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#1 -ArchAngeL-777-
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other than COD of course lol. Maybe even overtake that. This looks better and better with every information leak...shot to the top of my most wanted list in 2012

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/122/1221463p1.html

Playstation Blog got some good stuff too on how massive the leveling system is and how long it should take to level up...plus Mechs coming!!

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/03/27/dust-514-five-things-we-learned-at-eve-online-fan-fest/

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#2 DualShockFore
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And it's only on the PS3.
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#3 DarkLink77
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Or, you know, Halo, or Call of Duty, or the new Medal of Honor, and things like that.

You know, the games that are pretty much guarunteed to sell and score better? Yeah.

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Or, you know, Halo, or Call of Duty, or the new Medal of Honor, and things like that.

You know, the games that are pretty much guarunteed to sell and score better? Yeah.

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No.
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Cool concept. That's about as far as it goes for me.
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Then Planetside 2 comes out and mops the floor with Dust 514.

64 player matches with some interaction from the guys in EVE or 1500+ player matches over 80km battlefields on a 6000 man server.

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#7 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Or, you know, Halo, or Call of Duty, or the new Medal of Honor, and things like that.

You know, the games that are pretty much guarunteed to sell and score better? Yeah.

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No.

What a compelling argument. :roll:
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#8 DarkLink77
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Then Planetside 2 comes out and mops the floor with Dust 514.

64 player matches with some interaction from the guys in EVE or 1500+ player matches over 80km battlefields on a 6000 man server.

Wasdie
Ah, yes, the "It has more players, so it'll be better!" argument. :roll:
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#9 Nike_Air
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A lot of people in my MAG clan are interested in this. I'll give it a shot when it comes out.

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Doubtful, highly doubtful.
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#11 -ArchAngeL-777-
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Then Planetside 2 comes out and mops the floor with Dust 514.

64 player matches with some interaction from the guys in EVE or 1500+ player matches over 80km battlefields on a 6000 man server.

DarkLink77
Ah, yes, the "It has more players, so it'll be better!" argument. :roll:

Yeah that remains to be seen. MAG of course boasted 256 players, but too many people refused to use mics. It broke down communication completely which is crucial in that game. The maps weren't too hot either...especially SVER ones. So no, more players doesnt necessarily mean better.
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#12 -ArchAngeL-777-
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A lot of people in my MAG clan are interested in this. I'll give it a shot when it comes out.

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Yeah I know a lot of MAG people interested in this too. It should be a natural progressing for those larger clans. I haven't heard what the clan support is like though.
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#13 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Then Planetside 2 comes out and mops the floor with Dust 514.

64 player matches with some interaction from the guys in EVE or 1500+ player matches over 80km battlefields on a 6000 man server.

DarkLink77

Ah, yes, the "It has more players, so it'll be better!" argument. :roll:

Well, I didn't think I had to mention it's made by an extremely experienced FPS team who built a custom engine catered for MMOs.

Apparently I do.

Planetside 2's gameplay is pretty much a much more refined version of the original. They scrapped the crappy cone of fire and hitscan for projectile weapons and iron sights, they added a physics engine for all of the vehicles, dynamic day and night cycles that have a massive impact on world lighting requiring players to use different tactics in the different light, the map is now a large hex-based grid where each single grid section is tactically important making you fight for more than just chokepoints.

I already mentioned the scale of the game and the size of the map...

I could go on and on. It's going to be the far superior game and I think it will end up being the most talked about when it finally launches. It's going to be a revolution for FPSs.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Or, you know, Halo, or Call of Duty, or the new Medal of Honor, and things like that.

You know, the games that are pretty much guarunteed to sell and score better? Yeah.

Slashkice

They should sell better, considering Dust is F2P :p

Well, sh!t. No wonder it looks so underwhelming.
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#16 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Then Planetside 2 comes out and mops the floor with Dust 514.

64 player matches with some interaction from the guys in EVE or 1500+ player matches over 80km battlefields on a 6000 man server.

Wasdie

Ah, yes, the "It has more players, so it'll be better!" argument. :roll:

Well, I didn't think I had to mention it's made by an extremely experienced FPS team who built a custom engine catered for MMOs.

Apparently I do.

Planetside 2's gameplay is pretty much a much more refined version of the original. They scrapped the crappy cone of fire and hitscan for projectile weapons and iron sights, they added a physics engine for all of the vehicles, dynamic day and night cycles that have a massive impact on world lighting requiring players to use different tactics in the different light, the map is now a large hex-based grid where each single grid section is tactically important making you fight for more than just chokepoints.

I already mentioned the scale of the game and the size of the map...

I could go on and on. It's going to be the far superior game and I think it will end up being the most talked about when it finally launches. It's going to be a revolution for FPSs.

I'd be willing to bet you'll be disappointed inside of a month, Wasdie.
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#17 -ArchAngeL-777-
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Or, you know, Halo, or Call of Duty, or the new Medal of Honor, and things like that.

You know, the games that are pretty much guarunteed to sell and score better? Yeah.

