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#1 NineTailedGoku
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-spec-analysis-durango-vs-orbis?page=comments

Feb 20th couldnt come any sooner.:(

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The secret sauce is the new cell.

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#3 Tessellation
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nothing new same old vgleak

This is for cows that got all mad over SuperDaE for saying specs of durango are old,they called him a troll and liar :lol: he owned most cows from this forum :cool:

''And finally there's the wild card - SuperDAE, arch-leaker extraordinaire, undeniably in possession of early dev kits and the crucial documentation that goes with them. From talking with him directly in order to verify his leaks, we know his information - typically posted on vgleaks.com - is entirely accurate, the only question being how old it is, and whether the hardware has improved since he received his data. He also has - somehow - hands-on access to non-final next-gen dev kits and his pictures of an older Durango dev kit having been verified by trusted sources.''

DF believes final specs won't change that much they're probably right,but why SuperDaE said he is going to provide them with new info?

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nothing new same old vgleak

This is for cows that got all mad over SuperDaE for saying specs of durango are old,they called him a troll and liar :lol: he owned most cows from this forum :cool:

''And finally there's the wild card - SuperDAE, arch-leaker extraordinaire, undeniably in possession of early dev kits and the crucial documentation that goes with them. From talking with him directly in order to verify his leaks, we know his information - typically posted on vgleaks.com - is entirely accurate, the only question being how old it is, and whether the hardware has improved since he received his data. He also has - somehow - hands-on access to non-final next-gen dev kits and his pictures of an older Durango dev kit having been verified by trusted sources.''

DF believes final specs won't change that much they're probably right,but why SuperDaE said he is going to provide them with new info?

Tessellation

Hmm I must have missed this. When did he own the cows?

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#5 Tessellation
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Hmm I must have missed this. When did he own the cows?Blazerdt47
some thread from few days ago,someone posted about this and cows called him a troll and that's making sh!t up.
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#6 kuraimen
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Poor lems :(
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I smell incoming butthurt.

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Someone needs to ban you from making threads
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#9 -CC-
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Might be moving over to Sony this gen.

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Poor lems :(kuraimen

Omg, my sides:lol: Did you make that Gif?

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Someone needs to ban you from making threadsRR360DD

:lol: Why, dont hate the messenger. Butthurt much?

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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]Hmm I must have missed this. When did he own the cows?Tessellation
some thread from few days ago,someone posted about this and cows called him a troll and that's making sh!t up.

To be honest, I don't trust someone who's only response on Twitter was "The more you know". It just screams troll to me.
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#13 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]Hmm I must have missed this. When did he own the cows?clyde46
some thread from few days ago,someone posted about this and cows called him a troll and that's making sh!t up.

To be honest, I don't trust someone who's only response on Twitter was "The more you know". It just screams troll to me.

DF said he is legit,how he acts is a complete different thing.
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Who is this pete-b guy?
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#15 Speedzilla
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Sucks your other thread got locked by a butthurt lemming.

Lems getting owned :lol:

Poor lems :(kuraimen

Fcking love the sig.

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Poor lems :(NineTailedGoku

Omg, my sides:lol: Did you make that Gif?

Pete-B is the fellow cow artist behind this masterpiece :)
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#17 NineTailedGoku
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[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Poor lems :(kuraimen

Omg, my sides:lol: Did you make that Gif?

Pete-B is the fellow cow artist behind this masterpiece :)

Yeah, you guys had to execute your evil deranged twin brother :lol: Right clicked and saved:lol:

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#18 NineTailedGoku
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Sucks your other thread got locked by a butthurt lemming.

Lems getting owned :lol:

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Poor lems :(Speedzilla

Fcking love the sig.

I know, wasnt expecting that.

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] some thread from few days ago,someone posted about this and cows called him a troll and that's making sh!t up.

To be honest, I don't trust someone who's only response on Twitter was "The more you know". It just screams troll to me.

DF said he is legit,how he acts is a complete different thing.

He doesn't act like he's legit though. Thats my big problem with this, whether or not this info is correct is besides the point.
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2nd and 3rd place final round....FIGHT

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Poor lems :(kuraimen
Your sig :lol: amazing

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="clyde46"] To be honest, I don't trust someone who's only response on Twitter was "The more you know". It just screams troll to me.

DF said he is legit,how he acts is a complete different thing.

He doesn't act like he's legit though. Thats my big problem with this, whether or not this info is correct is besides the point.

i think being able to have access to hardware and information raised his ego a bit or he just do it for the sake of annoy people,but i don't really mind that as long he isn't fake and so far he has proven to be legit.
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[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Poor lems :(kuraimen

Omg, my sides:lol: Did you make that Gif?

Pete-B is the fellow cow artist behind this masterpiece :)

love the sig :lol:

 

Tessellation owned...again :lol:

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Elsewhere, most of the custom hardware works to ease the CPU burden, not to improve GPU performance, so those hoping for 'secret sauce' to overcome Orbis's theoretical graphics advantages are probably going to be disappointed.

LOL at Lems hoping for Wizard Piss to save them.

