due to poor sales of the PS3... The fate of FFXIII and MGS4?

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#51 GrlGmr
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[QUOTE="GrlGmr"][QUOTE="Haseokicksass"]

stupidest thread ever?

PS3 outsold Xbox 360 at launch. I think it was PS3 at 1m and Xbox360 had 660k at launch.  AND WHATS THIS! Xbox 360 had a wordwide launch, PS# ISENT OUT IN EUROPE AND OTHER PLACES.

Blinblingthing

The 360 also had continuing supply issues, where it appears that the PS3 does not. The Wii also has supply issues, and it is still managing to beat the PS3 in sales.

Its PS3 who had the worse suplying issues SIR.

Oh, is that so? Then why were some stores sold out of the 360 until April and the Wiis fly off shelves while there's plenty of reports circulating of PS3s in stock? Why did Jack Tretton state they were making 1 million units a month? There were supply issues at the beginning for the first month or two, but now I can walk into just about any big box retailer and find a PS3.
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#52 Me-Ur-Daddy
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]lol. haters hating and begging for PS3 exclusives.

you haters keep proving that PS3 has better exclusives.
xxThyLordxx
try reading his post again..no where did he mention the 360 :roll:



did I mention "Xbox" or "lemmings" or "360"? :roll:


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#53 toxicmog
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[QUOTE="justdog11"]Let's face it: PS3 sales are embarassing for Sony, especially after the PS2. I don't believe MGS4 nor FFXIII would have begun to be made for the PS3 if square and kojima knew how this would turn out. With no glimmer of a price drop in site and Sony's continueing with bad-decision-making, do you think its actually possibly for MGS4 and FFXIII to get underwhelming sales? How many fans of japanese games will be willing to shell out the 560 - 720 for one or both of these titles on either PS3 SKU? It'd be a very symbolic event towards sony's downfall.
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It hasn't even launched in the BIGGEST market in the world and yet you lemmings are saying the PS3 is dead. :lol:

They save the biggest market to last. How kind :D I dont care anycase, we get the best games last. By the time FF launches in Japan we wont see it for another 2 years ¬_¬ Not that i care :D FF 12 was the last one i will play. *fires up number 6*
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#54 Me-Ur-Daddy
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[QUOTE="Blinblingthing"][QUOTE="GrlGmr"][QUOTE="Haseokicksass"]

stupidest thread ever?

PS3 outsold Xbox 360 at launch. I think it was PS3 at 1m and Xbox360 had 660k at launch.  AND WHATS THIS! Xbox 360 had a wordwide launch, PS# ISENT OUT IN EUROPE AND OTHER PLACES.

GrlGmr

The 360 also had continuing supply issues, where it appears that the PS3 does not. The Wii also has supply issues, and it is still managing to beat the PS3 in sales.

Its PS3 who had the worse suplying issues SIR.

Oh, is that so? Then why were some stores sold out of the 360 until April and the Wiis fly off shelves while there's plenty of reports circulating of PS3s in stock? Why did Jack Tretton state they were making 1 million units a month? There were supply issues at the beginning for the first month or two, but now I can walk into just about any big box retailer and find a PS3.

if you took some time to think before you posted, you would know that both 360 and wii launched globally, ps3 didnt. and it hasnt even launched euro and aussie yet and many other territories. with a global launch supplies would be much more limited, why do you think sony made europe wait? cus they didnt want the problems 360 had and wii is having right now. i was tryin to buy a wii for my neice yesterday and theres not one in the whole state of california basically !
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#55 king_pin_87
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[QUOTE="justdog11"]

[QUOTE="solidsnakeo"]those games won't be released until early 2008 and by then hideo and square will decide wether to port them to 360 or not depending on how the fate of the ps3 looksCarlosPontinas

Do you think it'll be that easy?  I have no idea wether a game built ground-up for PS3 on blu-ray can easily be transfered to DVD9 360.  What do you think?

