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#51 Ibacai
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wow, apparently very few people on this webpage understand satire. Andrew0987
You're in system wars buddy, intelligence is in short supply.
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#52 BumFluff122
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regardless of the before and after pics of mgs4 it looks like a good game with very good graphics. The main difference between the two pictures is the bluishness of the first image though.

Instead of judging gameplay pictures before the game is even out in the case of Halo 3 I would rather wait for the finished product to hit the stores.
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#53 OldParr
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somehow the mgs4 looks the same to me just with different tint.i see no downgrade
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#54 dinb
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Are those Halo3 or Halo2 shots? There is no way that Halo 3 would have jaggies like that. Those must be Halo 2 shots.

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#55 treyskillz
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every looks like it got better...

but you compared Halo 3 to Halo 3(CGI... in-game but not playable)

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#56 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"]Why do you give DC for Halo and not the other two?CJL13

He's saying lemmings bash cows for their downgraded games yet when lemmings games get downgraded they claim it's pre alpha so it doesn't count, ignoring the pre alpha version of cows games they were bashing.

please give me a list of all the ps3 games that were ever shown in its pre-alpha stages...
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#57 -GeordiLaForge-
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Are those Halo3 or Halo2 shots? There is no way that Halo 3 would have jaggies like that. Those must be Halo 2 shots.

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Gamespot resizes the pictures, which is where the jaggies come from. Save them to your desktop, and then view them...
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#58 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"]Why do you give DC for Halo and not the other two?CJL13

He's saying lemmings bash cows for their downgraded games yet when lemmings games get downgraded they claim it's pre alpha so it doesn't count, ignoring the pre alpha version of cows games they were bashing.

Ok, I get it now.I was like WTF.
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#59 CJL13
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[QUOTE="CJL13"]

[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"]Why do you give DC for Halo and not the other two?lawlessx

He's saying lemmings bash cows for their downgraded games yet when lemmings games get downgraded they claim it's pre alpha so it doesn't count, ignoring the pre alpha version of cows games they were bashing.

please give me a list of all the ps3 games that were ever shown in its pre-alpha stages...

I don't think those games are finished, so you can't really knock them till they are.

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#60 fuzzysquash
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[QUOTE="dinb"]

Are those Halo3 or Halo2 shots? There is no way that Halo 3 would have jaggies like that. Those must be Halo 2 shots.

-GeordiLaForge-
Gamespot resizes the pictures, which is where the jaggies come from. Save them to your desktop, and then view them...

nope, the jaggies are from lack of AA in the pre-alpha build.
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#62 fuzzysquash
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[QUOTE="CJL13"]

[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"]Why do you give DC for Halo and not the other two?lawlessx

He's saying lemmings bash cows for their downgraded games yet when lemmings games get downgraded they claim it's pre alpha so it doesn't count, ignoring the pre alpha version of cows games they were bashing.

please give me a list of all the ps3 games that were ever shown in its pre-alpha stages...

You know, not every developer announces what stage their game is at when they show it.
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#63 tricyclon123
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Problem is, that those pics of PS3 games are thought to be final and in game, and for show (they ARE on a magazine right ?), when those Halo 3 pics are NOT for show, meaning they are nowhere near final
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#64 Viviath
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[QUOTE="Dead_Menn"]lol remember then MGS4 E3 trailer (not pre-rendered my ass) Remember the kill zone 2 trailer that was “real time” Remember those next gen graphics the motostorm trailer I think Sony is the king of CG lies /end of cow cockiness

Konami makes MGS not sony.....get your facts straight......
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Problem is, that those pics of PS3 games are thought to be final and in game, and for show (they ARE on a magazine right ?), when those Halo 3 pics are NOT for show, meaning they are nowhere near finaltricyclon123
No, those PS3 are nowhere near final. In fact, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is even earlier in development than Halo 3. Magazine's don't only show finished games, and those screenshots aren't even from a magazine.
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#66 waynehead895
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For a second there I really thought u just made a fanboy post....sneaky u

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Same here. I was gonna say not Fuzzy. No Way.
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#67 fuzzysquash
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[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

For a second there I really thought u just made a fanboy post....sneaky u

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Same here. I was gonna say not Fuzzy. No Way.

almost had you :P
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#68 Magical_Guy
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this thread delivers
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#69 deadesa
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ahaha:lol:

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#70 tricyclon123
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[QUOTE="tricyclon123"]Problem is, that those pics of PS3 games are thought to be final and in game, and for show (they ARE on a magazine right ?), when those Halo 3 pics are NOT for show, meaning they are nowhere near finalfuzzysquash
No, those PS3 are nowhere near final. In fact, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is even earlier in development than Halo 3. Magazine's don't only show finished games, and those screenshots aren't even from a magazine.