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#25 ShadowriverUB
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It all sounds that this gen will be more of a Software war then endless hardware power debate that we have last gen
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It will come down to; 1. Price 2. Appeal 3. Bang for your buck 4. Which system is more user friendly ie plays used games, allows the user to use other companies products it the most so you can upgrade for less, doesn't require a constant internet connection, backward compatable, free online etc. 

The one that has the most consumer appeal for all reasons will sell the most. 

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Wait a minute...so they offer the same specs? LMAO @ Sony fanboys claiming ownage. Pathetic as usual.
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Wait a minute...so they offer the same specs? LMAO @ Sony fanboys claiming ownage. Pathetic as usual.percech
LMFAO, you clearly didn't read the article. Enjoy your Entertainment Not-so-supercomputer Lems. Sony made the gaming machine!
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[QUOTE="percech"]Wait a minute...so they offer the same specs? LMAO @ Sony fanboys claiming ownage. Pathetic as usual.Shewgenja
LMFAO, you clearly didn't read the article. Enjoy your Entertainment Not-so-supercomputer Lems. Sony made the gaming machine!

OH GOD OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN
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you are almost as bad as phonemug
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It will come down to; 1. Price 2. Appeal 3. Bang for your buck 4. Which system is more user friendly ie plays used games, allows the user to use other companies products it the most so you can upgrade for less, doesn't require a constant internet connection, backward compatable, free online etc. 

The one that has the most consumer appeal for all reasons will sell the most. 

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All of that's beside the point bar maybe the band for your buck part. They might all be factors for which will sell better but as a gamer i don't care for that. It's going to come down to price, performance and games for me, everything else is a moot point since i'm buying it as a games console.
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#32 GarGx1
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Intresting article but it's still based on rumour. Until the actual system specs are officially released for both consoles we know nothing.

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It will come down to; 1. Price 2. Appeal 3. Bang for your buck 4. Which system is more user friendly ie plays used games, allows the user to use other companies products it the most so you can upgrade for less, doesn't require a constant internet connection, backward compatable, free online etc. The one that has the most consumer appeal for all reasons will sell the most. clr84651

Doesn't the Wii U have all of that?..... i'm pretty sure it ticks those boxes

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] DF said he is legit,how he acts is a complete different thing.Tessellation
He doesn't act like he's legit though. Thats my big problem with this, whether or not this info is correct is besides the point.

i think being able to have access to hardware and information raised his ego a bit or he just do it for the sake of annoy people,but i don't really mind that as long he isn't fake and so far he has proven to be legit.

Dude you're the new Sniper I swear.

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ps4 has blast processing! What does blast processing do? It makes you sexy.

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[QUOTE="clr84651"]It will come down to; 1. Price 2. Appeal 3. Bang for your buck 4. Which system is more user friendly ie plays used games, allows the user to use other companies products it the most so you can upgrade for less, doesn't require a constant internet connection, backward compatable, free online etc. The one that has the most consumer appeal for all reasons will sell the most. hanman9


Doesn't the Wii U have all of that?..... i'm pretty sure it ticks those boxes

:lol: i hope your being sarcastic. Wii u appeal? Bang for your buck :lol:

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so much butt hurt

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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Tessellation"] DF said he is legit,how he acts is a complete different thing.

He doesn't act like he's legit though. Thats my big problem with this, whether or not this info is correct is besides the point.

i think being able to have access to hardware and information raised his ego a bit or he just do it for the sake of annoy people,but i don't really mind that as long he isn't fake and so far he has proven to be legit.

He has been all over the place in fact he is even Ban on GA i think,and he made those comments and directed them at Neogaf which he tag as sony whores....:lol: Meltdown on superdae.?
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Both have an AMD 8 core CPU @1.6Ghz with 4MB of L2 cache.
They both have 800 MHz AMD GPUs and 6x BD-ROMs.

The only differences are that the Durango has more RAM and ESRAM, the Orbis has more memory bandwidth and shader cores.

All in all they are both pretty meh.

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Both have an AMD 8 core CPU @1.6Ghz with 4MB of L2 cache.
They both have 800 MHz AMD GPUs and 6x BD-ROMs.

The only differences are that the Durango has more RAM and ESRAM, the Orbis has more memory bandwidth and shader cores.

All in all they are both pretty meh.

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The gpu in the ps4 is better, and can do more at the same clockfrequenzy. Also, the RAM is faster, which is very important.
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In the end, it will come down to the games, which I'm sure the PS4 will prevail at.

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-spec-analysis-durango-vs-orbis?page=comments

Feb 20th couldnt come any sooner.:(

NineTailedGoku

From http://www.anandtech.com/show/4455/amds-graphics-core-next-preview-amd-architects-for-compute/5

Radeon HD 79x0/89x0-OEM has 6 memory controllers with each having 128KB L2 cache i.e. a total of 768 KB L2 cache.

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From http://www.anandtech.com/show/4455/amds-graphics-core-next-preview-amd-architects-for-compute/5

Radeon HD 79x0/89x0-OEM has 6 memory controllers with each having 128KB L2 cache i.e. a total of 768 KB L2 cache.