Your heart is in the right place but you have to understand Sony fans learned to be unscrupulous and will do everything to undermine you or to shout you down.

Only sony fans do that? wii and 360 fans are MUCH worse.
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#56 GrlGmr
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]if you took some time to think before you posted, you would know that both 360 and wii launched globally, ps3 didnt. and it hasnt even launched euro and aussie yet and many other territories. with a global launch supplies would be much more limited, why do you think sony made europe wait? cus they didnt want the problems 360 had and wii is having right now. i was tryin to buy a wii for my neice yesterday and theres not one in the whole state of california basically !Me-Ur-Daddy
And what bearing does that have on what I said, ie that the Wii and 360 were having supply issues where the PS3 was not? They are/were having issues supplying the larger market and the Wiii still manages to sell more units. Personally, I doubt the PS3 sales numbers will match the Wii's numbers globally, even when it does launch in the rest of the world. The cost is too high and there's no real 'killer app'. *shrug* It will be interesting to see how the PS3 does in Europe, with the gimped backwards compatibility. I haven't checked, but I assume Australia is getting the same deal. Since the PS3 has no region lock and NTSC consoles can be played on PAL TVs with a converter, I wonder if there will be much of a market for PS3s imported imported from Asia or NA in those areas.
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Let's face it: PS3 sales are embarassing for Sony, especially after the PS2.  I don't believe MGS4 nor FFXIII would have begun to be made for the PS3 if square and kojima knew how this would turn out.  With no glimmer of a price drop in site and Sony's continueing with bad-decision-making, do you think its actually possibly for MGS4 and FFXIII to get underwhelming sales?  How many fans of japanese games will be willing to shell out the 560 - 720 for one or both of these titles on either PS3 SKU?  It'd be a very symbolic event towards sony's downfall.
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If PS3 sales are embarassing, then what do you call 360 sales at this time last year?

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#58 Kahuna_1
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ignored my post...
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#59 Kimahriii
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Man PS3 sales are soo bad they only sold 2million in 4months and thats with supply shortages man their doing horrible.
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#60 Kahuna_1
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stop comparing a 250 console to 699 console when it comes to how much it sold.ff7isnumbaone

wow ps3 is 699 now

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#61 jazreal
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[QUOTE="justdog11"]Let's face it: PS3 sales are embarassing for Sony, especially after the PS2. I don't believe MGS4 nor FFXIII would have begun to be made for the PS3 if square and kojima knew how this would turn out. With no glimmer of a price drop in site and Sony's continueing with bad-decision-making, do you think its actually possibly for MGS4 and FFXIII to get underwhelming sales? How many fans of japanese games will be willing to shell out the 560 - 720 for one or both of these titles on either PS3 SKU? It'd be a very symbolic event towards sony's downfall.
Hammerofjustice
It hasn't even launched in the BIGGEST market in the world and yet you lemmings are saying the PS3 is dead. :lol:

and the biggest market in the world is...........? i know your not gonna say europe. check the facts first before you answer :) and as far as europe goes...they are pretty pissed of right now at sony...havent you heard?
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#62 jxditu
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Man PS3 sales are soo bad they only sold 2million in 4months and thats with supply shortages man their doing horrible.Kimahriii
what supply shortages does sony have again? dont say the blu ray diode because they solved that months ago.
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#63 ChimTheGrim21
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The truth is.. you just have to wait and see. Stop arguing about something we all know nothing about. You have no way of knowing what is going to happen in the next 8 months.
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#64 nacademy
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Wow... you seem to forget that both developers have openly said they are both only possible on the PS3 and what benefit world FFXIII on the 360 have in JAPAN?
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Let's face it: PS3 sales are embarassing for Sony, especially after the PS2. I don't believe MGS4 nor FFXIII would have begun to be made for the PS3 if square and kojima knew how this would turn out.
justdog11


Naturally, those Japanese games will stay on the PS3. I don't know if you happened to notice, but Japan has utterly rejected the Xbox 360.
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#66 Trading_Zoner
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poor sales?