Just in, developers confirmed that PS3 is weak to run it like original pics (as with most PS3 games)

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#71 Truth_Hurts_U
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I guess Fuzzy didn't get it in the other thread. Guess I scared him to much. There is a difference between lying "Sony" and some of it's Dev's... And showing real game play and the progress being made on it.

I don't see him using any other game besides Halo. Use Gears... Oh thats right it looked like crap from the get go. Now it's 3 times better looking.

All they showed on Halo 3 was a short cut-scene farther in the game. But with Sony and it's Dev's you get massive and elaborate video's claiming it's real time (Killzone). Then a few months later getting real game play shots that look 5 times worse.

Yet, it's ok by "cows"... ***shakes head***

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#73 game_fanatic
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glad your being sarcastic, or would be so flamed, but yes your right, it still won't stop the fanboys though.
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#74 thedarkomen
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Ewww.... Halo looks like candyland. And that new naughty dog pic looks altered. Man, these Xbox fans are really downgraded their intelligence and dignity. Don't they have games to play?
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#75 -Pale
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What I've learned from this thread; Most people on SW don't appreciate or detect sarcasm. MGS4 is still getting the downgrade treatment, a game can only be left without any criticism in it's Pre-Alpha stages, thanks Bungie! :3 [Although the alpha screens still looked the same... Just sayin' you know.]

A developer has to come outright and say 'Our game is PRE-ALPHA, ;(' because evidently we can't make the assumption that a game that is launching later than another just might be further behind in development than 'X' game, shocking I know.

However, we CAN make the assumption that we ourselves know it's past the golden alpha stage is ready for the constructive criticism that SW's just wouldn't be the same without.

Edit: Damn, GS keeps screwing my paragraphs down.
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#76 Ryusuken
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Fanboys will be fanboys, in their stupid and biased ways. Always. And to judge a game in its early stages of development...oh well...this is SW anyways. Stupidity over common sense FTW.
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]Problem is, that those pics of PS3 games are thought to be final and in game, and for show (they ARE on a magazine right ?), when those Halo 3 pics are NOT for show, meaning they are nowhere near finaltricyclon123

No, those PS3 are nowhere near final. In fact, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is even earlier in development than Halo 3. Magazine's don't only show finished games, and those screenshots aren't even from a magazine.

Just in, developers confirmed that PS3 is weak to run it like original pics (as with most PS3 games)

That was lame :|
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I guess Fuzzy didn't get it in the other thread. Guess I scared him to much. There is a difference between lying "Sony" and some of it's Dev's... And showing real game play and the progress being made on it.

I don't see him using any other game besides Halo. Use Gears... Oh thats right it looked like crap from the get go. Now it's 3 times better looking.

All they showed on Halo 3 was a short cut-scene farther in the game. But with Sony and it's Dev's you get massive and elaborate video's claiming it's real time (Killzone). Then a few months later getting real game play shots that look 5 times worse.

Yet, it's ok by "cows"... ***shakes head***

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:lol: of all the years I've been around, I've never had anyone think I was scared of them. And what exactly is the point of your long-winded, disorganized post?
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#79 -Pale
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"All they showed on Halo 3 was a short cut-scene farther in the game. But with Sony and it's Dev's you get massive and elaborate video's claiming it's real time (Killzone). Then a few months later getting real game play shots that look 5 times worse." Is this not what happened with Halo 3? Except... The gameplay shots of MGS4 look closer to the original trailer.
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#80 Truth_Hurts_U
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:lol: of all the years I've been around, I've never had anyone think I was scared of them. And what exactly is the point of your long-winded, disorganized post?fuzzysquash

When you ramble like you are now. Calling my post disorganized. You are scared. Why else would you make a whole other thread?

Guess you still don't get the point I was trying to make. Then again fanboys never do. I know you have a 360. But that doesn't make you not a fanboy.

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#81 Truth_Hurts_U
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"All they showed on Halo 3 was a short cut-scene farther in the game. But with Sony and it's Dev's you get massive and elaborate video's claiming it's real time (Killzone). Then a few months later getting real game play shots that look 5 times worse." Is this not what happened with Halo 3? Except... The gameplay shots of MGS4 look closer to the original trailer.-Pale

I'm not picking on MGS4... I am picking on all the PS3 games that were shown to be "real time" (GCI)... Then months later being shown again only to look worse.

Killzone, Motostorm, Naughty Dog game and what have you.