 

Durango's 512KB L2 cache looks to be corresponding to four memory controllers type GCN e.g. AMD FirePro W5000 i.e. Pitcairn with 12 CU and 32 ROPs.

16 ROPs with 512 KB L2 cache doesn't quite jive with the current known GCN config.

 

Low end GCN like 7770 has 64 KB L2 cache per memory controller i.e. a total of 128KB L2 cache.

 

Durango's GCN is not AMD Cape Verde i.e. GpGPU performance should be similar AMD FirePro W5000 instead of AMD Radeon HD 7770.

 

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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="clyde46"] He doesn't act like he's legit though. Thats my big problem with this, whether or not this info is correct is besides the point.

i think being able to have access to hardware and information raised his ego a bit or he just do it for the sake of annoy people,but i don't really mind that as long he isn't fake and so far he has proven to be legit.

He has been all over the place in fact he is even Ban on GA i think,and he made those comments and directed them at Neogaf which he tag as sony whores....:lol: Meltdown on superdae.?

At least he has more credibility than you and DF confirms that.
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

From http://www.anandtech.com/show/4455/amds-graphics-core-next-preview-amd-architects-for-compute/5

Radeon HD 79x0/89x0-OEM has 6 memory controllers with each having 128KB L2 cache i.e. a total of 768 KB L2 cache.

Durango's 512KB L2 cache looks to be corresponding to four memory controllers type GCN e.g. AMD FirePro W5000 i.e. Pitcairn with 12 CU and 32 ROPs.

16 ROPs with 512 KB L2 cache doesn't quite jive with the current known GCN config.

Low end GCN like 7770 has 64 KB L2 cache per memory controller i.e. a total of 128KB L2 cache.

Durango's GCN is not AMD Cape Verde i.e. GpGPU performance should be similar AMD FirePro W5000 instead of AMD Radeon HD 7770.

lundy86_4

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Sorry, Anandtech made a mistake on 64KB L2 cache per memory controller.

From http://www.behardware.com/articles/855-2/review-amd-radeon-hd-7750-and-hd-7770-xfx-black-super-oc-edition.html

Cape Verde actually has 512 KB L2 cache i.e. 256 KB L2 cache per memory controller.

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

From http://www.anandtech.com/show/4455/amds-graphics-core-next-preview-amd-architects-for-compute/5

Radeon HD 79x0/89x0-OEM has 6 memory controllers with each having 128KB L2 cache i.e. a total of 768 KB L2 cache.

 

Durango's 512KB L2 cache looks to be corresponding to four memory controllers type GCN e.g. AMD FirePro W5000 i.e. Pitcairn with 12 CU and 32 ROPs.

16 ROPs with 512 KB L2 cache doesn't quite jive with the current known GCN config.

 

Low end GCN like 7770 has 64 KB L2 cache per memory controller i.e. a total of 128KB L2 cache.

 

Durango's GCN is not AMD Cape Verde i.e. GpGPU performance should be similar AMD FirePro W5000 instead of AMD Radeon HD 7770.

 

ronvalencia

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Sorry, Anandtech made a mistake on 64KB L2 cache per memory controller.

From http://www.behardware.com/articles/855-2/review-amd-radeon-hd-7750-and-hd-7770-xfx-black-super-oc-edition.html

Cape Verde actually has 512 KB L2 cache i.e. 256 KB L2 cache per memory controller.

 

Serously whats the point of your post?

edit: considering that the GPU is attached to a seperate memory controller and doesn't have its own bank, I doubt it has memory controllers built in.  At least in a traditional GPU sense, also note that the devkits have NVIDIA cards for durango

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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

From http://www.anandtech.com/show/4455/amds-graphics-core-next-preview-amd-architects-for-compute/5

Radeon HD 79x0/89x0-OEM has 6 memory controllers with each having 128KB L2 cache i.e. a total of 768 KB L2 cache.

Durango's 512KB L2 cache looks to be corresponding to four memory controllers type GCN e.g. AMD FirePro W5000 i.e. Pitcairn with 12 CU and 32 ROPs.

16 ROPs with 512 KB L2 cache doesn't quite jive with the current known GCN config.

Low end GCN like 7770 has 64 KB L2 cache per memory controller i.e. a total of 128KB L2 cache.

Durango's GCN is not AMD Cape Verde i.e. GpGPU performance should be similar AMD FirePro W5000 instead of AMD Radeon HD 7770.

ronvalencia

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Sorry, Anandtech made a mistake on 64KB L2 cache per memory controller.

From http://www.behardware.com/articles/855-2/review-amd-radeon-hd-7750-and-hd-7770-xfx-black-super-oc-edition.html

Cape Verde actually has 512 KB L2 cache i.e. 256 KB L2 cache per memory controller.

Ahahahahaha :lol:
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In laymans terms, they are both weightlifters right?

except the orbis can lift twice as much as Lolango.

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#49 YoYo278
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-spec-analysis-durango-vs-orbis?page=comments

Feb 20th couldnt come any sooner.:(

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#50 StrongBlackVine
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In laymans terms, they are both weightlifters right?

except the orbis can lift twice as much as Lolango.

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In layman's term Durango is casual trash that you can scream at hop and in front of..