Dragons Dogma - A years later

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#1 Alcapello
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Anybody has any extreme opinions about this game?

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#2 Krelian-co
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extreme? no, it was a very good game with some design flaws, i would like to see dragon's dogma 2 with these flaws fixed.

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#3 Snugenz
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Really enjoyed it and put a good amount of time into it and Dark Arisen, sure it had problems but i'd love to see a sequel.

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#4 TheTruthIsREAL
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I would really love a sequel. Easily one of my favorite games last gen.

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#5 blackace
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@alcapello said:

Anybody has any extreme opinions about this game?

Only opinion I have is, "Where the #@!& is the sequel?"

Oohh I need to go back and play this game some more.

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#6  Edited By Nanomage
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Not really,it was an average action RPG with very good combat and mediocrity everywhere else,I played it maybe a couple of months ago again for a couple of hours and my opinion hasn´t changed.

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#7 jake44
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@Krelian-co said:

extreme? no, it was a very good game with some design flaws, i would like to see dragon's dogma 2 with these flaws fixed.

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#8 silversix_
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I enjoyed it a lot. Like a lot a lot, probably the best Capcom game of gen 7 for me

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#9  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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Amazing combat.

Great world design.

Good progression system

Mediocre quests, storyline and characters, though, i did like the methaphysical aspects of the Arisen fighting his predecessor to become God, restore balance and fight the next one

Horrible backtracking

Pawns wouldn't SHUT THE **** UP!!! Pawn system was ok IMO.

All in all, good game, but didn't fully grab me in the story/lore department.

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#10 Senor_Kami
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Great core gameplay mechanics... absolutely terrible everything else. World, enemy variety (you will see 90% of enemies you will ever see within 1 hour of play), story, quests... abysmal. The Dark Arisen expansion pack fixes the enemy variety at least and honestly, that one dungeon area is more interesting and more varied than the entirety of the default game world.

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#11 AM-Gamer
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It had some of the best combat of any open world RPG available. I wish they would drop the pawn system in favor of multiplayer and use the same engine as deep down for the sequel.

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#12  Edited By princeofshapeir
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My extreme opinion was that it was one of the best RPGs of the 7th gen. Its only flaw was the exclusivity to PS3 and 360; the game suffered from severe technical limitations. A PC port would have made the game perfect.

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#13 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@princeofshapeir said:

My extreme opinion was that it was one of the best RPGs of the 7th gen. Its only flaw was the exclusivity to PS3 and 360; the game suffered from severe technical limitations. A PC port would have made the game perfect.

I'm surprised Capcom hasn't ported it. Maybe the sales on consoles where too low, and pc wouldn't be worth it. They tend to ported most multiplats to pc nowadays

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#14  Edited By rabakill
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Best gameplay in any RPG ever. Took mechanics from other games and implemented perfectly. Terrible story and travel mechanics. Would love a sequel

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it had some good ideas but the UI was garbage, the graphics sucked and I got bored of the gameplay after a while because I couldn't build the character I wanted.

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@mems_1224 said:

it had some good ideas but the UI was garbage, the graphics sucked and I got bored of the gameplay after a while because I couldn't build the character I wanted.

The UI is pretty good and a lot better than Skyrim's. The graphics aren't very detailed and the pop-in is some of the worst I've seen in a console game, but the scale of environments, lighting, and enemy animations were excellent. Building a character is also really flexible; you just play the vocation you want and your stats automatically scale as you level it.

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#17 pyro1245
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damn good game. I got it before the DLC so maybe I should play it again......

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#18 Lulu_Lulu
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Fantastic gameplay... God awfull design decisions.

The absolute worst of which was the Progression System, Leveling Up Vocation was good but Leveling Up The Character was just terribal, I expected a whole lot more from Mr. Itsuno.... and then theres a few other things like the map only seeming big because you character moves so slow, why aren't there any horses or spaceships ?

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#19 Maroxad
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Great game, and one of the finest RPGs of the 7th gen. It is a shame Capcom decided to port games no one asked for instead of this to the PC.

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#20 Vaasman
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It's the best worst RPG of last gen.

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#21 Mr-Powers
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One of the most unique and great RPGs of last gen. Decent graphics for the scale of the world, very good combat and variety in class and abilities, amazing monster design. They took a chance and while some things didn't work, these can be easily fixed in a sequel. The first game in a new franchise is rarely perfect.