PS3 is selling at a faster rate than xbox 360 was in NA when it was 3 months old.

It is demolishing it in Japan, and when it launches in europe it will outpace it there as well.


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#67 XxX_Slython_XxX
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poor sales?

PS3 is selling at a faster rate than xbox 360 was in NA when it was 3 months old.

It is demolishing it in Japan, and when it launches in europe it will outpace it there as well.


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#68 SOTE
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i am buying a ps3 right when those 2 games come out so yeah...i think a lot of people will do that but if it goes another console i'd go with it
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PS3 sales may not be great now, but any idiot would know that games like Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy are system sellers. Odds are if the PS3 was scrapped, so would FF13 considering how much of an abysmal flop FF11 was on the 360 and Square isnt stupid enough to put their best game franchise on the 360 where it would fail miserably. Once there is a bigger selection of games to choose from and some big titles, the PS3 will sell fast, until then, anyone who thinks that Metal Gear and FF13 arent going to be on the PS3 are just pathetic. FF13 and MGS4 have been in development for ages now, you really think that the developers are just going to scrap the projects after spending so much money to create the games.

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#70 DSgamer64
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[QUOTE="justdog11"]Let's face it: PS3 sales are embarassing for Sony, especially after the PS2. I don't believe MGS4 nor FFXIII would have begun to be made for the PS3 if square and kojima knew how this would turn out.
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Naturally, those Japanese games will stay on the PS3. I don't know if you happened to notice, but Japan has utterly rejected the Xbox 360.

QFT. Once the big name games come out, the PS3 will sell loads, especially when FF13 is PS3 exclusive and it will sell out in Japan along with the PS3 since its such a huge game over there.

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XBOX 360  has Lost Odissey and next Splinter Cell exclusive, this is enough if you want to know
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#72 Perception1
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The sales are actually pretty good.
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#73 superartan
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[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="justdog11"]Let's face it: PS3 sales are embarassing for Sony, especially after the PS2. I don't believe MGS4 nor FFXIII would have begun to be made for the PS3 if square and kojima knew how this would turn out. With no glimmer of a price drop in site and Sony's continueing with bad-decision-making, do you think its actually possibly for MGS4 and FFXIII to get underwhelming sales? How many fans of japanese games will be willing to shell out the 560 - 720 for one or both of these titles on either PS3 SKU? It'd be a very symbolic event towards sony's downfall.
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It hasn't even launched in the BIGGEST market in the world and yet you lemmings are saying the PS3 is dead. :lol:

and the biggest market in the world is...........? i know your not gonna say europe. check the facts first before you answer :) and as far as europe goes...they are pretty pissed of right now at sony...havent you heard?

And yet apparently PS3 has broken all pre order records from consoles before it on lots of store in there :S
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#74 edeasknight
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ps3 will sell phenomenally well when its exclusives start shipping. god knows when thatll be, though
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#75 Timstuff
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What is PS3 selling bad in comparison to? It's selling better than PS2 did during it's launch and post-launch period. It's selling better than Xbox 360 did in it's launch and post launch period, and it's selling better than the Xbox 360 does now as well. It's not selling as well as Wii right now, and it's in stock since Sony has resolved supply issues, and is not trying to stimulate a false demand for it with artificial shortages (I mean, they had plenty of REAL shortages last year). PS3 is selling well. It'll probably catch up with Xbox 360 and/or pass it by the end of '07 as plenty of cool exclusives come out.
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#76 DSgamer64
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[QUOTE="Haseokicksass"]

stupidest thread ever?

PS3 outsold Xbox 360 at launch. I think it was PS3 at 1m and Xbox360 had 660k at launch.  AND WHATS THIS! Xbox 360 had a wordwide launch, PS# ISENT OUT IN EUROPE AND OTHER PLACES.

