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#1  Edited By drummerdave9099
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ffV01P5tBk

PS4 1080p vs Xbone 900p

"Image quality holds up very well on both platforms"

"Zero differences in textures, geometry, and effects"

"Lower quality shadows on Xbone"

"Reflection mapping and impact rippling of water a match"

Fanboy Wars commence

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#2 lundy86_4
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I'm not sure why we're bothering to argue the graphics of a From Software game. It's not exactly where they excel.

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#3 Pedro
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Now lets argue over the marginal difference. We all know that when we play games we are consistently bothered by the fact that someone else is playing it at a slightly better or worse resolution or framerate.

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#4 Blabadon
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The differences between low and maxed PC settings isn't that noticeable either.

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#5 hrt_rulz01
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We've already had a thread on this... we definitely don't need another thread full of utter drivel.

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#6 mjorh
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It's DS so gameplay matters more hence fps should be the top priority....which, as always, leads to PC being the best choice.

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#7 sailor232
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Now lets see how many times and for how long the frame drops below 30, that is more important to me.

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#8 Elaisse
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Why are we bothering with console lets compare the pc version.

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#9  Edited By naughtyottsel
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Gosh darn it these rotten super cows are doing it yet again, keep it up cows mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo moooooooooooooooo moooooooo, we know Xbox One is shit but do the cows need to keep reminding us, super cows are the scum of the industry so keep mooooing super cows.

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#10  Edited By Yrkoon99
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holy **** 100p difference? and some one wants to argue about it????? my pc must be godly with it's 1920x1200 p monitor...... now im going to play my wii :)

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#11 thehig1
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Both the consoles run the game at 30fps, I consider that broken and unplayable especially for a game that relies on timing

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#12 Primorandomguy
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@naughtyottsel: quite hypocritical coming from a cow yourself. Proving it by calling the one shit. Lol if X1 is shit PS4 is massive diarrhea.

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#13 naughtyottsel
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@primorandomguy said:

@naughtyottsel: quite hypocritical coming from a cow yourself. Proving it by calling the one shit. Lol if X1 is shit PS4 is massive diarrhea.

-looks at the PS4 that he hasn't used in over a month then looks at the 3DS he has been using non-stop for 3 weeks-

Nah lem, PS4 trounces Xbox soz

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#14 Primorandomguy
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@naughtyottsel: What makes the X1 shit?

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#15 naughtyottsel
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@primorandomguy said:

@naughtyottsel: What makes the X1 shit?

What makes the PS4 massive diarrhea?

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@primorandomguy said:

@naughtyottsel: quite hypocritical coming from a cow yourself. Proving it by calling the one shit. Lol if X1 is shit PS4 is massive diarrhea.

hey now, he's no cow. he's just a crazy person who hears voices. get it right

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#17 naughtyottsel
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@mems_1224 said:
@primorandomguy said:

@naughtyottsel: quite hypocritical coming from a cow yourself. Proving it by calling the one shit. Lol if X1 is shit PS4 is massive diarrhea.

hey now, he's no cow. he's just a crazy person who hears voices. get it right

I'm hearing a voice right now, sounds like a wank so it's either primo or yourself....might even be both.

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#18  Edited By 93BlackHawk93
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Now let's see how SW argues such triviality for about five pages more.

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#19 silversix_
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Why are shadows lower quality in almost every game? Isn't lower resolution and frames enough for the Xbox One standards?

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#20 Primorandomguy
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@mems_1224: He does come off as a psycho.

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#21 ermacness
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@Pedro said:

Now lets argue over the marginal difference. We all know that when we play games we are consistently bothered by the fact that someone else is playing it at a slightly better or worse resolution or framerate.

You must've completely missed SW last generation.

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#22  Edited By iandizion713
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Im surprised, the game looks like it could run on Wii U in 1080p.

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#23 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@primorandomguy: You do know who he really is right? I mean that isn't his first account.

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#24 Primorandomguy
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@i_p_daily: No, who is he? All I know is he acts like he's unbiased but obviously hates xbox.

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@primorandomguy: Well I've only just started posting on GS again, and have noticed some of his comments sound extremely familiar with my old sparring partner davem, says he loves Nintendo, constantly gives Sony a free pass and shits on MS every chance he gets. And lastly brings out the insults and comes across as crazy whenever anyone confronts him.

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#26 kingtito
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@i_p_daily said:

@primorandomguy: Well I've only just started posting on GS again, and have noticed some of his comments sound extremely familiar with my old sparring partner davem, says he loves Nintendo, constantly gives Sony a free pass and shits on MS every chance he gets. And lastly brings out the insults and comes across as crazy whenever anyone confronts him.

DING DING DING!!!!!! He is one and the same.

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#27 Primorandomguy
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@i_p_daily: Oh yeah, you might be on to something. When he called Halo 5 garbage any opinion he has is moot. Halo 5 has the best multiplayer this gen, at least from what I played. Its fantastic.

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@primorandomguy: I also remember dave throwing his gamertag around every time someone said he didn't own an XB1, I can't remember what threads they were in, but, im sure his gamertag is the same name as the one he has on here.