I wonder how much they are going to adapt to Deep Down. They already got rid of the Pawn system and added 4 player co op, which is a big first step.

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#22 glez13
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The game was full of interesting ideas but the execution was mediocre, it would be nice to see a sequel that will hopefully fix this.

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#23 mems_1224
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@princeofshapeir said:

@mems_1224 said:

it had some good ideas but the UI was garbage, the graphics sucked and I got bored of the gameplay after a while because I couldn't build the character I wanted.

The UI is pretty good and a lot better than Skyrim's. The graphics aren't very detailed and the pop-in is some of the worst I've seen in a console game, but the scale of environments, lighting, and enemy animations were excellent. Building a character is also really flexible; you just play the vocation you want and your stats automatically scale as you level it.

Not sure what Skyrim has to do with Dragon's Dogma. The graphics were garbage and so were the character designs. The enemy designs are the only good looking parts of that game. No, you can't build the character you want because skills are locked into certain weapons which are locked into different types of vocations. In my RPGs I liked to use a sword and bow and I can't do that in Dragon's Dogma unless I pick in assassin which was a boring class to play. The archery also sucked major ass other than the magic archer.

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#24 Lulu_Lulu
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I think this was further worsened by the fact that you could only change Vocations is Grand Soren.

I like The Magic Archer and Mystical Knight. But I don't like most of the Magic in the game... Its too Abstract.

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#25 mems_1224
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I think this was further worsened by the fact that you could only change Vocations is Grand Soren.

I like The Magic Archer and Mystical Knight. But I don't like most of the Magic in the game... Its too Abstract.

Yea, I liked the magic archer a lot but sometimes I want to do some melee and I hated using daggers. Plus using just a sword as an assassin was pointless because you can't dodge unless you use daggers and you can't block unless you use a shield. I also really hated the camera.

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#26 Lulu_Lulu
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Dumb Restrictions that don't make sense. Also a few of the Magic Archers dagger skills use normal magicless daggers, which means you shouldn't need daggers to use that specific skill....

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#27  Edited By princeofshapeir
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@mems_1224 said:

@princeofshapeir said:

@mems_1224 said:

it had some good ideas but the UI was garbage, the graphics sucked and I got bored of the gameplay after a while because I couldn't build the character I wanted.

The UI is pretty good and a lot better than Skyrim's. The graphics aren't very detailed and the pop-in is some of the worst I've seen in a console game, but the scale of environments, lighting, and enemy animations were excellent. Building a character is also really flexible; you just play the vocation you want and your stats automatically scale as you level it.

Not sure what Skyrim has to do with Dragon's Dogma. The graphics were garbage and so were the character designs. The enemy designs are the only good looking parts of that game. No, you can't build the character you want because skills are locked into certain weapons which are locked into different types of vocations. In my RPGs I liked to use a sword and bow and I can't do that in Dragon's Dogma unless I pick in assassin which was a boring class to play. The archery also sucked major ass other than the magic archer.

The point is you're able to freely switch between vocations. You aren't tied down to one forever, and your stats scale based on which you play more. And Assassin is one of the most fun vocations to play lol, they literally combine everything Fighters and Striders have and have the most weapon choices of any vocation, so if you wanted you could have gone sword and bow. This is also the first time I've heard someone call the archery in Dragon's Dogma bad; it's honestly the best I've seen in a game of this genre.

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#28 Lulu_Lulu
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In Post Game scenarios the become a liability, Magic plays a much larger role then, and depending on pawns and curatives becomes more trouble than its worth....

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#29 locopatho
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Excellent game, a real return to form for Capcom.

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#30 kozzy1234
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Good gameplay and controls but horrible story, characters and dialogue.

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#31 GhoX
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I found the framerate intolerable. Will try the game again if it gets ported to PC or PS4.

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#32 Lulu_Lulu
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It takes a serious nose dive in the UR Dragon's Chamber. It becomes a slideshow.

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#33 mems_1224
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@princeofshapeir said:

@mems_1224 said:

@princeofshapeir said:

@mems_1224 said:

it had some good ideas but the UI was garbage, the graphics sucked and I got bored of the gameplay after a while because I couldn't build the character I wanted.

The UI is pretty good and a lot better than Skyrim's. The graphics aren't very detailed and the pop-in is some of the worst I've seen in a console game, but the scale of environments, lighting, and enemy animations were excellent. Building a character is also really flexible; you just play the vocation you want and your stats automatically scale as you level it.