GrlGmr

The 360 also had continuing supply issues, where it appears that the PS3 does not. The Wii also has supply issues, and it is still managing to beat the PS3 in sales.

The PS3 had supply issues in North America on launch day, where in the hell have you been? You didnt know that many people were mugged and a few people shot and murdered because of the shortage.

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The sales are as strong as the PS2 when it launched...
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#78 blacktorn
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It's selling faster than what the 360 did at the same time!

I wish people would acknowledge this,this is also why 360 owners think the ps3 won't overtake the 360 just because there looking at what the 360 has sold now,not thinking of how long it's actually been out for,the ps3 is going to explode in 2008 and ff13,mgs4 are going to be some of the games that are going to drive its sales up and beyond the 360's.

Unless Microsoft has some BIG titles up it's sleves,fable 2 being one,but i doubt it can stand up to ff13.

P.S i own a 360 and love it so don't tihnk i'm a fanboy by saying this,i'm far from one
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#79 Private_Vegas
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Where did the 360 come into this? TC said that FFXIII and MGS4 might not sell well due to poor PS3 sales. and everyone jumped in with "You lemming will never get MGS/FF" I don't know if thats what we was implying, or if thats what everyone inferred, but grow up. Anyways.....

Anyways, after the Europe launch I don't think the # of consoles sold will be an issue, also, even with the current # of PS3's sold I think FF and MGS will have a large enough market to sell well.

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#80 GrlGmr
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[QUOTE="GrlGmr"][QUOTE="Haseokicksass"]

stupidest thread ever?

PS3 outsold Xbox 360 at launch. I think it was PS3 at 1m and Xbox360 had 660k at launch. AND WHATS THIS! Xbox 360 had a wordwide launch, PS# ISENT OUT IN EUROPE AND OTHER PLACES.

DSgamer64

The 360 also had continuing supply issues, where it appears that the PS3 does not. The Wii also has supply issues, and it is still managing to beat the PS3 in sales.

The PS3 had supply issues in North America on launch day, where in the hell have you been? You didnt know that many people were mugged and a few people shot and murdered because of the shortage.

That's why I said CONTINUING SUPPLY ISSUES. Continuing being the key word here. The supply issues for the PS3 are over. They were more or less over at the beginning of January, and it was possible to find them before Christmas with a little searching. The Wii is still having supply issues, and the 360 had them up through around April.
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#81 justdog11
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Wait, so:

Sony fans before November 06:

PS3 will sell itself!  All casuals will buy it just because it's the PS3, sorry Justdog-- but teh brand name!

Sony fans quarter 1 2007:

... Metal Gear and Final Fantasy will clean those shelves of dusty PS3s! You know, those games that'll probably release 2008.

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#82 justdog11
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Where did the 360 come into this? TC said that FFXIII and MGS4 might not sell well due to poor PS3 sales. and everyone jumped in with "You lemming will never get MGS/FF" I don't know if thats what we was implying, or if thats what everyone inferred, but grow up. Anyways.....

Anyways, after the Europe launch I don't think the # of consoles sold will be an issue, also, even with the current # of PS3's sold I think FF and MGS will have a large enough market to sell well.

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No, I never implyed that, and I don't own nor wish to own an xbox 360.

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Let's face it: PS3 sales are embarassing for Sony, especially after the PS2.  I don't believe MGS4 nor FFXIII would have begun to be made for the PS3 if square and kojima knew how this would turn out.  With no glimmer of a price drop in site and Sony's continueing with bad-decision-making, do you think its actually possibly for MGS4 and FFXIII to get underwhelming sales?  How many fans of japanese games will be willing to shell out the 560 - 720 for one or both of these titles on either PS3 SKU?  It'd be a very symbolic event towards sony's downfall.
justdog11
The PS3 only sold 50K less than the 360 last month. The PS3 is only available in 2 countries. Please explain the poor sales argument.