Slashkice

They should sell better, considering Dust is F2P :p

lol yeah good point. Sales may not be the best measure. They might still make their money though. F2P MMO's tend to do very well with micro transactions. They end up making more money than if they were subscription based.
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Then Planetside 2 comes out and mops the floor with Dust 514.

64 player matches with some interaction from the guys in EVE or 1500+ player matches over 80km battlefields on a 6000 man server.

-ArchAngeL-777-

Ah, yes, the "It has more players, so it'll be better!" argument. :roll:

Yeah that remains to be seen. MAG of course boasted 256 players, but too many people refused to use mics. It broke down communication completely which is crucial in that game. The maps weren't too hot either...especially SVER ones. So no, more players doesnt necessarily mean better.

Well Planetside 2 has built in VoiP, a built in command structure, outfights (just like guilds) that can work together, and has a playerbase of highly coordinated and highly motivated gamers.

The maps are also much more spread out. They aren't just 3-4 linear paths to a large objective with obstacles in the way, they are open and sprawling which encourage large amounts of tactics.

In Planeside 1 you would often see clashes of 30-40 tanks while planes buzzed around overhead and infantry fought all around them. Each side was incredibly coordinated. They would draw their resources from a pool so it wasn't just a spamfest of units. Each unit you killed had a startegic value that would hurt the enemy in some way. Each time you died it woudl hurt your side in some way.

What I find really neat is how engineers can build turrets and dynamic cover anywhere in the world. Essentially you can set up your own forward outposts away from the base and fight from. Of course, all of this requires the players to have leveled up and unlocked this stuff.

It's going to be excellent. Dust 514 doesn't have much to stand on against Planetside 2 other than the fact it's on the PS3 and nothing like it has really been done before. That's not really a recepie for success either.

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Game sounds interesting and I'll download it since it's free. Having said that Planetside 2 look significantly better.
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#20 Wasdie  Moderator
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Game sounds interesting and I'll download it since it's free. Having said that Planetside 2 look significantly better. KC_Hokie

I don't understand why they don't also have a PC version. It would make the most sense since the game is free to play and their fanbase is already on the PC.

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Dust 514 looks nice and I will give it a look when it comes to the PC,but Planetside 2 looks way better than it though.

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#22 dercoo
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Sounds like MAG round 2(loved MAG)

If they can just nail the gameplay this could be a really awesome game (especially for a F2P)

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Game sounds interesting and I'll download it since it's free. Having said that Planetside 2 look significantly better. Wasdie

I don't understand why they don't also have a PC version. It would make the most sense since the game is free to play and their fanbase is already on the PC.

I think it would have gone to PC had Sony not decided to pay CCP to make it PS3 exclusive for a certain time period. CCP was in serious financial trouble last year so they were desperate. And Sony suggested Planetside 2 would come to PS3 as well a few years..so DUST 514 was considered a good replacement.
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When a developer goes directly from a space commerce MMO to a first-person shooter for their second-ever project, I'm going to assume the shooter is bad until some concrete reports say otherwise.
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#25 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Game sounds interesting and I'll download it since it's free. Having said that Planetside 2 look significantly better. KC_Hokie

I don't understand why they don't also have a PC version. It would make the most sense since the game is free to play and their fanbase is already on the PC.

I think it would have gone to PC had Sony not decided to pay CCP to make it PS3 exclusive for a certain time period. CCP was in serious financial trouble last year so they were desperate. And Sony suggested Planetside 2 would come to PS3 as well a few years..so DUST 514 was considered a good replacement.

Well the guys making Planetside 2 say that right now there is absolutly no console verison in the works.

I'm not saying it *couldn't* happen. There is nothing in that game you couldn't do with a controller. The game even supports in-game VoiP already so you would just have to redo the menus.

Honestly it would be logical if these new F2P games made it to the consoles. It's just the consoles online network does not allow for quick updates and is a major pain for online games.

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#26 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I don't understand why they don't also have a PC version. It would make the most sense since the game is free to play and their fanbase is already on the PC.

Wasdie

I think it would have gone to PC had Sony not decided to pay CCP to make it PS3 exclusive for a certain time period. CCP was in serious financial trouble last year so they were desperate. And Sony suggested Planetside 2 would come to PS3 as well a few years..so DUST 514 was considered a good replacement.

Well the guys making Planetside 2 say that right now there is absolutly no console verison in the works.

I'm not saying it *couldn't* happen. There is nothing in that game you couldn't do with a controller. The game even supports in-game VoiP already so you would just have to redo the menus.

Honestly it would be logical if these new F2P games made it to the consoles. It's just the consoles online network does not allow for quick updates and is a major pain for online games.

Yea..Planetside 2 was suggested for the PS3 roughly two years ago. Then last year they realized the PS3 couldn't handle it. That's when Sony made the deal with CCP to make the game PS3 exclusive. CCP was in serious financial shape so the timing worked well for them.
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The play station 3 game console manufactured by Sony is in no doubt one of the most exciting and most interesting video game console worldwide and its games like these that drive home that point.
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I don't understand why they don't also have a PC version. It would make the most sense since the game is free to play and their fanbase is already on the PC.