Not sure what Skyrim has to do with Dragon's Dogma. The graphics were garbage and so were the character designs. The enemy designs are the only good looking parts of that game. No, you can't build the character you want because skills are locked into certain weapons which are locked into different types of vocations. In my RPGs I liked to use a sword and bow and I can't do that in Dragon's Dogma unless I pick in assassin which was a boring class to play. The archery also sucked major ass other than the magic archer.

The point is you're able to freely switch between vocations. You aren't tied down to one forever, and your stats scale based on which you play more. And Assassin is one of the most fun vocations to play lol, they literally combine everything Fighters and Striders have and have the most weapon choices of any vocation, so if you wanted you could have gone sword and bow. This is also the first time I've heard someone call the archery in Dragon's Dogma bad; it's honestly the best I've seen in a game of this genre.

You aren't able to freely switch vocations because you always have to go to the capital to do it. The non magic archery in that game is fucking garbage. If anyone thought it was actually good their opinions on games are forever void. Thats like saying the archery in Dark Souls is good. Like, have you ever played a game with a fun bow?

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#34 Lulu_Lulu
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To be fair playing as a Ranger in every Action RPG always pales in comparison to other close combat classes.

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#35 commander
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@alcapello said:

Anybody has any extreme opinions about this game?

best dragons i've ever seen were in dragon's dogma, sometimes i dare to say i like the game evne more than dark souls

*flame shield*

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#36 Lulu_Lulu
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LOL... Dragon's Actually has a Flame Shield... I think its called the Scorched Pelta... :D

and yeah... The Dragon's Are just fine, only problem is some scenarios renders your Vocation Useless, especially the Mage, Sorcerer, Warrior and Fighter. They just aren't equiped to every eventuallity and the pawns aren't particularly usefull....

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#38 lamprey263
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The game had some good ideas but overall the game was a big letdown, and was way too short. Kind of the same disappointment I had with games like Fable and Rage, just ended when you thought it was just starting to get good.

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#39 Lulu_Lulu
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Really ? I thought it dragged on for too long.... Even by RPG Standards... But anyway its got Much Much bigger problems than length...

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#40 CTR360
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good game i hope sequel coming on ps4 and xbox one

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#41 commander
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@evildead6789

LOL... Dragon's Actually has a Flame Shield... I think its called the Scorched Pelta... :D

and yeah... The Dragon's Are just fine, only problem is some scenarios renders your Vocation Useless, especially the Mage, Sorcerer, Warrior and Fighter. They just aren't equiped to every eventuallity and the pawns aren't particularly usefull....

killed that dragon the first time I fought it, with a ranger. Epic battle though, lasted for an hour for sure.

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#42 Lulu_Lulu
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It lasted only 30-50 minutes for me.... But thats because I spent 10 hours killing Chimeras Golems and Cyclops to level up. :p

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#43 Lulu_Lulu
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It lasted only 30-50 minutes for me.... But thats because I spent 10 hours killing Chimeras Golems and Cyclops to level up. :p

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#44 ShepardCommandr
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Abysmal game.

Cannot remember one good thing about it,even vanilla Skyrim was more fun.

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#45 Lulu_Lulu
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Fun is a very vague term.

Its been said several times before, gamers need to expand their vocabulary in order to express what they really man.

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#46 ddlcpc
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I'm playin... it after i'm done with vindictus

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#47 blueinheaven
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I played it because I liked the spells. Plot, characters etc were an insomniacs dream. A year later if I played it again, I would play it for the spells. I liked the spells.

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#48  Edited By bussinrounds
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@kozzy1234 said:

Good gameplay and controls but horrible story, characters and dialogue.

I'd rather play this than Skyrim any day though. At least it gas good gamplay/combat. Skyrim has bad gameplay AND shitty character/writing/dialogs/... Yet it's held in such high regard for some reason, I'll never understand.

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#49 Ballroompirate
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It was amazing

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#50 blueinheaven
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@bussinrounds: I don't get it either. I really loved Morrowind, one of the best games ever made but Skyrim does anyone truly give a damn about the game itself (which is pants) or do they all just run around freeform style loving the fact they can you know... 'do stuff'?

Mindboggling. Even Oblivion was better and that had 'shitty character/writing/dialogs' as well.