DS3 Graphics PS4 vs Xbox One Digital Foundry

You forgot to mention that the final output for both systems would be 1080p making the difference negligible because it would require the user to see both games overlayed and toggle back to back to even notice the difference.

No, it wasn't forgotten.

The difference isn't negligible by last gen standards or older gamers that remember the much more negligible differences even just last gen between Wii, 360 and PS3...

Due to some people's agendas, ignorance, poor eyesight, poor equipment, or plain old fanboyin', I've come to realize LONG AGO when new generations of technology is ushered in, this song and dance will continue.

When the NX, Xbox Two, PS5, Pepsi Power Games Machine, WiiWiiU2, NX2, Intellivision HD, Xbox Threeie, PS69, Xbox 360squared, Dorito Graphics Chips, etc there is always going to be some users that will downplay the differences between those machines as negligible. Eh. I've seen users explain multiplat differences as negligible for NES vs. SMS, Genesis vs. SNES, Wii vs. 360, PS2 vs. Dreamcast, Dreamcast vs. Xbox, PS2 vs. Gamecube, PS1 vs. Saturn, N64 vs. PS1...it's an old gimmick. We also see it in the PC community between very similar GPUs. Of course, people are also intent on using the decade plus "upscaling" argument, as if many of us didn't read those tired arguments back in 2005 and prior.

My post stands and it was meant to inform those that care and want real tangible information. That information is for those that have the actual proper machines and fantastic monitors/HD sets care. The Enthusiasts. Others won't care, and that's fine too. Let them be passionate about something else. I'm also a huge audiophile, and I notice sound in movies, music, and games all the time and I don't need anything overlayed and it's the same for visuals, but to each their own.

Peace out broski.

That long rant changes nothing. Would there people who care about such negligible difference that they themselves would struggle to discern? Yes. But the difference is negligible as in barely noticeable and this is a truth that most people have to simply accept. I don't care about the difference of a last gen or the gen before that. That has no bearings. People being idiotic about the differences in the last gen doesn't justify or make your argument more valid.

Agree to disagree.

There is no argument with you, I posted facts for another user (and those that don't understand the differences in pixels) and you quoting me clearly have a horse in this race.

I don't care that you find the differences more minute than others. Millions of others disagree with your sentiment and have for many years before you popped up in SW. I don't know about your medical ocular history, what kind of lower end equipment you use, and if you even own the machines in question. I know my experience though.

I don't have or care since I know no matter the generation, no matter the differences, there is always users like you that will sprout up and declare there is hardly any differences.

It's all relative. I know what I know as an owner of all the machines since launches (for various generations) and my personal experience. It's not like I'm confined to consoles as a PC gamer since before Id games existed (made a little game called Doom once upon a time). Others have their opinion and their own qualifications. Nothing you say changes that.

You have an opinion on what is negligible. So do we all. Where you draw the line is different for others. Congrats though on your beliefs. I don't know what else to say. Some people find that 633,000 pixels are not so negligible. The pixel differences could triple over the next few gens of hardware, and there will always be people that find the differences negligible. To each their own.

As I said before, Peace out.

If you agree to disagree on the matter the need for a long rant following negates the notion of agreeing to disagree. Please don't try to make claims about millions disagreeing as validity. There are factual elements that you are conveniently leaving out because it would negatively affect your assertion such as pixel density and view distance. You can try to claim that there is something wrong with my vision or equipment but non of this changes the facts of discernibility based on pixel density and distance. There is reason why videos rely heavily on superimposing images to show the minute differences and the reliance of this this technique to somehow justify the claim of the differences especially when claiming that its huge. You can fancy the placebo effect of knowing that there is a difference and attempt to blow it out proportion or rely on other non related scenarios to validate your illusion of these resolution significance.

As you have said before, Peace out. Well until you feel the need to reply because you agree to disagree. :|

kinda agree. Dark Souls/Demon's Souls had their style. BB had its own style. Now that DkS3 is running on BB engine, they decided to mix both series and i don't know how i feel about this. Demons and Dark were perfectly fine as if (art style wise), why change? Its not like they ran out of ideas for different locals and such.