After searching xboxgamertag.com it confirms to me that naughty & dave are the same crazy person lol

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#29 Primorandomguy
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@i_p_daily: haha that's crazy. Makes sense why he bashes SO, and Halo 5. Davem is a super cow. So naughty is his low key hate xbox account. It still came through though.

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#30  Edited By m3dude1
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this game is ugly as hell. the art is just awful.

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@primorandomguy: If I remember right, he asked the mods to ban his account and he said he wouldn't be back. He had the chance to come back and be anonymous, and maybe be less crazy and he just couldn't do it.

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@iandizion713 said:

Im surprised, the game looks like it could run on Wii U in 1080p.

Dunno about that but probably 720p if the U's cpu wasn't so tripe.

I don't think it looks that low tech, now performance on the other hand...

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#33 StrongBlackVine
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@m3dude1 said:

this game is ugly as hell. the art is just awful.

I don't think the game is ugly, but the game is full of heavily reused assets from Bloodborne. I don't think the Gothic style of Bloodborne meshes well with the medieval art of Dark Souls.

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#34  Edited By skektek
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@sailor232 said:

Now lets see how many times and for how long the frame drops below 30, that is more important to me.

I've never cared about the framerate dips in Soulsbourne. I consider it a natural extension of the difficulty.

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#35 skektek
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@primorandomguy said:

@naughtyottsel: What makes the X1 shit?

The company, the hardware, and the games (or lack thereof).

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#36 Howmakewood
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@skektek said:
@sailor232 said:

Now lets see how many times and for how long the frame drops below 30, that is more important to me.

I've never cared about the framerate dips in Soulsbourne. I consider it a natural extension of the difficulty.

you can cap your fps to 5 on pc for the ultimate difficulty

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#37 Heil68
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No surprise that the PS4 has the best console version.

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#38 Zero_epyon
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@ermacness said:
@Pedro said:

Now lets argue over the marginal difference. We all know that when we play games we are consistently bothered by the fact that someone else is playing it at a slightly better or worse resolution or framerate.

You must've completely missed SW last generation.

Does it have da foliage?

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#39 iambatman7986
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Souls games are typically so dark you can't really see the details anyways. I can't see where I would have a problem playing this on either console as long as the framerate holds up. I'll probably get it on PC though for that 60 fps goodness. I loved Demon's Souls, but man that framerate is hard to overlook.

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#40 kvally
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And dat gap narrows...

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#41 Xdrone
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@kvally said:

And dat gap narrows...

Yep! 900p is only 180p away from 1080p. I bet most people here can't even tell the difference.

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#42 Flyincloud1116
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@ermacness said:
@Pedro said:

Now lets argue over the marginal difference. We all know that when we play games we are consistently bothered by the fact that someone else is playing it at a slightly better or worse resolution or framerate.

You must've completely missed SW last generation.

Nope, he was on the opposite side so it really mattered then.

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#43 AM-Gamer
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@lundy86_4: its actually a good looking game though.

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#44 lundy86_4
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@AM-Gamer: I'd go so far as to argue that they're all good looking, largely due to their art-styles.

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#45 EvanTheGamer
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Since Dark Souls 2 and Bloodborn, the graphics and framerate have always been well optimized, no surprise here.

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#46  Edited By SolidTy
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@Yrkoon99 said:

holy **** 100p difference? and some one wants to argue about it????? my pc must be godly with it's 1920x1200 p monitor...... now im going to play my wii :)

It's not a 100p though. If you rounded it would be closer to 200, but to be accurate, it's "180p" difference. You must not be aware, but that is a 30+% difference in image fidelity. It's actually a difference of 633,000 pixels.

(1600 x 900) = 1,440,000 pixels.

(1920 x 1080) = 2,073,000 pixels.

633,000 more pixels.

So what looks like a tiny, measly "180p" difference is actually quite deceptive.

To give a greater perspective, last gen PS360 comparisons here (I was in many threads in SW back then as well) and across the internet, people argued for 10-20p differences (many times early in the generation this was to the 360's favor).

To be clear, I have owned PCs and all the gaming consoles for decades/generations and I've seen posters come and go, but I wanted to clear up the "180p difference" for those that aren't quite sure what all this means. Clearly though, one could get a DRM PC copy that runs at higher resolutions or go with a non-DRM physical copy on consoles and take the best version of that bunch. It depends how much of that 1080p HD TV you want to use, and sometimes what console someone is stuck with.

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#47 AM-Gamer
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@lundy86_4: I think people underestimate how much better it looks then DS2.

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#48 SolidTy
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@ermacness said:
@Pedro said:

Now lets argue over the marginal difference. We all know that when we play games we are consistently bothered by the fact that someone else is playing it at a slightly better or worse resolution or framerate.

You must've completely missed SW last generation.

COMPLETELY. It was all the rage to argue about 10p differences and 3fps advantages, lol.

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#49 Howmakewood
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yes it's known thing that these 720p vs 900p and 900p v 1080p are major differences, but when it becomes to 1080p vs 1440p or 30fps vs 60fps there's barely any difference

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#50 Legend002
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ps4 win again