Wasdie

I think it would have gone to PC had Sony not decided to pay CCP to make it PS3 exclusive for a certain time period. CCP was in serious financial trouble last year so they were desperate. And Sony suggested Planetside 2 would come to PS3 as well a few years..so DUST 514 was considered a good replacement.

Well the guys making Planetside 2 say that right now there is absolutly no console verison in the works.

I'm not saying it *couldn't* happen. There is nothing in that game you couldn't do with a controller. The game even supports in-game VoiP already so you would just have to redo the menus.

Honestly it would be logical if these new F2P games made it to the consoles. It's just the consoles online network does not allow for quick updates and is a major pain for online games.

not to mention Xbox Live totally dorks up the payment model. PSN being free allows Sony to do more projects like this, connectivity to steam, DCUO, etc.
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It will flop in "sales" if it doesn't come out on PC.

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#30 KC_Hokie
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It will flop in sales if it doesn't come out on PC.

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It will come to the PC eventually. It's a PS3 timed exclusive for a time.
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#31 -ArchAngeL-777-
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[QUOTE="hoola"]

It will flop in sales if it doesn't come out on PC.

KC_Hokie
It will come to the PC eventually. It's a PS3 timed exclusive for a time.

Do you know how long? I wonder if the PC and PS3 players will be on totally separate servers like DCUO.
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#32 KC_Hokie
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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="hoola"]

It will flop in sales if it doesn't come out on PC.

-ArchAngeL-777-
It will come to the PC eventually. It's a PS3 timed exclusive for a time.

Do you know how long? I wonder if the PC and PS3 players will be on totally separate servers like DCUO.

No clue how long. The CCP guys on twitter said it will eventually come to PC. No idea about servers either.
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Agreed. No shooter is gonna come close to Dust 514 and will cause much jelly.
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#34 KC_Hokie
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There's another really cool looking MMO shooter coming this year called Defiance. And of course Planetside 2, Tribes, etc.
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Hopefully this will be as good as MAG
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It won't. Call of Duty haters and lovers will spam the forums, when the new game gets announced.

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[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Or, you know, Halo, or Call of Duty, or the new Medal of Honor, and things like that.

You know, the games that are pretty much guarunteed to sell and score better? Yeah.

DarkLink77

They should sell better, considering Dust is F2P :p

Well, sh!t. No wonder it looks so underwhelming.

So you couldn't even be bothered to click on the links, and see that the game was described as F2P in the headline before commenting? And you expect people to value your opinion when you haven't even bothered to read the previews? Like anyone cares if a game looks underwhelming to a troll who only showed up to stir the pot and bring up Halo and COD, without even glancing at the previews. Pathetic.
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#38 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Slashkice"]

They should sell better, considering Dust is F2P :p

hbk7137

Well, sh!t. No wonder it looks so underwhelming.

So you couldn't even be bothered to click on the links, and see that the game was described as F2P in the headline before commenting? And you expect people to value your opinion when you haven't even bothered to read the previews? Like anyone cares if a game looks underwhelming to a troll who only showed up to stir the pot and bring up Halo and COD, without even glancing at the previews. Pathetic.

I've read that it was F2P before, it just slipped my mind. For some reason, I thought it still had a $15 dollar buy in that they were talking about for a while. And I've seen plenty of previews on the game. It doesn't impress me.

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#39 TheGrudge13
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i think the MAG community will like it but nothing more
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#40 JohnF111
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To be honest i hope it's a great game, i'd like to see more games that connect to a game universe to provide gameplay on a different level. One of the reasons why Carrier Command is on my top 10 most anticipated titles. This being another of them.
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#41 mikeyMKII
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Too niche of a shooter for PS3 I think.

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#42 StrongDeadlift
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If by "everyone" you mean pretty much NOBODY outside of the forums, and even WITHIN the forums discussion/care will be equally miniscule...

then yes........"everyone" will be talking about Dust514 :lol:

Seriously, Halo 4, Call of Duty Iron Wolf, Medal of Honor, etc....

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#43 Vari3ty
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I don't buy the bigger = better argument. Maybe it's just my previous experience from playing MAG, but there reaches a point when there's just too many players.

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#44 kingjazziephiz
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i'm not going to lie, the idea behind this game is awesome.
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#45 ultraking
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Between Starhawk and Dust514 , ill get my fill of awesome space shooters
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#46 superapo
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Ummmmmm no.

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#47 ShadowMoses900
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Not too interested, I know next to nothing about this game. It doesn't look all that interesting honestly, there are already a bunch of MP games out now and more coming out down the line, I don't see how this game is going to stand out from the crowd.

Halo 4 and COD are going to be the most talked about FPS games this year without a doubt. On the Sony front I don't know why they arn't marketing Star Hawk more, it's actually a very fun online game based off the Beta so far. It has alot of potential to be great, I just hope it has a good SP as well.

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This won't overtake CoD. Lets be real here.
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You used future and present tense in your topic title. I am now confused. D:

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#50 Cherokee_Jack
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You used future and present tense in your topic title. I am now confused. D:

Stevo_the_gamer
"Dust 514 will be the shooter everyone will be talking about" doesn't sound right.