3 was the most-demanding game of its time, and it sold over 3.5 million copies.

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While I'm sure they will bump up several visual aspects of Doom 4; being a cross platform game the game play is still going to be based around consoles.

That means game levels designed around 256mb...

if doom 4 is sposed to be multiples better looking than RAGE, then i dont think pcs will be able to run it, much like no one can do crysis now maxed out at a reasonable clip. They wont have very good sales if you need a 5000 dollar supercomputer to run the game.mtradr43

The visuals will be better because it will be based around 30fps instead of the 60fps in Rage, enabling better graphics with the same hardware power.

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#76 Itinerant_Voice
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That's why PC gaming has the option to change graphic settings. Set it to no anti-aliasing, no anisotropicand1280 x 720 resolution to get an experience similar to the console versions at the same affordable price. Then you can invest in better hardware to get better graphics when you feel like it; the choice is really yours. The neat thing about it is you can go back to the games you already played once you've got your GTX 280, Core 2 Duo E8600 and 24" 1920 x 1200 monitor and it'll feel like a whole new experience.
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#77 foxhound_fox
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Hmm... I guess id still does have their heads on straight.
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#78 AtrumRegina
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lol PC gaming :lol:
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#79 stepat201
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

[QUOTE="6matt6"]OMG SHOCK HORROR. This is hardly news.Tony-Harrison

Say the Lemmings and the Cows as they cower from the Sheep.

I don't play sales, I play games. No need to cower from the sheep.

Whatever.

360 and PS3 are getting a watered down graphics port. :lol:

Wait,is this a sheep using the PC as ownage against the other consoles? That's new...

Just shows how good the PC is. Any console fanboy can just fall back on it's superiority when their console is in a rough time. :lol:

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#80 dgsag
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While I'm sure they will bump up several visual aspects of Doom 4; being a cross platform game the game play is still going to be based around consoles.

AnnoyedDragon

Doom's base gameplay works on both consoles and PC's equally well, since it doesn't exactly contain a STALKER like level of gameplay complexity

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#81 AnnoyedDragon
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Doom's base gameplay works on both consoles and PC's equally well, since it doesn't exactly contain a STALKER like level of gameplay complexity

dgsag

Yeah but anything surrounding memory will take a hit, that includes level size before hitting a loading screen.

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#82 dgsag
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[QUOTE="dgsag"]

Doom's base gameplay works on both consoles and PC's equally well, since it doesn't exactly contain a STALKER like level of gameplay complexity

AnnoyedDragon

Yeah but anything surrounding memory will take a hit, that includes level size before hitting a loading screen.

Loading frequency isn't a hard thing to tweak for individual platforms.They just need a specific team working on those things.

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#83 Huff
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

[QUOTE="6matt6"]OMG SHOCK HORROR. This is hardly news.Tony-Harrison

Say the Lemmings and the Cows as they cower from the Sheep.

I don't play sales, I play games. No need to cower from the sheep.

Whatever.

360 and PS3 are getting a watered down graphics port. :lol:

They're also getting FFXIII which the PC isn't. :lol:

I don't care. 360 and PS3 owners can shut up about Wii's graphics now because they are getting a watered down graphics port of Doom 4 while Wii owners scoop up the exclusives.

The watered down port thing is fairly new to 360 and PS3 owners. As a wii owner you should be an authority on the subject by now.
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#84 bungie93
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Did I really need 1up to tell me this?
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#85 foxhound_fox
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Doom's base gameplay works on both consoles and PC's equally well, since it doesn't exactly contain a STALKER like level of gameplay complexity.dgsag

I just hope they try to recreate the original game's formula and not the cinematic horror game of Doom 3. Doom 3 was fine but it wasn't "Doom."
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#86 AnnoyedDragon
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Loading frequency isn't a hard thing to tweak for individual platforms.They just need a specific team working on those things.

dgsag

If it was streaming I wouldn't argue, but if it is loading screens between levels like Doom 3; we are getting exactly what the consoles are getting.

Only way around it is to redesign the levels to be bigger on PC; which in cross platform development is unlikely.

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[QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

[QUOTE="6matt6"]OMG SHOCK HORROR. This is hardly news.xsubtownerx

Say the Lemmings and the Cows as they cower from the Sheep.

I don't play sales, I play games. No need to cower from the sheep.

Whatever.

360 and PS3 are getting a watered down graphics port. :lol:

They're also getting FFXIII which the PC isn't. :lol:

I don't care. 360 and PS3 owners can shut up about Wii's graphics now because they are getting a watered down graphics port of Doom 4 while Wii owners scoop up the exclusives.

I don't play graphics, I play gameplay. lmao

Haha, good comeback. :D

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#88 dgsag
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[QUOTE="dgsag"]

Loading frequency isn't a hard thing to tweak for individual platforms.They just need a specific team working on those things.

AnnoyedDragon

If it was streaming I wouldn't argue, but if it is loading screens between levels like Doom 3; we are getting exactly what the consoles are getting.

Only way around it is to redesign the levels to be bigger on PC; which in cross platform development is unlikely.

This is id. The bulk of their sales and support comes from the PC fanbase. I wouldn't be surprised if the PC version has tweaks beyond just graphics.

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#89 Zeppy007
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"][QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Tony-Harrison"]

[QUOTE="6matt6"]OMG SHOCK HORROR. This is hardly news.Tony-Harrison

Say the Lemmings and the Cows as they cower from the Sheep.

I don't play sales, I play games. No need to cower from the sheep.

Whatever.

360 and PS3 are getting a watered down graphics port. :lol:

They're also getting FFXIII which the PC isn't. :lol:

I don't care. 360 and PS3 owners can shut up about Wii's graphics now because they are getting a watered down graphics port of Doom 4 while Wii owners scoop up the exclusives.

more like **** and who cares about better grapics as long as I can see what im doing im fine

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#90 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="Ontain"]if it uses typical memory alone (1-2 gigs) then it should look better than on the 512 meg consoles.angelkimne

More RAM =/= looking better.

Just means longer loading, smaller enviroments or pop-ups.

no it means better textures and affects possible. if you want to put the theory to test try comparing a pc game on a pc with 1gb and 2gb and the 2gb machine will let you turn more affects on

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#91 redneckdouglas
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And another FPS to add to the PC library. Along with hundreds more coming...

NO! And TF2 is the only one worth playing online.