DS vs Psp Jrpgs

With the third birthday being recently announced, a Star Ocaen game, Suikoden 2 rerelease, etc the PSP wins by a landslide.Vandalvideo

LMFAO. Do you people even research things before they type?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]With the third birthday being recently announced, a Star Ocaen game, Suikoden 2 rerelease, etc the PSP wins by a landslide.HarlockJC

DQ >> Star Ocean

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]With the third birthday being recently announced, a Star Ocaen game, Suikoden 2 rerelease, etc the PSP wins by a landslide.mubarakibnumar

LMFAO. Do you people even research things before they type?

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]With the third birthday being recently announced, a Star Ocaen game, Suikoden 2 rerelease, etc the PSP wins by a landslide.HarlockJC

DQ >> Star Ocean

Suikoden > All. Its just true

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]With the third birthday being recently announced, a Star Ocaen game, Suikoden 2 rerelease, etc the PSP wins by a landslide.Vandalvideo

DQ >> Star Ocean

Not sure where your going with that. Just saying I rather play DQ and even FF remakes over Star Ocean remakes. Even thought I myself will be playing both.

Not sure where your going with that. Just saying I rather play DQ and even FF remakes over Star Ocean remakes. Even thought I myself will be playing both.HarlockJC

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]With the third birthday being recently announced, a Star Ocaen game, Suikoden 2 rerelease, etc the PSP wins by a landslide.SpruceCaboose

DQ >> Star Ocean

Suikoden > All. Its just true

I have never played a Suikoden game. Based on the review scores the first one was 6.5 and the second one was 7.6.

Then again review scores can be pointless sometimes. If you say it good then I will give it a try. But better than DQ9, sorry I just don't see it.

I have never played a Suikoden game. Based on the review scores the first one was 6.5 and the second one was 7.6.Then again review scores can be pointless sometimes. If you say it good then I will give it a try. But better than DQ9, sorry I just don't see it. HarlockJC

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I have never played a Suikoden game. Based on the review scores the first one was 6.5 and the second one was 7.6.Then again review scores can be pointless sometimes. If you say it good then I will give it a try. But better than DQ9, sorry I just don't see it. Vandalvideo

The Final Fantasy complex?

Care to elaborate?

I have never played a Suikoden game. Based on the review scores the first one was 6.5 and the second one was 7.6.

Then again review scores can be pointless sometimes. If you say it good then I will give it a try. But better than DQ9, sorry I just don't see it.

HarlockJC

If you can find the originals somewhere (They are rather rare) I highly suggest trying them. The war battles are great fun, as is the compulsion to get all 108 characters

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]With the third birthday being recently announced, a Star Ocaen game, Suikoden 2 rerelease, etc the PSP wins by a landslide.Vandalvideo

LMFAO. Do you people even research things before they type?

What landslide if i may ask?

Saying that the psp wins by a landslide is like console gamers saying consoles have better fps's than the pc. Do yourself a favour and go and check the list of both available and upcoming rpgs for the ds.

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]Not sure where your going with that. Just saying I rather play DQ and even FF remakes over Star Ocean remakes. Even thought I myself will be playing both.Vandalvideo

I have been playing DQ games from the point of the fact I still have my DQ1 with the Nintendo Power which had the map in it. DQ4 is one of my all time favored games to the fact I even have a sealed copy of the game. So sorry I disagree with you on DQ vs SO but I have not played Suikoden so I could be wrong there. I will give it a try when it comes out.

The Final Fantasy complex? Care to elaborate? WAIW

pSaying that the psp wins by a landslide is like console gamers saying consoles have better fps's than the pc. Do yourself a favour and go and check the list of both available and upcoming rpgs for the ds. mubarakibnumar

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

I have never played a Suikoden game. Based on the review scores the first one was 6.5 and the second one was 7.6.

Then again review scores can be pointless sometimes. If you say it good then I will give it a try. But better than DQ9, sorry I just don't see it.

SpruceCaboose

If you can find the originals somewhere (They are rather rare) I highly suggest trying them. The war battles are great fun, as is the compulsion to get all 108 characters

Based on the fact you are stating it a good enoght JRPG to play I will buy it. I will wait for the PSP remake though. I have been enjoing playing JRPGS more on my handhelds over my Consoles has of late.

Any idea when it will be coming out?

tbh I find the DS seems to have more true RPG's (not pure dungeon crawlers or SRPG's) but a lot of the ones announced seem to vanish into the trans-international ether.Articuno76

Just pointing it out because I want a sequal a great dungeon crawler is Orks and Elves for the DS and if less than $10 new at Gamestop. Graphics are not the best but it a fun game.

[QUOTE="WAIW"]The Final Fantasy complex? Care to elaborate? Vandalvideo

Or maybe the real issue is that LO does in fact do nothing remarkable...from what I've played that is certainly the case. It's a PS2 game running on newer hardware (in many ways it's actually technically behind the PS2 standard in many ways such as with loads). JRPG's work well on handhelds simply because they've done little new with the technology since the PS1/2 shift which has led to a sort of staling of the genre.

Sure LO may well borrow good elements but it does "borrow" rather than create and more importantly it does nothing to reinvgorate a genre that really needs it.

What mostly annoys me about the genre is the need to pad out the game with dungeons or transgressions that have nothing ot do with the core story...the result is poorly paced stories in comparision to many older RPG's. A good example of this is Eternal Sonata which exemplifies the use of a very set dungeon/boss/town sequences often throwing in a dungeon just to uphold that structure.