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#82 -Pale
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[QUOTE="-Pale"]"All they showed on Halo 3 was a short cut-scene farther in the game. But with Sony and it's Dev's you get massive and elaborate video's claiming it's real time (Killzone). Then a few months later getting real game play shots that look 5 times worse." Is this not what happened with Halo 3? Except... The gameplay shots of MGS4 look closer to the original trailer.Truth_Hurts_U

I'm not picking on MGS4... I am picking on all the PS3 games that were shown to be "real time" (GCI)... Then months later being shown again only to look worse.

Killzone, Motostorm, Naughty Dog game and what have you.

Well lets see, there's a real time demo for MGS4, much like the Halo 3 one that wasn't shown to the public. You can check it up on youtube but I doubt that'll stop you. Although... I could cherry pick so many games that have trailers and are shown looking worse afterwards and they're just on the PS3. O: Omg, wtf. *Awe*
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[QUOTE="-Pale"]"All they showed on Halo 3 was a short cut-scene farther in the game. But with Sony and it's Dev's you get massive and elaborate video's claiming it's real time (Killzone). Then a few months later getting real game play shots that look 5 times worse." Is this not what happened with Halo 3? Except... The gameplay shots of MGS4 look closer to the original trailer.Truth_Hurts_U

I'm not picking on MGS4... I am picking on all the PS3 games that were shown to be "real time" (GCI)... Then months later being shown again only to look worse.

Killzone, Motostorm, Naughty Dog game and what have you.

*Looks at first halo trailer* AWESOME!!!!!! *Looks at later screenshots* :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o
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#84 Truth_Hurts_U
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*Looks at first halo trailer* AWESOME!!!!!! *Looks at later screenshots* :o:o:o:o:o:o:o:o:osuper_mario_128

Go look up the "Making of Halo 3 trailer". They show you how they made it. They stand by it being "real time". Not back peddling like these Sony Dev's.

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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] :lol: of all the years I've been around, I've never had anyone think I was scared of them. And what exactly is the point of your long-winded, disorganized post?Truth_Hurts_U

When you ramble like you are now. Calling my post disorganized. You are scared. Why else would you make a whole other thread?

Guess you still don't get the point I was trying to make. Then again fanboys never do. I know you have a 360. But that doesn't make you not a fanboy.

lol, think what you want, I could care less. You know I have a 360. You probably know some more info about me. I don't know you, and I don't recognize your name. Therefore, it matters little to me what you think of me. I made this thread because I felt like getting more readership. If you interpret that as fear, so be it, but I don't really mind how you'd like to psycho-analyze me :wink:
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#86 Truth_Hurts_U
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Well lets see, there's a real time demo for MGS4, much like the Halo 3 one that wasn't shown to the public. You can check it up on youtube but I doubt that'll stop you. Although... I could cherry pick so many games that have trailers and are shown looking worse afterwards and they're just on the PS3. O: Omg, wtf. *Awe*-Pale

Like I sad I am not talking about MGS4.

Do I have that bad of English skills, that you cannot understand what I say?

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#87 -Pale
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[QUOTE="-Pale"]Well lets see, there's a real time demo for MGS4, much like the Halo 3 one that wasn't shown to the public. You can check it up on youtube but I doubt that'll stop you. Although... I could cherry pick so many games that have trailers and are shown looking worse afterwards and they're just on the PS3. O: Omg, wtf. *Awe*Truth_Hurts_U

Like I sad I am not talking about MGS4.

Do I have that bad of English skills, that you cannot understand what I say?

So you're only in this thread to claim someone over the internet is scared of you? Here I thought we could have some sort of debate, compare the subtle details between the two trailers. But since you're only picking on PS3 games that don't look like their original trailer --. Wait, you're not talking about MGS4? But according to you MGS4 is one of those games that don't look like the first trailer. Why are you here? If you're gonna troll, at least be consistent with it.
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#88 cakeorrdeath
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People need to stop believing target renders.


Gears is the only game from recent memory that hit the mark.
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#89 Truth_Hurts_U
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So you're only in this thread to claim someone over the internet is scared of you? Here I thought we could have some sort of debate, compare the subtle details between the two trailers. But since you're only picking on PS3 games that don't look like their original trailer --. Wait, you're not talking about MGS4? But according to you MGS4 is one of those games that don't look like the first trailer. Why are you here? If you're gonna troll, at least be consistent with it.-Pale

Re-read my first post. It will do you some good. It's not the only reason why I replied.

Now read the post where I said CGI. Ok, you get it now?

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#90 -Pale
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[QUOTE="-Pale"]So you're only in this thread to claim someone over the internet is scared of you? Here I thought we could have some sort of debate, compare the subtle details between the two trailers. But since you're only picking on PS3 games that don't look like their original trailer --. Wait, you're not talking about MGS4? But according to you MGS4 is one of those games that don't look like the first trailer. Why are you here? If you're gonna troll, at least be consistent with it.Truth_Hurts_U

Re-read my first post. It will do you some go. It's not the only reason why I replied.