Or maybe the real issue is that LO does in fact do nothing remarkable...from what I've played that is certainly the case. It's a PS2 game running on newer hardware (in many ways it's actually technically behind the PS2 standard in many ways such as with loads). JRPG's work well on handhelds simply because they've done little new with the technology since the PS1/2 shift which has led to a sort of staling of the genre.Sure LO may well borrow good elements but it does "borrow" rather than create and more importantly it does nothing to reinvgorate a genre that really needs it.Articuno76

Based on the fact you are stating it a good enoght JRPG to play I will buy it. I will wait for the PSP remake though. I have been enjoing playing JRPGS more on my handhelds over my Consoles has of late.

Any idea when it will be coming out?

HarlockJC

http://kotaku.com/388752/suikoden-coming-to-playstation-store

That is about as good as the info gets. It was released as a Sukoden 1 & 2 set in Japan in 2006 (So if you know Japanese, great import idea), but this may be the only way to get Suikoden goodness in the US.

[QUOTE="Articuno76"]Or maybe the real issue is that LO does in fact do nothing remarkable...from what I've played that is certainly the case. It's a PS2 game running on newer hardware (in many ways it's actually technically behind the PS2 standard in many ways such as with loads). JRPG's work well on handhelds simply because they've done little new with the technology since the PS1/2 shift which has led to a sort of staling of the genre.Sure LO may well borrow good elements but it does "borrow" rather than create and more importantly it does nothing to reinvgorate a genre that really needs it.Vandalvideo

The difference is this...FF has something in place of the fact that it does little new, the pacing is normally at least good whereas LO is labourisouly slow paced. On top of that the load times in LO cannot be compared to FF12 if anything there are more loads in that game than in most PS1 games...longer too. LO however is simply just what you seem to be describing FF as...a copycat. LO is the real copycat here and it has little in the way of excellent excecution at the very least to make up for it.

As for the last comment...chicken and egg. FF drives the genre and the genre it drive it absorbs in turn. LO was unoriginal-it hurt the game. FF may well be but ultimately it hurts those games less perhaps because those games at least have a distinct identity or maybe just because the execution is better.

The difference is this...FF has something in place of the fact that it does little new, the pacing is normally at least good whereas LO is labourisouly slow paced. On top of that the load times in LO cannot be compared to FF12 if anything there are more loads in that game than in most PS1 games...longer too. LO however is simply just what you seem to be describing FF as...a copycat. LO is the real copycat here and it has little in the way of excellent excecution at the very least to make up for it.As for the last comment...chicken and egg. FF drives the genre and the genre it drive it absorbs in turn.Articuno76

[QUOTE="WAIW"]The Final Fantasy complex? Care to elaborate? Vandalvideo

Let's agree to disagree.

I could undertsand your viewpoint if you're only talking about some of the PS2 Final Fantasies (XII just sucked). But for the most part, the name is a JRPG standard -- from I-X, from Tactics to WotL, the name guarenteed quality. Perhaps not daring or innovative, but always solid, with tons of polish and competent at worst gameplay. Few other titles guarentee that in the genre.

The problem I find with your theory; Chrono Trigger anyone? Pokemon? TWEWY? Disgaea? Kingdom Hearts? Xenogears? Etrian Odyssey? Dragon Quest? Hell, even Mario gets tons of RPG love on the handhelds. Sure half of those are other Square Enix titles, but it just goes to show, if its a quality JRPG, the title won't hold it back.

) But for the most part, the name is a JRPG standard -- from I-X, from Tactics to WotL, the name guarenteed quality. Perhaps not daring or innovative, but always solid, with tons of polish and competent at worst gameplay. Few other titles guarentee that in the genre.The problem I find with your theory; Chrono Trigger anyone? Pokemon? TWEWY? Disgaea? Kingdom Hearts? Xenogears? Etrian Odyssey? Dragon Quest? Hell, even Mario gets tons of RPG love on the handhelds. Sure half of those are other Square Enix titles, but it just goes to show, if its a quality JRPG, the title won't hold it back.WAIW

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I have never played a Suikoden game. Based on the review scores the first one was 6.5 and the second one was 7.6.

Then again review scores can be pointless sometimes. If you say it good then I will give it a try. But better than DQ9, sorry I just don't see it.

SpruceCaboose

If you can find the originals somewhere (They are rather rare) I highly suggest trying them. The war battles are great fun, as is the compulsion to get all 108 characters

I missed one guy near the end in Suikoden 5 and didn't have the will to go on. :(

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

Based on the fact you are stating it a good enoght JRPG to play I will buy it. I will wait for the PSP remake though. I have been enjoing playing JRPGS more on my handhelds over my Consoles has of late.

Any idea when it will be coming out?

SpruceCaboose

http://kotaku.com/388752/suikoden-coming-to-playstation-store

That is about as good as the info gets. It was released as a Sukoden 1 & 2 set in Japan in 2006 (So if you know Japanese, great import idea), but this may be the only way to get Suikoden goodness in the US.

Oh so you get me into looking forward to a game only to tell me it not coming out. Why even list it has a game on the PSP. I know some people import but still.

Anyways "nothing that ever happened on Earth could possibly make the slightest bit of sense."

[QUOTE="WAIW"][QUOTE="blitzkid1"]

This

>>> All DS Rpgs

blitzkid1

...You know the DS is getting a KH too, right?

Prequal >> Spinoff.