Now read the post where I said CGI. Ok, you get it now?

I guess Fuzzy didn't get it in the other thread. Guess I scared him to much. There is a difference between lying "Sony" and some of it's Dev's... And showing real game play and the progress being made on it.

I don't see him using any other game besides Halo. Use Gears... Oh thats right it looked like crap from the get go. Now it's 3 times better looking.

All they showed on Halo 3 was a short cut-scene farther in the game. But with Sony and it's Dev's you get massive and elaborate video's claiming it's real time (Killzone). Then a few months later getting real game play shots that look 5 times worse.

Yet, it's ok by "cows"... ***shakes head***

Truth_Hurts_U
"Fuzzy, pay attention to me ;(" Oh.. I get it now. Awesome.
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#91 Litchie
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Beyond lame this thread is.
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#92 Truth_Hurts_U
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[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

I guess Fuzzy didn't get it in the other thread. Guess I scared him to much. There is a difference between lying "Sony" and some of it's Dev's... And showing real game play and the progress being made on it.

I don't see him using any other game besides Halo. Use Gears... Oh thats right it looked like crap from the get go. Now it's 3 times better looking.

All they showed on Halo 3 was a short cut-scene farther in the game. But with Sony and it's Dev's you get massive and elaborate video's claiming it's real time (Killzone). Then a few months later getting real game play shots that look 5 times worse.

Yet, it's ok by "cows"... ***shakes head***

-Pale

"Fuzzy, pay attention to me ;(" Oh.. I get it now. Awesome.

Read the bold after you read the topic creaters first post. Get it yet?

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#93 fuzzysquash
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[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

[QUOTE="-Pale"]So you're only in this thread to claim someone over the internet is scared of you? Here I thought we could have some sort of debate, compare the subtle details between the two trailers. But since you're only picking on PS3 games that don't look like their original trailer --. Wait, you're not talking about MGS4? But according to you MGS4 is one of those games that don't look like the first trailer. Why are you here? If you're gonna troll, at least be consistent with it.-Pale

Re-read my first post. It will do you some go. It's not the only reason why I replied.

Now read the post where I said CGI. Ok, you get it now?

I guess Fuzzy didn't get it in the other thread. Guess I scared him to much. There is a difference between lying "Sony" and some of it's Dev's... And showing real game play and the progress being made on it.

I don't see him using any other game besides Halo. Use Gears... Oh thats right it looked like crap from the get go. Now it's 3 times better looking.

All they showed on Halo 3 was a short cut-scene farther in the game. But with Sony and it's Dev's you get massive and elaborate video's claiming it's real time (Killzone). Then a few months later getting real game play shots that look 5 times worse.

Yet, it's ok by "cows"... ***shakes head***

Truth_Hurts_U
"Fuzzy, pay attention to me ;(" Oh.. I get it now. Awesome.

Yeah, I don't know why this guy's following me around asking me why I'm afraid of him and calling me a fanboy. It's kinda amusing.
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#94 Truth_Hurts_U
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Yeah, I don't know why this guy's following me around asking me why I'm afraid of him and calling me a fanboy. It's kinda amusing.fuzzysquash

I am following you around? More like finishing an argument in this thread.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25387623&page=0

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#95 cakeorrdeath
Member since 2006 • 19079 Posts

[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"] Yeah, I don't know why this guy's following me around asking me why I'm afraid of him and calling me a fanboy. It's kinda amusing.Truth_Hurts_U

I am following you around? More like finishing an argument in this thread.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25387623&page=0



Why not post in that thread then?:?
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#96 Truth_Hurts_U
Member since 2006 • 9703 Posts


Why not post in that thread then?:?
cakeorrdeath

I usually don't bump posts more then 3 or 4 pages deep.

Because I wanna read new topics, not old ones. :P

When I popped on this was on the first page. So I thought what the heck. Same guy and same story.

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#97 gtx-1
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Already a topic. fatzombiepigeon

/sarcasm
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#98 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"]Already a topic. Ibacai
Sarcasm buddy. He's making a point about the other thread that you shouldn't judge a game until it's int he final stages.


    Actually, you should not judge a game until its in its final retail release form.
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#99 Spartan070
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why do lemmings act like it was the cows that bashed them first

remember the whole mgs thing?

mish55
Remember the whole last gen thing?
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#100 toxicmog
Member since 2006 • 6355 Posts
*poke* Your top one on naughty dogs new game does look better now :S Look at his hands...you can see the bones in the new screen shot. The backgrounds have more lighting etc o.o I dont know what you are on xD Even they suck hard at being devs, it looks much better than it did